Free Energy Revealed

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Free Energy Revealed
« on: July 04, 2007, 11:58:02 AM »
Free energy, despite skepticism, has been proven by Nikola Tesla and Joseph Newman as well as otherts to exist (e.g. Newman's demonstrations, Tesla's Death RAy).  The overall factor that prevents the scientific community from accepting the existence of free energy is friction.  However, friction at certain infinitesimal points of masses, imitate a very brief dense point not unlike the Big Bang much much smaller.  And we all know that such dense collisions result in the creation of matter and antimatter seemingly out of thin air (source: CERN experiment featured in Dan Brown's Angels and Demons).  However, the amount created in useless for future scientific endevours and practicality.

Other than the above experiment, energy is free over large periods of time due to constant renewal (e.g. condensation/evaporation).  Though energy from stars is emitted and lost from that localized system it is added to many other systems eventually returning to the source of origin, which is shown by the Universe contracting after it has been expanding the past 8 Billion years.
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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2007, 12:12:43 PM »
Reagan's Star Wars technology involves a modified Tesla Death Ray.
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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2007, 12:32:41 PM »
A very interesting claim, it will be interesting to see if it actually works.

Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2007, 03:54:53 PM »
Wtf are you talking about?  Tesla never completed the death ray.

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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 09:44:10 AM »
Fusion will be mankind first free energy.  They just have to get it to work at a lower temperature. 
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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 12:42:16 PM »
Fusion will be mankind first free energy.  They just have to get it to work at a lower temperature. 

True.  Just for it to work efficiently, the temperature must exceed past that of the Sun's core.
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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 04:40:15 PM »
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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 05:03:35 PM »
I think that the best bet will be utilizing pockets of sub-space in the form a "pseudo-battery".

I watch too much Stargate, I know. But hey, it's all based on real life ideas, theories, and principles.

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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2007, 10:16:58 PM »
I think that the best bet will be utilizing pockets of sub-space in the form a "pseudo-battery".

I watch too much Stargate, I know. But hey, it's all based on real life ideas, theories, and principles.

But don't make the batteries too big or you'll make exotic particles and kill alternate realities. (i watch WAY too much stargate.)


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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2007, 09:55:47 AM »
I think that the best bet will be utilizing pockets of sub-space in the form a "pseudo-battery".

I watch too much Stargate, I know. But hey, it's all based on real life ideas, theories, and principles.

But don't make the batteries too big or you'll make exotic particles and kill alternate realities. (i watch WAY too much stargate.)

Zero-Point Modules eliminate this threat. Project Arcturus, if you remember, set out to solve that. That's where the exotic particles come in. They were forming on the wrong side of the matter stream bridge.

If you remember in the show, McKay's sister developed a formula that solved the problem, by keeping the exotic particles on the other side of the bridge. They calculated that, based on the multiverse theorum, connecting to an inhabited universe was an extremely small chance (yet we all know that these extremely small chances seem greater anyway in the show), and they had to shut down the project, which fully depleted the Zero-Point Module. I figure it would take quite a few Z.P.M.'s to get it right, but they don't have access to it.

A side note, I know this is all sci-fi, but it is, again, all based on real life science. We just don't have the technology to do any of this yet. Kinda sucks when you don't have a super-advanced race to learn from. :(
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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2007, 10:14:23 AM »
What does free energy mean?

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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2007, 10:23:45 AM »
Wtf are you talking about?  Tesla never completed the death ray.

http://davidszondy.com/future/tesla/teslaray03.jpg

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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2007, 10:46:24 AM »
What does free energy mean?

Free energy is also called Zero-point energy.

Zero point energy is present in all quantum mechanical systems (i.e. everything that uses energy and converts it to entropy). Zero point energy is the lowest amount of energy that such a quantum mechanical system can have. It is also commonly referred to as vacuum energy and remains when all matter is removed from a region of space. Since by definition zero point energy can never be depleted (a region of space can never have less than that amount), it is theoretically an unlimited and free energy source.

The energy is said to arise from various particles that spontaneously emerge, exist for fractions of a second, and are then annihilated by anti-particles. At very small distances (~10-35 meters) this particle/anti-particle turbulence is known as quantum foam, and it is theorized to be a remnant of the birth of the universe carried over to this day. (Also partially explained in the hypothesis is that not all matter in the universe is evenly distributed).

Despite the two particles annihilating each other, a small amount of energy is detectable (demonstrated by the Casimir effect). Because of the immensely small scales of time and size, as well as the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, the existence and subsequent annihilation of these particles does not violate the conservation of energy.
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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2007, 10:51:20 AM »
Do you believe that the Law of Conservation of energy is valid?

EDIT:

I think I should clarify what I wanted to ask:

Zero point energy is present in all quantum mechanical systems (i.e. everything that uses energy and converts it to entropy).

What does this mean?

Also:
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Zero point energy is the lowest amount of energy that such a quantum mechanical system can have.

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Because of the immensely small scales of time and size, as well as the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, the existence and subsequent annihilation of these particles does not violate the conservation of energy.

In the bolded text in 2) you implied that the Law of Conservation of energy is valid on time scales greater than those permitted by the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. This means that if we are to extract the zero point energy from any quantum system, the energy of this system must decrease.

However, in 1) you have defined the zero point energy as the energy of the system in its lowest (ground) state. Now, we know that quantum systems leap from one state to another. To what state is the quantum system going to leap if it is already in its ground state and its energy must decrease?
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Re: Free Energy Revealed
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2007, 02:07:29 PM »
I copied and pasted, genius.