Christianity and Evolution

And you've never even met the people I am talking about. Therefore my conclusions are more likely to be right than yours about those people.

You immediatly go the negative of christianity and its followers, and then asume everyone who is a christian is like that. Real intelligent.

And you've never even met the people I am talking about. Therefore my conclusions are more likely to be right than yours about those people.

I did not claim any conclusions about who those people were. I am just saying your methodology is naive.

You immediatly go the negative of christianity and its followers, and then asume everyone who is a christian is like that. Real intelligent.

If you could spell, I'd take what you had to say into consideration. Most Christians who are very religious are very insane, and usually lead double lives, because they are afraid of the stigmatization that follows with the alternate life. I am talking about Jesus Camp Christians, all right?

Quote from: GeneralGayarm on May 20, 2007, 07:44:06 PM

And you've never even met the people I am talking about. Therefore my conclusions are more likely to be right than yours about those people.

I did not claim any conclusions about who those people were. I am just saying your methodology is naive.

Whether or not the methodology is naive is besides the point if I personally know the people well enough to figure out if they're are religious or not. And I do know them well enough to figure that out, shows through actions as well as words.

Whether or not the methodology is naive is besides the point if I personally know the people well enough to figure out if they're are religious or not.

It doesn't matter how much information you have if your processing method is broken, you git.

You're such a pompous asshole, Franc!  It must be nice having everything figured out about everybody and everything.

But to be honest, it doesn't really require much of a processing method to work out if someone is religious or not. This is just getting absurd now Francy.

A meta study by Paul Bell published in the MENSA magazine found that of 43 studies into the relationship between religious belief and intelligence, 39 found that there is an inverse relationship and 4 found that there was no relationship.  That is to say that 39 studies found that the stronger a persons religious belief is, the lower their intelligence is.  Of course these are averages.  No doubt there are some exceedingly intelligent religious people out there.  In fact 80% of people hold the same beliefs as their parents, so most likely those 20% of people who do not are predominately more intelligent than average.

A meta study by Paul Bell published in the MENSA magazine found that of 43 studies into the relationship between religious belief and intelligence, 39 found that there is an inverse relationship and 4 found that there was no relationship.  That is to say that 39 studies found that the stronger a persons religious belief is, the lower their intelligence is.  Of course these are averages.

I wouldn't be surprised.

You're such a pompous asshole, Franc!  It must be nice having everything figured out about everybody and everything.

What the fuck is wrong with you? I am just saying someone might be a little too naive to say something, and I'm now a pompous asshole?

Are you guys so fucking infallible that no one should dare to question you?

You guys desperately need to be taken down a peg or two... I'd punch you in the face if I could.

I was speaking generally.

If anyone says that evolution is not believed in Christianity is a liar. As a christian myself, I believe in Macro Evolution, just like everyone else in the scientific community these days. I also, like most people, believe the universe is about 13.7 Billion Years old. The Bible says that God created the heavens and the Earth, along with the animals, the sky, the universe, and, at that point, everything. However, it does not say HOW God created all that. I believe that He did, but not in one week as usually believed. I believe that God used evolution to create the animals we have today. I believe that, a certain amount of time ago, humans were apes, if you will. Anyone who says that Christians cannot also be Evolutionists is a LIAR!

Your a inbasel cause The Bible said that God created us. If you believe in any kind evolutio your not a christian. your just another person who agrees with Darwin!

Quote from: I'm INSANE on May 11, 2007, 07:36:53 PM

If anyone says that evolution is not believed in Christianity is a liar. As a christian myself, I believe in Macro Evolution, just like everyone else in the scientific community these days. I also, like most people, believe the universe is about 13.7 Billion Years old. The Bible says that God created the heavens and the Earth, along with the animals, the sky, the universe, and, at that point, everything. However, it does not say HOW God created all that. I believe that He did, but not in one week as usually believed. I believe that God used evolution to create the animals we have today. I believe that, a certain amount of time ago, humans were apes, if you will. Anyone who says that Christians cannot also be Evolutionists is a LIAR!

Your a inbasel cause The Bible said that God created us. If you believe in any kind evolutio your not a christian. your just another person who agrees with Darwin!

Bravo, you bumped a thread for that. 

Well I believe in evolution so I must side with Darwin.  Of course, I actually have proof of evolution where as you have what? The bible. 

Quote from: ChristianMan16 on July 08, 2007, 08:35:21 PM

Quote from: I'm INSANE on May 11, 2007, 07:36:53 PM

If anyone says that evolution is not believed in Christianity is a liar. As a christian myself, I believe in Macro Evolution, just like everyone else in the scientific community these days. I also, like most people, believe the universe is about 13.7 Billion Years old. The Bible says that God created the heavens and the Earth, along with the animals, the sky, the universe, and, at that point, everything. However, it does not say HOW God created all that. I believe that He did, but not in one week as usually believed. I believe that God used evolution to create the animals we have today. I believe that, a certain amount of time ago, humans were apes, if you will. Anyone who says that Christians cannot also be Evolutionists is a LIAR!

Your a inbasel cause The Bible said that God created us. If you believe in any kind evolutio your not a christian. your just another person who agrees with Darwin!

Bravo, you bumped a thread for that. 

Well I believe in evolution so I must side with Darwin.  Of course, I actually have proof of evolution where as you have what? The bible. 

And what bogus proof do you have of evolution...The Bible beats all!!

Quote from: sokarul on July 08, 2007, 08:37:22 PM

Quote from: ChristianMan16 on July 08, 2007, 08:35:21 PM

Quote from: I'm INSANE on May 11, 2007, 07:36:53 PM

If anyone says that evolution is not believed in Christianity is a liar. As a christian myself, I believe in Macro Evolution, just like everyone else in the scientific community these days. I also, like most people, believe the universe is about 13.7 Billion Years old. The Bible says that God created the heavens and the Earth, along with the animals, the sky, the universe, and, at that point, everything. However, it does not say HOW God created all that. I believe that He did, but not in one week as usually believed. I believe that God used evolution to create the animals we have today. I believe that, a certain amount of time ago, humans were apes, if you will. Anyone who says that Christians cannot also be Evolutionists is a LIAR!

Your a inbasel cause The Bible said that God created us. If you believe in any kind evolutio your not a christian. your just another person who agrees with Darwin!

Bravo, you bumped a thread for that. 

Well I believe in evolution so I must side with Darwin.  Of course, I actually have proof of evolution where as you have what? The bible. 

And what bogus proof do you have of evolution...The Bible beats all!!

Search for the evolution threads.  All in all there is to much for you to handle. 

I'm sorry, but, the Bible kicks your theory's butt!

I'm sorry, but, the Bible kicks your theory's butt!

Yeah it doesn't.  Now I'm going to go eat some mushrooms while reading http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com

Quote from: ChristianMan16 on July 08, 2007, 08:49:14 PM

I'm sorry, but, the Bible kicks your theory's butt!

Yeah it doesn't.  Now I'm going to go eat some mushrooms while reading http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com

Yeah it does and i never said mushrooms don't exsist that was Daniel!

Quote from: sokarul on July 08, 2007, 08:56:49 PM

Quote from: ChristianMan16 on July 08, 2007, 08:49:14 PM

I'm sorry, but, the Bible kicks your theory's butt!

Yeah it doesn't.  Now I'm going to go eat some mushrooms while reading http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com

Yeah it does and i never said mushrooms don't exsist that was Daniel!

And the bible.

Quote from: ChristianMan16 on July 08, 2007, 09:03:05 PM

Quote from: sokarul on July 08, 2007, 08:56:49 PM

Quote from: ChristianMan16 on July 08, 2007, 08:49:14 PM

I'm sorry, but, the Bible kicks your theory's butt!

Yeah it doesn't.  Now I'm going to go eat some mushrooms while reading http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com

Yeah it does and i never said mushrooms don't exsist that was Daniel!

And the bible.

Daniel can get crazy cause the Bible says nothing on wether Mushrooms exsist or not which we both know they do. I've actually got some sliced up in the pantry right now.

Christianboy is confusing; on the one hand he attacks Fundies like Dan, on the otherhand he acts like a Fundie...

In response to the original post (shock! horror!) your average Christian will believe in evolution. Most I know do.

Christianboy is confusing; on the one hand he attacks Fundies like Dan, on the otherhand he acts like a Fundie...

In response to the original post (shock! horror!) your average Christian will believe in evolution. Most I know do.

The "average Christian" is really a Satanist then! To be a Christian you must believe the Bible, which says nothing about evolution. So evolution is just a lie to turn people away from God who obviously is real.

Quote from: Skeptical ATM on July 09, 2007, 03:58:46 AM

Christianboy is confusing; on the one hand he attacks Fundies like Dan, on the otherhand he acts like a Fundie...

In response to the original post (shock! horror!) your average Christian will believe in evolution. Most I know do.

The "average Christian" is really a Satanist then! To be a Christian you must believe the Bible, which says nothing about evolution. So evolution is just a lie to turn people away from God who obviously is real.

Just like how the bible doesn't mention bacteria or fungi so they don't exist huh DanielZPC?

The Evolution Theory is more understandable then the 7 day creation story.

Bible also doesn't mention many things which exist, but the way in which God 'created' Man, then woman, implies a development of some type... like evolutoin maybe?

Quote from: Roundy the FE Proponent on May 21, 2007, 12:06:33 PM

You're such a pompous asshole, Franc!  It must be nice having everything figured out about everybody and everything.

What the fuck is wrong with you? I am just saying someone might be a little too naive to say something, and I'm now a pompous asshole?

No, you've always been a pompous, know it all, self-aggrandizing asshole.

Quote from: Skeptical ATM on July 09, 2007, 03:58:46 AM

Christianboy is confusing; on the one hand he attacks Fundies like Dan, on the otherhand he acts like a Fundie...

In response to the original post (shock! horror!) your average Christian will believe in evolution. Most I know do.

The "average Christian" is really a Satanist then! To be a Christian you must believe the Bible, which says nothing about evolution. So evolution is just a lie to turn people away from God who obviously is real.

He's right on that one. Don't get me wrong there's some things he says that Pentecostalist don't believe and then there's things we do.

Well then you're entitled to your opinion. But frankly, science kicks your ass on that one (not that evolution is proven, but the creation theory is disproven).

Well then you're entitled to your opinion. But frankly, science kicks your ass on that one (not that evolution is proven, but the creation theory is disproven).

I know of no such proof

Ok explain this.


When Europeans first arrived in North America, they brought with them germs that didn't kill the Spanish, but killed up to 95% of North Americans.  In South America, people who gave up their religion, and converted to Christianity died at a faster rate than those who kept their own religion.

There were no diseases of equal magnitude that wiped out the Europeans.


Now there are very straight forward explanations for this, from an evolutionary perspective, and based on the evidence that humans and our descendents are millions of years old.

What is your biblical explanation?