Where is the edge of the earth?

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Re: Where is the edge of the earth?
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2006, 01:43:17 PM »
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Does anybody have any pictures of it, or do you need time to get on your computer and doctor one up?   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


The edge of the earth is the Bermuda Triangle.  That is why so many people have disappeared there.  I don't have a picture though.


Actually I believe very few people have disapeared in the bermuda triangle. barely disproportional to a similar sized area of sea.

Just to be pedantic of course, sorry this forum brings that out in people.

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« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2006, 02:42:22 PM »
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Actually I believe very few people have disapeared in the bermuda triangle. barely disproportional to a similar sized area of sea.

Just to be pedantic of course, sorry this forum brings that out in people.


Do you have any evidence to substantiate that claim?

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« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2006, 02:54:15 PM »
Read this about 3 months ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_triangle

well since I last read that it that big red warning stickers been slapped up there which rather undermines my position  :D.

re-reading the article it seems that "very few" was poor lexis, but "barely disproportional" seems valid, apologies.

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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2006, 09:54:19 AM »
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I'm wondering one more thing. If we fall off the edge of the earth, do we just keep falling?quote]
hmm let me think ohh yes, the universe it is made up of and infinite area with lots of objects most likely you would hit something so you wouldn't fall for eternity


This doesn't make sense to me either because everything falls at the same rate. Also, what would be pulling me downward?  

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In the same way that if the government gave you photos of magical Elves, which were analysed by experts who said that they weren't fakes, would you believe them?


Sure!  Of course, I've gotta laugh when the person taking the picture can't hold the stupid thing still and all you get is a blur.

Sorry, but I'm going to backtrack a bit here:

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Maybe because the last time I travelled thousands of miles by air and by sea, evaded the government's security force, climbed the sheer face of the ice wall, hiked across its vast, arid, airless, frozen surface, and peered out over the edge, I realized I had left the film for my camera in my other pants.

Or maybe it's just hard to get there?


If this actually happened, I have to question what the heck you were really doing.  Think about it.  If I was to keep travelling east until I reach Spain, for example, don't you think that customs would be stopping me somewhere along the way?  I don't think they would be stopping me because I might find the edge of the earth.  Also, I am curious about something else.  If the earth is flat NOW, then it was probably flat since the beginning of time.  What good would it do for our present government to jump in and deny that fact?  That would be like me gathering a bunch of my friends and visiting every zoo in the world, kidnapping giraffes, then trying to tell people that giraffes do not exist.  So you are basically saying that since the beginning of time, there were government agents out there keeping people from finding the edge of the earth.  Well, I don't know if you guys are Christians or not, but I don't recall the Bible mentioning that God created the heavens, the earth, Adam and Eve, and the secret government agent to prevent Adam and Eve from discovering the edge of the earth.
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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2006, 10:06:21 AM »
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This doesn't make sense to me either because everything falls at the same rate. Also, what would be pulling me downward?  

If you are standing next to a stationary car, and then the car drives off, is something pulling you backwards?

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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2006, 10:29:18 AM »
Quote from: "Joe_Mama"
If this actually happened, I have to question what the heck you were really doing.  Think about it.  If I was to keep travelling east until I reach Spain, for example, don't you think that customs would be stopping me somewhere along the way?


No, it hasn't actually happened: it was a hypothetical scenario.  How is your Spain story relevant of the dangers one faces when travelling to the ice wall?  Sounds like, well, basically the dumbest straw man argument ever, to me.

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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2006, 11:24:42 AM »
If it hasn't already been said (I bet it has), the "Flat Earth" is like this;


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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2006, 12:04:35 PM »
Nice picture but how do you draw a picture like that and save it to the internet.  You have to save it to some database on the internet or something in order to post it.  I wanna figure out how to post a picture that I draw on paint.
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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2006, 12:42:47 PM »
how bout http://imageshack.us ?

you dont need a database
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2006, 07:39:16 PM »
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If you are standing next to a stationary car, and then the car drives off, is something pulling you backwards?


What the heck?!  No!  I have no idea why you pulled that question out of your butt.  Those are two different forces.  It is a basic law of gravity that two items (assuming that one of them is not affected by more resistance than the other) will fall at the same rate.  Try it!  Drop a bowling ball and a golf ball off the side of a building at the same time and they will both hit the ground at the same time.  As for driving a car, you are dealing with inertia (unless you drive it off a cliff).  The earth, planets, stars, and some very large asteroids. generate gravity.  A car does not.  Unless that car happens to be the size of the moon.
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« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2006, 12:37:03 AM »
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What the heck?!  No!  I have no idea why you pulled that question out of your butt.  Those are two different forces.  It is a basic law of gravity that two items (assuming that one of them is not affected by more resistance than the other) will fall at the same rate.  Try it!  Drop a bowling ball and a golf ball off the side of a building *snip*


Yeah blah blah blah, we all know.  Turns out you're wrong as soon as you leave the Earth.  And furthermore if the Earth isn't pulling you at all, but merely zipping away from you, you're doubly wrong, and -- gee -- it's the same as the car scenario.

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As for driving a car, you are dealing with inertia


Fiddlesticks.  If the car isn't moving and then it is, that's acceleration, not inertia.  Note the similarity between "inertia" and "inert"; it's no coincidence.

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The earth, planets, stars, and some very large asteroids. generate gravity.  A car does not.


Survey says:  EEHHH.  Wrong again.  Acceleration is gravity.

byebye!

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« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2006, 06:30:53 AM »
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The earth, planets, stars, and some very large asteroids. generate gravity.  A car does not.


Survey says:  EEHHH.  Wrong again.  Acceleration is gravity.

byebye!

-Erasmus


Double wrong, because a car DOES generate gravity (according to RE thoery), just not a large amount of it.

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« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2006, 08:38:02 AM »
Quote from: "Joe_Mama"
What the heck?!  No!  I have no idea why you pulled that question out of your butt.  Those are two different forces.  It is a basic law of gravity that two items (assuming that one of them is not affected by more resistance than the other) will fall at the same rate.  Try it!  Drop a bowling ball and a golf ball off the side of a building at the same time and they will both hit the ground at the same time.  As for driving a car, you are dealing with inertia (unless you drive it off a cliff).  The earth, planets, stars, and some very large asteroids. generate gravity.  A car does not.  Unless that car happens to be the size of the moon.


Ok, let me try to simplify this for you; the flat earth theory states that gravity is caused by the earth accelerating upwards. Now we all know that to accelerate an object you need to apply an unbalanced force, correct? so the earth must have some sort of force applied to keep it accelerating, when you are standing on the earth that same force will apply to you, but if you step off of the earth then it will stop applying to you. If no unbalanced force is acting on you you will stop accelerating and begin moving at a constant speed, the speed you will be moving at is the speed the earth was moving at when you left it. The earth still has the force applied to it so it keeps accelerating past you.
Exactly the same thing that would happen if you were standing next to a car, and the car were to start accelerating away from you.
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« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2006, 09:58:07 AM »
EnragedPenguin,

Thank-you for trying your best to explain things better for me.  I'm not a rocket scientist and I never took physics.  I just remember basic things about gravity and inertia from Chemistry class back in the days.

HOWEVER, I'm still a little confused with what you are saying.  If we were constantly accelerating upwards, what is stopping us from hitting the sun.  Or the moon?  How about the stars?  Doesn't your webpage state that the stars are about 5 (sorry, I'm too lazy to go back and look) miles in diameter?  I'm just trying to picture this.  Let's say that the earth is like a plate hanging from a string level to the ground.  So you are saying that the entire room around me is excelerating upward?  If that was the case, wouldn't the room seem to change and get smaller?  The stars don't seem to change at all.  They all seem to go off into one direction over the seasons and reappear later on.  How does flat earth theory explain that?
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« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2006, 10:07:50 AM »
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HOWEVER, I'm still a little confused with what you are saying.  If we were constantly accelerating upwards, what is stopping us from hitting the sun.  Or the moon?  How about the stars?


I believe the rapid upward motion theory assumes that whatever is moving the Earth (most say dark matter) is also moving those entities you mentioned.


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« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2006, 01:54:23 PM »
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HOWEVER, I'm still a little confused with what you are saying.  If we were constantly accelerating upwards, what is stopping us from hitting the sun.  Or the moon?  How about the stars?


From the FAQ: "In the "accelerating upwards" model, the stars, sun and moon are also accelerating upwards."

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If that was the case, wouldn't the room seem to change and get smaller?


Not if it's accelerating at the same rate as us.

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The stars don't seem to change at all.  They all seem to go off into one direction over the seasons and reappear later on.  How does flat earth theory explain that?


I'm not one hundred percent sure about this one, but I'm guessing it's because the earth is supposed to be spinning.
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« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2006, 01:46:40 AM »
If the Earth is a flat disc accellerating at 9.8m/s/s, this would satisfy the feeling of gravity on the earth, or while standing on it, perhaps even while flying over it. but explain to me what keeps the atmosphere in place. Gasses would be pushed out of the way and around of an accellerating flat earth and the earth would soon punch through the atmosphere, leaving it behind for all of us to suffocate in the vaccuum of space. want to experiment? I'm a smoker so many times i've moved my hand through a cloud of smoke, what does it do? it does not get trapped on the accellerating side of my hand, much like a solid object like a ball would, it instead moves around and behind my hand fluidly. i'm doing it right now just to check, yep it still does exactly as i said. now if you are claiming that there is no vaccuum in space and it instead full of air, and the air is more dense closer to the ground because of the accelleration, you still run into the problem of the different layers of the atmosphere. explain why we do not have a consistantly fresh atmosphere, how are we able to pollute it? why does air pollution stay up there when if we were moving through a space of air the pollution would surely at some point run off the edge of the earth. the proposed icewall could not trap it above the earth because it's only 150ft high and most of this pollution is much higher then that, in the area of 50-90km above the earth (sorry for using standard and metric interchangably, but i didn't feel like converting, we all know a KM is much greater distance then 150 feet).

Also, if the earth is flat, why is there a north pole? the outer edge, or the icewall, could be explained because it is against the cold of space, counteracting the heat from the sun and keeping it frozen, but there is nothing to keep the heat from the sun from melting the north pole. here is a very crappy diagram of it:



the blue is the earth, the big white circle around it is the icewall, and the middle is the north pole. The black line is the equator and the yellow dot is the sun, the yellow circle around it is the area of the most direct sunlight. Now we all know that the north pole does not get direct sunlight, but the sunlight is does recieve, combined with the heated water and air that surrounds it, and the fact there is no cold space against it to counteract this, would melt it.

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« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2006, 02:44:23 AM »
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« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2006, 10:47:43 AM »
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Ouch, two of the worst things to have.


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« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2006, 11:01:03 AM »
But it makes things interesting.
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« Reply #50 on: April 28, 2006, 11:14:29 AM »
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Gasses would be pushed out of the way and around of an accellerating flat earth and the earth would soon punch through the atmosphere, leaving it behind for all of us to suffocate in the vaccuum of space.

In my mind, the disc of the flat earth is being pushed along by a type of "dark energy river" (whether or not it is dark energy really doesn't matter), which is forced to divert itself around the object. You can observe the phenomenon in the same experiment you conducted with the smoke, except in this case the atmosphere of the earth is not the smoke itself, but the absence of smoke which follows in the wake of your hand. Now of course the smoke is also drawn in behind your hand because of the relative vacuum created by your hand's movement, but in my model that relative vacuum represents the earth's atmosphere.

The "river" is pushing us from behind, but is also flowing around and past us, holding the atmosphere in. The sun, moon, and stars are all flowing in the same current, which explains their constant altitude.

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« Reply #51 on: April 28, 2006, 01:00:05 PM »
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Gasses would be pushed out of the way and around of an accellerating flat earth and the earth would soon punch through the atmosphere, leaving it behind for all of us to suffocate in the vaccuum of space.

In my mind, the disc of the flat earth is being pushed along by a type of "dark energy river" (whether or not it is dark energy really doesn't matter), which is forced to divert itself around the object. You can observe the phenomenon in the same experiment you conducted with the smoke, except in this case the atmosphere of the earth is not the smoke itself, but the absence of smoke which follows in the wake of your hand. Now of course the smoke is also drawn in behind your hand because of the relative vacuum created by your hand's movement, but in my model that relative vacuum represents the earth's atmosphere.

The "river" is pushing us from behind, but is also flowing around and past us, holding the atmosphere in. The sun, moon, and stars are all flowing in the same current, which explains their constant altitude.



What happened to the simple "tower of turtles"?

Come on, you know I'm not going to let you get away with that. Being in some kind of river that puts us and the atmosphere in a bubble of sorts may satisfy one problem, but it opens up a wealth of others. What evidence do we have of this river of energy?

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« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2006, 10:15:44 AM »
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Well, let me see.  The sun set over the horizon.  It actually dips BELOW horizontal level, then comes back up on the opposite side.  That's a hint.  The sun has to go SOMEWHERE.  Same thing with the moon and star patterns.  Let me see.  The lunar eclipse is another hint.  There are pictures of the earth from space:  http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~owen/CHPI/IMAGES/earth.html

I honestly don't see the point to the government trying to hide that the earth is flat either.  I do, however, see how you guys could be pulling our chains just to get people to visit your site.


ya thats caus we rotate around the sun IT IS PROVEN
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« Reply #53 on: May 02, 2006, 12:55:28 PM »
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ya thats caus we rotate around the sun IT IS PROVEN


Thank-you, Captain Obvious.
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« Reply #54 on: May 02, 2006, 01:46:46 PM »
Where is the end of the earth?

"UR MOM LAWL".

Come on, people. Why doesn't one of you try and go there? Hell, I've been half-way around the fucking world, and haven't seen jack shit.

Living at a coastal city, I can watch the destroyers come in. On the horizon, you see the tip of the masts- and then it slowly starts to appear.

Can anyone care to explain that?

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« Reply #55 on: May 02, 2006, 05:43:40 PM »
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FE use MS paint to show us what it might look like, RE use photographs to show what it DOES look like.

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« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2006, 05:47:24 PM »
Heh...
Funny, what conspiracy theorists with too much time can think up.

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« Reply #57 on: May 02, 2006, 05:48:26 PM »
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Does anybody have any pictures of it, or do you need time to get on your computer and doctor one up?   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


The edge of the earth is the Bermuda Triangle.  That is why so many people have disappeared there.  I don't have a picture though.


And yet the bermuda triangle is still one of the busiest shipping route in the world.

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« Reply #58 on: May 02, 2006, 05:57:03 PM »
whats causing the flat earth to continualy accellerate



my guess is 2 dorrito's on a stick.. i have a feeling others might agree

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« Reply #59 on: May 02, 2006, 06:21:09 PM »
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whats causing the flat earth to continualy accellerate



my guess is 2 dorrito's on a stick.. i have a feeling others might agree


Probably a bunch of rockets under the earth.