Earth Isn't Flat 2 (Proof Included)

How come you're still here?  

Don't take that the wrong way...I'm just surprised...

She was lying about leaving the whole time.  She was feeling kind of down, nobody loves her, etc, so she wanted to do something that would force everybody else to fawn attention on her.  It's kind of pathetic, really.  

I've never seen such birdwalking in my entire life....

Simple as this gentleman, based on the "FAQ" as well as the common sense of shapes.

Lets say theoretically the world is flat. You cannot circumnavigate a plane (flat surface). Correct? And the 150' Ice Wall (God forbid it stops a plane with its trembling heights), would impede further travel.

However this is not true, this is false. You can go AROUND a sphere. Yes there's a pun in what I just said, deal with it, I'm not here to do any favors for anyone.

DO AT HOME EXERIMENT!

Get a globe, and a peice of paper. Set them side by side. The Globe represents, RE, the paper FE. Slide your finger along the globe. Select any one point and move the globe around sliding your finger around it until you come back to the point you've selected (circumnavigation). Do the same thing on a sheet of paper. Once your finger has slid of the piece of paper your journey ends.

So when you guys decide to finally man up and go on that expedition to the End of the World. You give me a call. Until then accept the world is round and please do not procreate.

Ha. What a joke. No one is realigning those gyrocompasses.

Uh, that's what I said.  I really hope you can take those remedial classes.

I've never seen such birdwalking in my entire life....

Simple as this gentleman, based on the "FAQ" as well as the common sense of shapes.

Lets say theoretically the world is flat. You cannot circumnavigate a plane (flat surface). Correct? And the 150' Ice Wall (God forbid it stops a plane with its trembling heights), would impede further travel.

However this is not true, this is false. You can go AROUND a sphere. Yes there's a pun in what I just said, deal with it, I'm not here to do any favors for anyone.

DO AT HOME EXERIMENT!

Get a globe, and a peice of paper. Set them side by side. The Globe represents, RE, the paper FE. Slide your finger along the globe. Select any one point and move the globe around sliding your finger around it until you come back to the point you've selected (circumnavigation). Do the same thing on a sheet of paper. Once your finger has slid of the piece of paper your journey ends.

So when you guys decide to finally man up and go on that expedition to the End of the World. You give me a call. Until then accept the world is round and please do not procreate.

But you can circumnavigate (the known) part of the earth, so your idea is shit.

Okay 2nd test for those of you you who just dont get it:

Back to the paper, put a wall in the center of the paper you cannot go any further. CIRUCMNAVIGATION REQUIRES 360 degrees of travel. On a plane, you can only achieve 180. Circumnavigation is impossible.

Esplain how you can circle the Earth many times over without flying backwards?

By traveling along the equator in a big circle always facing East?

By traveling along the equator in a big circle always facing East?

What did you get a Masters in Stupidity at South Harmon Institute of Technology? Yes along the Equator, and I don't really give a flying Jew on a bicycle which way you go. Pick a direction and just head that way until you get to the same spot again. Use a GPS that doesn't work on a flat Earth to find your way back home.

He was answering your question, dumbass.  He put the question mark to emphasize the fact that it was an extremely stupid question.  On the flat earth, east and west are clockwise and counterclockwise (or vice versa, I'm not sure) because your compass will always be pointing towards the North Pole, which happens to be at the center of the earth.  So going due east or due west you're actually travelling in a circle around the North Pole, exactly like on a round earth.

I'm curious about in what way it is impossible to achieve "360 degrees of travel" on a plane.

CIRUCMNAVIGATION REQUIRES 360 degrees of travel. On a plane, you can only achieve 180. Circumnavigation is impossible.

360 degrees is just a circle, you do know that right?

Second, circumnavigation is defined as:

1.   to sail or fly around; make the circuit of by navigation: to circumnavigate the earth.
2.   to go or maneuver around: to circumnavigate the heavy downtown traffic.

The 2nd one can still apply so please don't say it's impossible, that's incorrect.

Quote from: Gin on June 12, 2007, 04:22:30 PM

How come you're still here?  

Don't take that the wrong way...I'm just surprised...

She was lying about leaving the whole time.  She was feeling kind of down, nobody loves her, etc, so she wanted to do something that would force everybody else to fawn attention on her.  It's kind of pathetic, really.  

Yeah.....

Jesus, you're an idiot (is that blasphemy?)

He's blasting the Jews, therefore he's blasting Jesus. In my book that makes him a blasphemer and a century behind on western idealogy.

Plus he's really stupid. Lets burn him Cash machine

Plus he's really stupid. Lets burn him Cash machine

LOL

How hard des a card fly out of my slot? Could I decapitate him?

I reckon you could

Okay 2nd test for those of you you who just dont get it:

Back to the paper, put a wall in the center of the paper you cannot go any further. CIRUCMNAVIGATION REQUIRES 360 degrees of travel. On a plane, you can only achieve 180. Circumnavigation is impossible.

Esplain how you can circle the Earth many times over without flying backwards?

Your second idea is shit.

Right then. Because I mean, I'm as liberal as they come- if you want to be anti sematic or a neo nazi that's fine, just don't expect me to be quiet and not tell you why you're wrong.

Flame on

SO why are you a skeptical hole in the wall?

Hey everyone your idea of circumnavigation works great for east-west. What about North-South? Any explanation for that. Particularly with the time to travel across the antarctic to come out the other side.

Or would you rather keep being assholes to someone who can't quite get his point across. He doesn't care about east-west either because that's easy to explain. Can you explain north-south circumnavigation at all?

Hey everyone your idea of circumnavigation works great for east-west. What about North-South? Any explanation for that. Particularly with the time to travel across the antarctic to come out the other side.

Or would you rather keep being assholes to someone who can't quite get his point across. He doesn't care about east-west either because that's easy to explain. Can you explain north-south circumnavigation at all?

Actually, as a REer, I disagree a little. With modern navigation, circumnavigation along the Equator would be impossible in FE, as the pilot and navigator would notice a need to turn to the north rather than keep a straight heading.

I believe that every FEer will say that you cannot circumnavigate over the South Pole as the South Pole doesn't exist. They will argue that anyone who claims to have done so must be one of the following: part of the conspiracy, fooled, or incompetent. As a rule whenever FE needs to claim conspiracy, and RE doesn't, to explain an observation, we consider it a victory for RE.

Well said. I didn't think of that. I guess we shall see if they can explain in a way other than conspiracy or the like. Though I have a feeling you are probably right.

Quote from: Marinade on June 13, 2007, 08:24:03 PM

Hey everyone your idea of circumnavigation works great for east-west. What about North-South? Any explanation for that. Particularly with the time to travel across the antarctic to come out the other side.

Or would you rather keep being assholes to someone who can't quite get his point across. He doesn't care about east-west either because that's easy to explain. Can you explain north-south circumnavigation at all?

Actually, as a REer, I disagree a little. With modern navigation, circumnavigation along the Equator would be impossible in FE, as the pilot and navigator would notice a need to turn to the north rather than keep a straight heading.

I disagree.  I think it's probably more difficult to be able to tell when you're going straight than you give it credit for being.

It is quite difficult to determine if you are going straight or turning without using instruments, when the turn is shallow or sustained.  This has been the downfall of many a pilot.

Quote from: Jesus89 on June 12, 2007, 06:55:06 PM

CIRUCMNAVIGATION REQUIRES 360 degrees of travel. On a plane, you can only achieve 180. Circumnavigation is impossible.

360 degrees is just a circle, you do know that right?

Second, circumnavigation is defined as:

1.   to sail or fly around; make the circuit of by navigation: to circumnavigate the earth.
2.   to go or maneuver around: to circumnavigate the heavy downtown traffic.

The 2nd one can still apply so please don't say it's impossible, that's incorrect.

Captain Grammar Nazi over here when did you become the Hilter Youth of Dictionary.com?

Quote from: Gulliver on June 13, 2007, 08:43:21 PM

Quote from: Marinade on June 13, 2007, 08:24:03 PM

Hey everyone your idea of circumnavigation works great for east-west. What about North-South? Any explanation for that. Particularly with the time to travel across the antarctic to come out the other side.

Or would you rather keep being assholes to someone who can't quite get his point across. He doesn't care about east-west either because that's easy to explain. Can you explain north-south circumnavigation at all?

Actually, as a REer, I disagree a little. With modern navigation, circumnavigation along the Equator would be impossible in FE, as the pilot and navigator would notice a need to turn to the north rather than keep a straight heading.

I disagree.  I think it's probably more difficult to be able to tell when you're going straight than you give it credit for being.

I think you should read up on modern navigational instruments, like NG gyrocompass I referenced. It's very hard to steer the wrong heading with it.

So anyone going to answer about north-south navigation then? or over the south pole?

So anyone going to answer about north-south navigation then? or over the south pole?

The "answer" to that is that nobody (on these forums) has personally witnessed such a trip, and any other evidence could be fabricated.  It's a common theme 'round these parts.

The only answer I've ever heard about North-South circumnavigation is that people are simply going around the rim of the Earth but don't realise they're travelling tens of thousands of miles more than they should be. Other than that the question is categorically ignored.

The only answer I've ever heard about North-South circumnavigation is that people are simply going around the rim of the Earth but don't realise they're travelling tens of thousands of miles more than they should be. Other than that the question is categorically ignored.

Well that just doesn't make sense.  It would be ice underneath the entire way.  You'd never cross the North pole.  Are you sure someone actually argued this?

I mean if you started at the North pole and wanted to curcumnavigate via the South you would have to fly directly south until you hit antarctica then follow the ice-wall all the way around back to the "top" and then travel back towards the North pole. And yes, as crazy as it sounds, someone did argue this believe it or not! It's basically the only way to do it in fact.