Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?

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sceptimatic

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #810 on: May 28, 2020, 12:35:46 PM »


Do you have to have personal access to everything in order to believe anything is real? For instance, you believe there is a dome over the earth and the sun is a projection from some crystals and such buried in a hole at the north pole. Have you personally had access to and verified those two physical things?
It doesn't matter what I believe.
You do not know for sure that nuclear bombs, exist.
You are happy to accept they do because you are happy to follow mass opinion that was garnered through storylines by so called authoritative people.

I know that there is a tremendous amount of evidence that nuclear weapons do exist. From eyewitnesses to video and everything inbetween.
There's a tremendous amount of evidence that Santa exists. Does he exist?


There is zero evidence for a dome over the earth and a sun as a projection from some carbonite crystals and such buried in a hole at the north pole. Yet, you believe that without ever having witnessed it yourself nor any other human ever having observed these things. So I don't understand your contradiction.
I'm not asking you to believe my thoughts. I'm being asked.......no.....told to believe in nuclear bombs by authority and peer pressure.


On the one hand you dismiss something that has mountains of evidence, yet on the other, fully embrace things that have zero evidence.
And yet you dismiss something that has mountains of evidence, in Santa. Right?

Have you ever applied your own logic to your belief systems? Like since you can't verify a dome and carbonite sun and no one else has in the history of humanity that perhaps they don't exist?
If you or anyone else doesn't believe they exist then they don't exist.
I certainly don't believe in a spinning ball we supposedly walk upon, so I have to try and work out what it is we are existing as part of and this is where I'm at.

When I start telling you it's official, then you can have a real go at me...but not before you prove the world you believe you're living on.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #811 on: May 28, 2020, 12:45:18 PM »
Sorry, intelligent, sound, normal people like me test new things in laboratories, etc. to avoid hurting people.
But they did test the bombs in laboratories.  It just so happens that those particular laboratories were remote locations to avoid hurting people, just like intelligent, sound, normal people would set up.

Only criminals do it otherwise in secret locations, etc.
The fact that we know that many of those tests occurred at Bikini Atoll and the Nevada test sites proves that they are not secret locations.  Again, there were plenty of tourists who went to Las Vegas to watch the test blasts, so it's kinda hard to keep a location like that a secret.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #812 on: May 28, 2020, 12:50:25 PM »


Do you have to have personal access to everything in order to believe anything is real? For instance, you believe there is a dome over the earth and the sun is a projection from some crystals and such buried in a hole at the north pole. Have you personally had access to and verified those two physical things?
It doesn't matter what I believe.
You do not know for sure that nuclear bombs, exist.
You are happy to accept they do because you are happy to follow mass opinion that was garnered through storylines by so called authoritative people.

I know that there is a tremendous amount of evidence that nuclear weapons do exist. From eyewitnesses to video and everything inbetween.
There's a tremendous amount of evidence that Santa exists. Does he exist?

Uh. Citation needed, for Santa.

Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #813 on: May 28, 2020, 12:53:25 PM »


Do you have to have personal access to everything in order to believe anything is real? For instance, you believe there is a dome over the earth and the sun is a projection from some crystals and such buried in a hole at the north pole. Have you personally had access to and verified those two physical things?
It doesn't matter what I believe.
You do not know for sure that nuclear bombs, exist.
You are happy to accept they do because you are happy to follow mass opinion that was garnered through storylines by so called authoritative people.

I know that there is a tremendous amount of evidence that nuclear weapons do exist. From eyewitnesses to video and everything inbetween.
There's a tremendous amount of evidence that Santa exists. Does he exist?


There is zero evidence for a dome over the earth and a sun as a projection from some carbonite crystals and such buried in a hole at the north pole. Yet, you believe that without ever having witnessed it yourself nor any other human ever having observed these things. So I don't understand your contradiction.
I'm not asking you to believe my thoughts. I'm being asked.......no.....told to believe in nuclear bombs by authority and peer pressure.


On the one hand you dismiss something that has mountains of evidence, yet on the other, fully embrace things that have zero evidence.
And yet you dismiss something that has mountains of evidence, in Santa. Right?

Have you ever applied your own logic to your belief systems? Like since you can't verify a dome and carbonite sun and no one else has in the history of humanity that perhaps they don't exist?
If you or anyone else doesn't believe they exist then they don't exist.
I certainly don't believe in a spinning ball we supposedly walk upon, so I have to try and work out what it is we are existing as part of and this is where I'm at.

When I start telling you it's official, then you can have a real go at me...but not before you prove the world you believe you're living on.

Well I'm was eyewitness to starfish prime, we that help you?
I was 12 at the time and saw the flash.
It was long enough to  cause the street lights to go out across the valley
then thy flickered back on.
The the universe has no obligation to makes sense to you.
The earth is a globe.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #814 on: May 28, 2020, 12:55:35 PM »
Did King Arthur pull a sword from a stone?
Perhaps another area where we differ is the ability to tell the difference between folk tales and science.

  For example, neither you or I will ever get a chance to go to the bottom of the Marianas trench, but we can chose to believe or disbelieve the few videos and the people who say that they have been there.
I think logic is enough to dictate the trench is impossible for human travel but you accept it or believe it because you trust the storylines, even though that storyline was told and sold by a film maker.
What logic dictates that it's impossible?  Are you saying that it's an engineering problem that can't be solved with enough money and resources?  BTW, the filmmaker wasn't the first one to reach the bottom.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #815 on: May 28, 2020, 12:57:18 PM »
There's a tremendous amount of evidence that Santa exists. Does he exist?
Yes, in the hearts of true believers. ;)
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #816 on: May 28, 2020, 02:08:17 PM »


Do you have to have personal access to everything in order to believe anything is real? For instance, you believe there is a dome over the earth and the sun is a projection from some crystals and such buried in a hole at the north pole. Have you personally had access to and verified those two physical things?
It doesn't matter what I believe.
You do not know for sure that nuclear bombs, exist.
You are happy to accept they do because you are happy to follow mass opinion that was garnered through storylines by so called authoritative people.

I know that there is a tremendous amount of evidence that nuclear weapons do exist. From eyewitnesses to video and everything inbetween.
There's a tremendous amount of evidence that Santa exists. Does he exist?

I am unaware of any evidence that shows that Santa exists. Just like you, me and the rest of humanity are unaware of any evidence revealing a domed earth with a carbonite projecting sun at the north pole. Now if I'm mistaken and you do have some evidence of Santa and a domed carbonite projecting sun earth, do lay it on us.
No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #817 on: May 28, 2020, 11:17:48 PM »
Sorry, intelligent, sound, normal people like me test new things in laboratories, etc. to avoid hurting people.
But they did test the bombs in laboratories.  It just so happens that those particular laboratories were remote locations to avoid hurting people, just like intelligent, sound, normal people would set up.


There has never been any confirmation or test of explosive fission in a laboratory. All laboratory work was done at Los Alamos, NM, 1942/5 between skiing.
A full scale test was done further south but it was just TNT being blown up.
 It seems you have to do it in a remote, secret location.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #818 on: May 28, 2020, 11:20:50 PM »
Only criminals do it otherwise in secret locations, etc.
The fact that we know that many of those tests occurred at Bikini Atoll and the Nevada test sites proves that they are not secret locations.  Again, there were plenty of tourists who went to Las Vegas to watch the test blasts, so it's kinda hard to keep a location like that a secret.
You know that tests occurred at Bikini Atoll and the Nevada test sites? Maybe you heard about it from someone but it does not convince me.
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sceptimatic

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #819 on: Today at 12:12:49 AM »

Well I'm was eyewitness to starfish prime, we that help you?
I was 12 at the time and saw the flash.
It was long enough to  cause the street lights to go out across the valley
then thy flickered back on.
It doesn't help one iota.
You have no clue what that was....you're just told what it was supposed to be.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #820 on: Today at 12:19:30 AM »
Did King Arthur pull a sword from a stone?
Perhaps another area where we differ is the ability to tell the difference between folk tales and science.
Yep...maybe.....BUT.....it all depends on who's listening to folk tales and believing it's science.
I believe nothing and question everything, so the folk tales become listening leisure not a belief system without back up.


  For example, neither you or I will ever get a chance to go to the bottom of the Marianas trench, but we can chose to believe or disbelieve the few videos and the people who say that they have been there.
I think logic is enough to dictate the trench is impossible for human travel but you accept it or believe it because you trust the storylines, even though that storyline was told and sold by a film maker.
What logic dictates that it's impossible?
Are you saying that it's an engineering problem that can't be solved with enough money and resources?
Definitely an engineering problem as it stands...as well as no proof of any trench.


BTW, the filmmaker wasn't the first one to reach the bottom.
Really?
Who else supposedly reached the bottom, seeing as you're telling me about it?

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sceptimatic

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #821 on: Today at 12:22:13 AM »
There's a tremendous amount of evidence that Santa exists. Does he exist?
Yes, in the hearts of true believers. ;)
Yep.....kids, mainly.....but likely a good few adults who refuse to let go.

The issue becomes....do you believe in Santa?.....And......Did you believe in Santa......And....what changed your mind?

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sceptimatic

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #822 on: Today at 12:27:06 AM »


I am unaware of any evidence that shows that Santa exists. Just like you, me and the rest of humanity are unaware of any evidence revealing a domed earth with a carbonite projecting sun at the north pole. Now if I'm mistaken and you do have some evidence of Santa and a domed carbonite projecting sun earth, do lay it on us.
There's plenty of evidence on TV that Santa exists just as there is for nuclear bombs and a spinning globe....etc.

The major issue is in understanding which of them are physically verified as being real, rather than a reliance on TV, papers and word of mouth, evidence.

It seems none of us are privy to what the reality is but many people seem to accept whatever is told to be their reality, without physical verification...and this is key.


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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #823 on: Today at 04:35:34 AM »
Christmases 1973/4 I was dressed up as Santa for the Scandinavian community in Yokohama/Japan. I moved around in my old Toyota car. I have forgotten the model. I visited plenty Scandinavian children's homes, whose parents insisted I had to have a drink to carry on and all went well. Plenty Japanese in cars and on pavements observed my show and gave me directions to return home and sober up.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #824 on: Today at 06:01:44 AM »
While Santa Claus as known today is not real, the origins of Santa Claus is based on the life and actions of a real person.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #825 on: Today at 06:18:19 AM »
There has never been any confirmation or test of explosive fission in a laboratory. All laboratory work was done at Los Alamos, NM, 1942/5 between skiing.
I suppose that it depends on how you define "laboratory".  I see no reason why the Nevada Test Site and Bikini Atoll can't be considered laboratories if experiments were performed there.

You know that tests occurred at Bikini Atoll and the Nevada test sites? Maybe you heard about it from someone but it does not convince me.
Why am I not surprised? ::)
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #826 on: Today at 06:24:44 AM »
I believe nothing and question everything...
Do you believe that there are people who are smarter than you?

BTW, the filmmaker wasn't the first one to reach the bottom.
Really?
Who else supposedly reached the bottom, seeing as you're telling me about it?
You can read about it here:
https://geology.com/records/bathyscaphe-trieste.shtml
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #827 on: Today at 09:07:14 AM »

Well I'm was eyewitness to starfish prime, we that help you?
I was 12 at the time and saw the flash.
It was long enough to  cause the street lights to go out across the valley
then thy flickered back on.
It doesn't help one iota.
You have no clue what that was....you're just told what it was supposed to be.
you have no alternative way to produce such a flash.
The the universe has no obligation to makes sense to you.
The earth is a globe.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #828 on: Today at 09:19:40 AM »
I believe nothing and question everything...
Do you believe that there are people who are smarter than you?
What does that even mean and in what terms?
Is an inventor from home smarter than a university schooled diploma achiever?
Is a bricklayer smarter than a carpenter?
Is a psychologist smarter than a sociologist?

The list is almost endless...but what does smarter actually mean?


BTW, the filmmaker wasn't the first one to reach the bottom.
Really?
Who else supposedly reached the bottom, seeing as you're telling me about it?
You can read about it here:
https://geology.com/records/bathyscaphe-trieste.shtml
And this is what I'm talking about.
You believe this without knowing it to be a truth and feel no need to question it.
It is nonsense to me and will always be nonsense until there's real proof of it happening.

The same goes for Cameron.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #829 on: Today at 09:20:53 AM »

Well I'm was eyewitness to starfish prime, we that help you?
I was 12 at the time and saw the flash.
It was long enough to  cause the street lights to go out across the valley
then thy flickered back on.
It doesn't help one iota.
You have no clue what that was....you're just told what it was supposed to be.
you have no alternative way to produce such a flash.
Lightning can produce one hell of a flash.
You simply do not know what caused the flash, except to be told it was a nuclear bomb.

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markjo

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #830 on: Today at 09:34:41 AM »
I believe nothing and question everything...
Do you believe that there are people who are smarter than you?
What does that even mean and in what terms?
Is an inventor from home smarter than a university schooled diploma achiever?
Is a bricklayer smarter than a carpenter?
Is a psychologist smarter than a sociologist?

The list is almost endless...but what does smarter actually mean?
It means that sometimes you have to trust people who know things that you don't know.

BTW, the filmmaker wasn't the first one to reach the bottom.
Really?
Who else supposedly reached the bottom, seeing as you're telling me about it?
You can read about it here:
https://geology.com/records/bathyscaphe-trieste.shtml
And this is what I'm talking about.
You believe this without knowing it to be a truth and feel no need to question it.
It is nonsense to me and will always be nonsense until there's real proof of it happening.

The same goes for Cameron.
Again, it boils down to what "real proof" would you accept?  People do incredible things and go to exotic places all the time.  Do you deny all such claims?  Remember that there is a difference between doubt and denial.

Most people have never completed a marathon, but I say that I've completed 6 of them.  Do you believe me or do I need to prove it?  If so, then what proof would you accept? 
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Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.