Convince a Round-Earther

Here's your chance, persuade me.  Explain to me how it works etc..

You will inevitably be referred here. After you've read that, they'd probably prefer specific questions so they know what you want to know.

Ah, thanks, I was looking for something like that.

EDIT:  Any other links to his book thing?

Not a problem.  You'll probably still have questions afterward.  Might consider using the search feature to see if it has already been discussed elsewhere.  If it hasn't, that's when you make a thread to discuss it. 

So is this ice wall thing basically the RE theory of the South Pole?  Basically what I'm asking is is the North Pole the center?

EDIT:  So is what you're basically saying is that the only things that exist are Earth and everything we can see from it?  How can these all constantly be moving?

So is this ice wall thing basically the RE theory of the South Pole?  Basically what I'm asking is is the North Pole the center?

Someone like TheEngineer will have to correct me where I'm wrong, but basically... the place you know as the continent of Antarctica is not really a continent, but a wall that surrounds the circular perimeter of the flat Earth.  The RE's North pole is the center of the FE. 

Okay that's what I thought.

Q: "Why does gravity vary with altitude?"

A: The moon and stars have a slight gravitational pull.

I thought the theory was these bodies were above the Earth?

Okay that's what I thought.

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Q: "Why does gravity vary with altitude?"

A: The moon and stars have a slight gravitational pull.

I thought the theory was these bodies were above the Earth?

Again, TheEngineer is a much more reliable source of FE theory than myself, but I'll take a crack at it.

I believe that because the stars and the moon are above the Earth, their slight gravitational pull affects objects differently at different altitudes.  Meaning you'd weigh less on the top of Mount Everest because the stars are pulling you up more, not because the Earth is pulling you down less.

As for the global warming part, I personally don't.  But I don't know if that is the official opinion of the FES.

Oh I got the altitude thing mixed up.  However, how is it possible to make gravity if these bodies are flat?

Oh I got the altitude thing mixed up.  However, how is it possible to make gravity if these bodies are flat?

Putting me on the spot here.  For the record, I'm only working with what I've gathered from other discussions here.  I don't believe the Earth is flat, but I think I get the theory.

I think that the stars and moon can theoretically be round in FE theory.

Q: "Why are other celestial bodies round but not the Earth?"

A: When you look at these celestial bodies, even with a telescope, they're entirely two-dimensional.

That makes little sense to me, they answer why it's round by saying it's flat.

EDIT:  Well, I just finished the FAQ.  Last question for now, how were these bodies created?  (Please don't give me a religious response.)

EDIT:  EDIT:  I have a plan.  We hire a suicidal guy to fly a plane to the proposed ice wall with a camera on the front of the plane sending the signal to us.  If it explodes, we know he's been shot down and the Earth is flat.

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Q: "Why are other celestial bodies round but not the Earth?"

A: When you look at these celestial bodies, even with a telescope, they're entirely two-dimensional.

That makes little sense to me, they answer why it's round by saying it's flat.

EDIT:  Well, I just finished the FAQ.  Last question for now, how were these bodies created?  (Please don't give me a religious response.)

EDIT:  EDIT:  I have a plan.  We hire a suicidal guy to fly a plane to the proposed ice wall with a camera on the front of the plane sending the signal to us.  If it explodes, we know he's been shot down and the Earth is flat.

Regarding Flat stars/moon with gravitational pull: ... Uhhh... I'm not going to comment on this one further because I simply don't know.  Wait for somebody who is a dedicated FE-er to come for this one.

Creation: Again, I haven't heard too much about it.  But it's sorta hard to guess about creation no matter what shape things are.  For example, what caused the big bang?  What was there before it?  What was there before whatever caused the big bang?  It's essentially impossible to know.  But a dedicated FEer might have a theory.

Your plan:  Good luck. 

EDIT:  Well, I just finished the FAQ.  Last question for now, how were these bodies created?  (Please don't give me a religious response.)

The spherical bodies in the sky were created through regular gravitation and the condensation of matter. The Flat Earth is an infinite plane which was created by an unknown process inherent in the Big Bang.

I have a plan.  We hire a suicidal guy to fly a plane to the proposed ice wall with a camera on the front of the plane sending the signal to us.  If it explodes, we know he's been shot down and the Earth is flat.

There are no guards on the Ice Wall. The Ice Wall is unguarded, free for all to visit. The March of the Penguins was filmed there.

EDIT:  Any other links to his book thing?

I just noticed that edit.  Best I could find is here.

Good work Mongrelman, I think you can replace me at lookin after the newbies when I leave

Good work Mongrelman, I think you can replace me at lookin after the newbies when I leave

Jeez, you leaving AND Bushido, soon it'll just be me stuck with Tom Bishop and a gaggle of newbies

You'll find a new Gayer 

But s/he won't be the same...no-one will

You'll find a better one

I am a better Gayer. Minus the spam.

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This is Antarctica with no ice.  Notice that there is water on the South Pole or proposed "edge."

Also, if Earth still has a core it would need to be so thick that gravity would pull it in to a ball.

Also, I've seen shuttle launches, so no, NASA doesn't just make the stuff up.

NASA launches the rockets, they just don't go where they say they go.

They go straight up until they disappear, but of course space is a lie, so where else could they go?

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(4) When the Sun is directly overhead in any place, it is NOT directly
overhead at the same time in any place a few hundred miles away:

       Sun's rays are parallel because the Sun is very far away.

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     V   V   V   V   V   V   V   V   V   V   V   V   V   V   V   V


                     this stick   ||
                     casts no   ||
                      shadow   ||                  this stick
                                   ||                  casts a shadow
                                .       .
                    .                              .              //
              .                                         .       //.
           .                                               .  //...
                                                            //....
         .                     EARTH                       ....
                                                               ...

If you were to put a stick in the ground sticking straight up at noon
in New York City, then telephone a friend in Chicago to ask him to
also put a stick in the ground sticking straight up, he would see a
shadow, and you would not.  This is hard to explain unless ``straight
up'' (away from the Earth's surface) points in different directions
when you are at different places on the Earth's surface.  That is, the
Earth is not flat.

They go up until you can't see them then go somewhere else.

Oh, I'm a fag.  Thanks, you really convinced me of the Earth's flatness.

Oh, I'm a fag.  Thanks, you really convinced me of the Earth's flatness.

You'll have to forgive people.  They really do get the same questions a lot.

Yeah the same questions and the same pictures get posted over and over again so it does get irritating

Someone at my other forum wanted me to post this.

Please, PLEASE point out to these dullards that the internet they log onto every night is made possible via an array of satellites, which only works if one supposes a round earth.

You know, I just thought of something! The cable companies must also be in on "the big lie", because their signals supposedly use satellite relays as well. Filthy pig dog lies!

And let us not forget satellite television companies, such as DirectTV. Those liars! There must be a cable going to the house somewhere! ...Unless the satellite subscribers are also in on "the big lie"!

OMG! This round-earth conspiracy is so much bigger than any of us could imagine!

You don't need satellites to make the internet possible on a flat earth though. Satellites don't even exist on a flat earth.