Unanswered FE questions

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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2007, 06:09:36 AM »
Does everyone who comes here to argue not know anything about General Relativity?  Why must I explain twenty times a day that gravity as a force does not exist and gravitation is acceleration?


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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2007, 06:12:32 AM »
I'll explain it twenty times a day for you if you make it worth my while
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2007, 06:13:35 AM »
I'll explain it twenty times a day for you if you make it worth my while
You live kind of far away...


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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2007, 06:15:40 AM »
I'll explain it twenty times a day for you if you make it worth my while
You live kind of far away...
If you change your name to Engy Baby that'll be making it worth my while

Oh and stop being mean to me
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2007, 06:55:01 AM »
I don't think he could change his name to Engy Baby now that you've taken it!

I tried to change my name to "Roundy" and it wouldn't let me because someone who hasn't been here in a long time already had the name.   >:(
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2007, 06:56:35 AM »
Does this mean I should change my name?

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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2007, 06:57:17 AM »
Why?
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2007, 06:57:50 AM »
I'll change my name back if he changes his name to Engy Baby. Or I'll change my name to Engy Baby's relativity bitch!

Yes Mr. Ireland you must change your name to well Mr. Ireland

And good effort anyway Roundy. You could change it to mumble mumble y'know
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2007, 07:00:28 AM »
I don't want to change it to mumble mumble.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2007, 07:01:32 AM »
Mr. Ireland has set the example here. I think you should all follow suit. That goes for Gayer(TheEngineer) too!
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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2007, 07:04:59 AM »
Indeed.  Now back to topic before TheEngineer comes.  Gravity and acceleration are indistinguishable, live with it.

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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2007, 07:05:44 AM »
Good thinking batman

Yes they are indistinguishable, at least so I've gathered from the countless arguments on it.
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2007, 08:30:19 AM »
No seriously. You answer goes nowhere to explaining what's going on, and your 'falling light' was very successfully debunked by me in another thread. An object's light would only crash into the Earth if it started 0.3mm above the ground and travelled its entire diameter. Light crashing just does not occur, it is not mathematically feasible.

Can atmospheric refraction not help bend light to crash? See, for example, superior mirages.
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2007, 08:32:29 AM »
Username? Who are you?!
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« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2007, 08:36:43 AM »
It can bend light to crash, but only when there is a sharp and significant difference in temperature (i.e. also pressure) between two areas. This would have to be constantly and evenly occurring for the appropriate effect to be witnessed.
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2007, 08:37:34 AM »
Who are you?

And also, one might read on the equivalence principle if one wishes to know more about why they are indistinguishable.
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2007, 08:42:45 AM »
It can bend light to crash, but only when there is a sharp and significant difference in temperature (i.e. also pressure) between two areas. This would have to be constantly and evenly occurring for the appropriate effect to be witnessed.
As constant and evenly occuring as say, the difference in pressure and temperature near the end of a fe atmosphere?
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« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2007, 08:46:28 AM »
That wouldn't be a sharp difference would it? The atmosphere doesn't just 'stop'.
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2007, 08:49:23 AM »
That wouldn't be a sharp difference would it? The atmosphere doesn't just 'stop'.
What if the atmosphere did suddenly stop, due to the universe being filled with, as Einstein suggests, aether?
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« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2007, 08:50:09 AM »
Er....what?
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #50 on: April 28, 2007, 08:54:25 AM »
Would a sharp contrast in pressure be feasible if the atmosphere stopped in a fe a bit abruptly above the stratosphere due to the unique qualities of aether?
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« Reply #51 on: April 28, 2007, 08:55:56 AM »
What unique qualities would those be? Where's the evidence?
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #52 on: April 28, 2007, 08:57:09 AM »
Why does there need to be a sharp difference in density, again?


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« Reply #53 on: April 28, 2007, 09:00:24 AM »
Because otherwise the refraction will not be significant enough to cause the effect which is attributed to it. The air you are looking through has to be bending light significantly and in exactly the same way all the time. Hot countries would notice a difference as compared to cold countries, even different seasons would put the horizon (on a clear day) at different locations.
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #54 on: April 28, 2007, 09:03:28 AM »
What unique qualities would those be? Where's the evidence?
Well, all accounts and theories on ether/aether tie it heavily to "gravitational forces".   Perhaps it has something to do with that.

Though really, I could just as well ask where is the evidence that the universe is not filled with ether. Gravitons? Come on.  You really expect me to believe that little invisble massless particles are floating about causing gravity?  I don't think the burdon of proof has yet been met to get rid of the previous theory of the universe being filled with ether.
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« Reply #55 on: April 28, 2007, 09:07:36 AM »
Maybe it has not,but aether doesn't seem to explain any kind of pressure differences in air....
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #56 on: April 28, 2007, 09:16:09 AM »
Maybe it has not,but aether doesn't seem to explain any kind of pressure differences in air....

For the time being, until someone worth their weight gains funding to study the properties of aether that may cause this, the current system, while inaccurate does prove for the time being to be useful for prediction.
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« Reply #57 on: April 28, 2007, 12:48:40 PM »
The current system is a round Earth, and it is very accurate thanks.
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2007, 01:16:21 PM »
The current system is a round Earth, and it is very accurate thanks.

Its accurate for predicting for the most part yes, but rather I meant it does not fully describe what is really happening.   Its a neive view grinded into the populaces skull by popular science and the government(s).
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Re: Unanswered FE questions
« Reply #59 on: April 28, 2007, 01:26:21 PM »
Is your password "password"?
No but I'm guess your what? 90? Cause you just so darn mature </sarcasm>