Gravity, its everywhere.

From what I understand he's basing his theory on the fact that you can't be 100% sure of anything...

I have argued this before. 
Carbon here is the same as carbon 5,000,000,000 lightyears away. 

So your basing your theory on magical dirt that hasn't been found yet? 

No.

Quote from: sokarul on July 11, 2007, 01:36:23 PM

So your basing your theory on magical dirt that hasn't been found yet? 

No.

So I say again, gravitation disproves a flat earth. 

So I say again, gravitation disproves a flat earth. 

No, it sure doesn't.  The FE would also have gravitation.

Quote from: sokarul on July 11, 2007, 02:01:04 PM

So I say again, gravitation disproves a flat earth. 

No, it sure doesn't.  The FE would also have gravitation.

no, it sure does.  Mass bends spacetime. 

The FE still has gravitation.

The FE still has gravitation.

Yea because mass bends spacetime.  Its just that if the earth was flat, no one would be on it. 

 

Play all the word games you want.  I have nothing to do today. 

The FE would have a gravitational field that didn't vary.

What about the face that the Earth doesn't have a uniform gravitational field? It gets weaker the higher you go, as well the strength varies in accordance with the density of the underlying layers. This indicates that it is very likely that gravitation, as in mass bends spacetime, which would be most likely correct for the Earth. Is this not an indication that the Flat Earth is not correct? Finally, meaning that 'would' is very appropriate seeing as it isn't supported by evidence.   

Unless the FE was standing still, there would be no gravitation.

The correlation between altitude and gravitation couldn't be explained by the combination of acceleration and gravitation. However, if the Earth was standing still, the Earth would form a sphere over time.

You lose.

And also, all mass bends spacetime. Don't give me any BS about how we have not tested all the matter in the 'verse. The same carbon that exists in this pencil is the same type of carbon that is in the next galaxy over, and the one next to that, and the one next to that.

It pains me to do it but I must agree with the engineer on this (sort of) there is no way that we can assume that anything will be the same on the other side of the universe, however the does not dicredit your point entirely, on a flat earth there would be variations of gravity due to gravitation but it would be backwards. For example you would actually weigh more at the top of mount everest due to the fact that there is more mass under you so the effects of gravitation would be larger.

Quote from: CommonCents on July 11, 2007, 01:39:21 PM

From what I understand he's basing his theory on the fact that you can't be 100% sure of anything...

I have argued this before. 
Carbon here is the same as carbon 5,000,000,000 lightyears away. 

O...K...and carbon's the only thing in the universe?    There could be materials elsewhere in the Universe that don't exist on the little bit of Earth we have explored.

So in RE, there is a gravity vector towards the core from China, U.S., Antarctica, and every other point on earth. There are an infinite number of these gravity vectors that exert a force on each of us. Since there is a vector in every possible direction, and they are all of equal magnitude, they cancel out. We all procede to float into space.


...great model there guys.

Wrong, gravity are acceleration vectors.  When these vectors interact with objects of mass a force occurs that interacts oppositely albeit same magnitude with a reactionary force normal to the ground.

Quote from: narcberry on July 10, 2007, 03:14:47 PM

So in RE, there is a gravity vector towards the core from China, U.S., Antarctica, and every other point on earth. There are an infinite number of these gravity vectors that exert a force on each of us. Since there is a vector in every possible direction, and they are all of equal magnitude, they cancel out. We all procede to float into space.


...great model there guys.

Wrong, gravity are acceleration vectors.  When these vectors interact with objects of mass a force occurs that interacts oppositely albeit same magnitude with a reactionary force normal to the ground.

And what if you had one of these vectors in every direction? What is your sum acceleration?

Quote from: The Kommunist on July 12, 2007, 08:16:35 AM

Quote from: narcberry on July 10, 2007, 03:14:47 PM

So in RE, there is a gravity vector towards the core from China, U.S., Antarctica, and every other point on earth. There are an infinite number of these gravity vectors that exert a force on each of us. Since there is a vector in every possible direction, and they are all of equal magnitude, they cancel out. We all procede to float into space.


...great model there guys.

Wrong, gravity are acceleration vectors.  When these vectors interact with objects of mass a force occurs that interacts oppositely albeit same magnitude with a reactionary force normal to the ground.

And what if you had one of these vectors in every direction? What is your sum acceleration?

In order for that to work... you'd have to be at the center of the Earth... so I doubt you'd be moving. From any given point on the outside of the Earth (were we are) there is only a single direction... towards the earth.

Edit: Were you responding to every thread you've ever made in some lame Narcberry spam thing?

That's impossible.

Yeah, Narcster spams too much to keep all of those threads going forever.

Yeah, Narcster spams too much to keep all of those threads going forever.

That, but mostly because most of my threads are locked.

So in RE, there is a gravity vector towards the core from China, U.S., Antarctica, and every other point on earth. There are an infinite number of these gravity vectors that exert a force on each of us. Since there is a vector in every possible direction, and they are all of equal magnitude, they cancel out. We all procede to float into space.


...great model there guys.

According to RE, gravity vectors only cancel out at the point of center mass of the system.

edit - woops didn't know I stole from Marinade

Quote from: Master Yoda on September 06, 2007, 12:37:12 PM

Yeah, Narcster spams too much to keep all of those threads going forever.

That, but mostly because most of my threads are locked.

Which explains your true value.

Quote from: Master Yoda on September 06, 2007, 12:37:12 PM

Yeah, Narcster spams too much to keep all of those threads going forever.

That, but mostly because most of my threads are locked.

Fair point

So in RE, there is a gravity vector towards the core from China, U.S., Antarctica, and every other point on earth. There are an infinite number of these gravity vectors that exert a force on each of us. Since there is a vector in every possible direction, and they are all of equal magnitude, they cancel out. We all procede to float into space.


...great model there guys.

Haha. I got a chuckle out of this. I'm thinking more and more that you're just a troll. Tom Bishop I'm not so sure about.

Quote from: Smarticus on July 10, 2007, 03:14:47 PM

So in RE, there is a gravity vector towards the core from China, U.S., Antarctica, and every other point on earth. There are an infinite number of these gravity vectors that exert a force on each of us. Since there is a vector in every possible direction, and they are all of equal magnitude, they cancel out. We all procede to float into space.


...great model there guys.

Haha. I got a chuckle out of this. I'm thinking more and more that you're just a troll. Tom Bishop I'm not so sure about.

I recommend that you treat both like I do: as a sport until someone worthy comes along.

I probably should. It probably won't be fun knocking them down after a while, and I'm sure they'll keep the same arguments anyway.

I probably should. It probably won't be fun knocking them down after a while, and I'm sure they'll keep the same arguments anyway.

We've taken the time and made the effort to document many of TomB's standard "cut-and-paste" arguments and responses in the RE Primer.

So is Tom B just a troll too? Seems like several people here believe he's for real.

So is Tom B just a troll too? Seems like several people here believe he's for real.

I don't fully understand TomB's motivation. My best guess is that he's a religious nut with a professional education. He's so invested in the Bible that he has to believe that the Earth is flat. He posts here to suspend his rational mind.

Yeah he doesn't really seem to be playing the typical troll cards to me.