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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2007, 05:19:14 PM »
Quote from: Gin on May 20, 2007, 05:17:41 PM
I officially love you.


Edit: Not in that way.

Do you love me in that way though? :P
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2007, 05:23:51 PM »
Now if only we could get something out of Tom about this one.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2007, 05:26:14 PM »
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Do you love me in that way though?  :P

Of course! Almost enough to forgive you for taking this off topic  ;)

Tom, anything to say?
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2007, 05:28:39 PM »
Quote from: Gin on May 20, 2007, 05:26:14 PM
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Do you love me in that way though?  :P

Of course! Almost enough to forgive you for taking this off topic  ;)

Tom, anything to say?

Sorry, can't help it...

Yeah er Tom you idiot troll, anything to say that doesn't really count for anything cos your view isn't the FE view?
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2007, 07:01:50 PM »
*poke poke* Tom
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2007, 07:03:01 PM »
Look, if you want to know the FE answer to stuff then don't ask for Tom's answer. He does not, I repeat not, represent the FE view.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2007, 07:23:25 PM »
Then what is the general consensus on how a ship dissapears below the horizon? From what I've read in my few days on this forum, I was under the impression that 1 inch tall waves were supposed to be covering it up, and that was what most FE'ers believed.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2007, 07:26:20 PM »
Not sure, I'll ask Dogplatter when I get a chance.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2007, 07:36:33 PM »
There is no one thought of how parts of the FE work.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2007, 07:45:13 PM »
Which is why it is in desperate need of a GUFET.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2007, 07:50:17 PM »
Precisely.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2007, 01:27:43 PM »
Tom
as Gin has clearly demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt....:

If the object (ship or sun or whatever) is higher than the highest wave between the object and observer

AND

the eye of the observer is higher than the highest wave between the object and observer.

That X cm high wave will obstruct only X cm of the object AT THE MOST because THERE IS NOTHING  B E T W E E N  THE OBJECT AND OBSERVER....you stupid old fart.



 
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Mr. Ireland

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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2007, 01:38:43 PM »
Air.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2007, 01:59:19 PM »
Yes...I see you could use some. Open the window you poor chap.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2007, 02:12:29 PM »
Haha, that was a good one.

But, he said there was nothing between the object and the observer, when there's hundreds or thousands of pounds of air.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2007, 03:14:38 PM »
Yes, but air (while it may haze something into invisibility) does not cause a sharp shadow, as we can see in http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=12959.0

The sun could never 'set' in FE, just fade slowly away. This clearly does not happen.

Edit: Before you say that dusk/dawn light does fade slowly away, I'm talking about the visible disk of the Sun, which clearly disappears behind the horizon.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2007, 03:18:49 PM »
Yea, I doubt the FE there also.  Just putting what's true out there.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2007, 03:21:16 PM »
Cool.

FEers? What say you?
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2007, 05:41:16 PM »
hello i am new to this forum and i'd like to say that i am finding this discussion very entertaining  :D
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2007, 05:43:21 PM »
Gin, I think you have a very valid point. I don;t think I could have done a better job explaining that.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2007, 06:00:06 PM »
Quote from: KillerKlown on May 21, 2007, 05:43:21 PM
Gin, I think you have a very valid point. I don;t think I could have done a better job explaining that.
He tends to do that to people.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2007, 11:21:41 PM »
We're still anxiously waiting for you Tom...
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2007, 09:20:07 AM »
Waiting for the thread to fade into the horizon due the combined idiocy of your arguments, eh Tommy? Very mature.
Or do you still think you'll crack it with your little booklet. Maybe you missed something. Have you consulted chapter 14?

But don't worry, I have a booklet for you: Geometric optics.

I don't know how pathetic science works, but in real science when a phenomena that speaks contrary to the theory is observed, the theory is either found false or modified in such way to explain the new phenomena.




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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2007, 12:50:03 PM »
Although not all the things Tom comes up with are great, he has a life and isn't on the forums 24/7.  If you have to wait for a response, than wait, but don't be impatient and rude about it.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2007, 12:51:36 PM »
Tom has a life?  :o
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2007, 07:02:46 PM »
how many other threads like this do you think there are where REers have made some sort of really good point and gotten no response from FEers?

if only we could make our own REer sticky thread with our FUAQ in it (frequently unanswered questions), and fill it with all the good things RE has come up with to debunk FE, just to see what the tally is.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2007, 07:26:46 PM »
Quote from: spherehead on May 23, 2007, 07:02:46 PM
how many other threads like this do you think there are where REers have made some sort of really good point and gotten no response from FEers?

if only we could make our own REer sticky thread with our FUAQ in it (frequently unanswered questions), and fill it with all the good things RE has come up with to debunk FE, just to see what the tally is.
Hey good idea. How about even going a step farther and setting up a forum on theroundearthsociety.org?
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2007, 04:33:00 AM »
Quote from: Gulliver on May 23, 2007, 07:26:46 PM
Hey good idea. How about even going a step farther and setting up a forum on theroundearthsociety.org?

You'd have to link there beyond belief to get a response...
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2007, 05:53:41 AM »
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Quote from: Gulliver on May 23, 2007, 07:26:46 PM
Hey good idea. How about even going a step farther and setting up a forum on theroundearthsociety.org?

You'd have to link there beyond belief to get a response...
You're so right. But we'll just have to explain to the audience that FEers really do exist and hold fast to their beliefs even in the face of such overwhelming evidence.
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Re: Wave Crests And Sunsets
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2007, 09:53:39 AM »
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You're so right. But we'll just have to explain to the audience that FEers really do exist and hold fast to their beliefs even in the face of such overwhelming evidence.

If the evidence is so overwhelming, then you should be able to reference some experimental evidence for a Round Earth.
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