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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2007, 11:35:52 AM »
Quote from: Chrissetti on April 17, 2007, 01:12:04 PM
anarchy is a nice idea providing the transition is done gradually and the people have a clear goal towork to

Exactly. it is called educate people on what anarchy actually is.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2007, 11:37:02 AM »
Quote from: cadmium_blimp on April 17, 2007, 11:55:44 AM
I would describe myself as an anarchist, but in truth, anarchy is nothing but a pipe dream because of the very nature of mankind, which seems to be to fuck up everything we can.   ???

If human nature is "bad", then why would you want to be controlled by someone who is inherintly bad.
If human nature is good, you don't need government.
Your arguement fails.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2007, 11:40:38 AM »
A nice guide to what anarchy actually is is CrimethInc.'s "Fighting for Our Lives"
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2007, 11:41:51 AM »
Quote from: midnight on April 18, 2007, 02:03:25 AM
Quote from: Dogplatter on April 17, 2007, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: GeneralGayer is suspended on April 17, 2007, 04:42:16 PM
But you go to work out of necessity, and you don't go robbing co-ops because they have nothing worth stealing and if you did authority of the government and its institutions, which wouldn't be there in an anarchical system, would punish you. Its not out of any desire to better yourself, or the world.

I wasn't arguing for anarchy as I already stated, I'm just nitpicking individual points from wherever they come if they seem wrong.

The thing about going to work is that yes, it's a prolonged form of self-interest, but it still demonstrates our ability to make ourselves not follow our basic impulses in order to receive a greater reward in the long run.

I think that ties into that the average joe, pick your cliche' has not the BALLS to live on his or her basest set of impulses. Work is the safe way to maintain a sense of dominion over destiny. Anarchy is compelling for people who are "aware they have no real dominion over the status quo", but they rarely, if ever, push that need to dominate their lives that far. Thus, they go back to Jack in the Box, grumble about it on smoke break, but keep doing it.

Anarchy is almost like escapist fantasy, if you look at it from a sci-fi/fantasy nerd perspective. It grants the imaginer some serious "deification" of self, and makes their "boxed set" life appear to have the potential for "unrestrained freedom of impulse and excess".

Unfortunately, those that pursue it literally end up dead, or in a cell, and those that half ass it just end up dead.

You understand V for Vendetta was written by an anarchist (alan moore)?
Irony.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2007, 11:55:48 AM »
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 25, 2007, 11:41:51 AM
Quote from: midnight on April 18, 2007, 02:03:25 AM
Quote from: Dogplatter on April 17, 2007, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: GeneralGayer is suspended on April 17, 2007, 04:42:16 PM
But you go to work out of necessity, and you don't go robbing co-ops because they have nothing worth stealing and if you did authority of the government and its institutions, which wouldn't be there in an anarchical system, would punish you. Its not out of any desire to better yourself, or the world.

I wasn't arguing for anarchy as I already stated, I'm just nitpicking individual points from wherever they come if they seem wrong.

The thing about going to work is that yes, it's a prolonged form of self-interest, but it still demonstrates our ability to make ourselves not follow our basic impulses in order to receive a greater reward in the long run.

I think that ties into that the average joe, pick your cliche' has not the BALLS to live on his or her basest set of impulses. Work is the safe way to maintain a sense of dominion over destiny. Anarchy is compelling for people who are "aware they have no real dominion over the status quo", but they rarely, if ever, push that need to dominate their lives that far. Thus, they go back to Jack in the Box, grumble about it on smoke break, but keep doing it.

Anarchy is almost like escapist fantasy, if you look at it from a sci-fi/fantasy nerd perspective. It grants the imaginer some serious "deification" of self, and makes their "boxed set" life appear to have the potential for "unrestrained freedom of impulse and excess".

Unfortunately, those that pursue it literally end up dead, or in a cell, and those that half ass it just end up dead.

You understand V for Vendetta was written by an anarchist (alan moore)?
Irony.

I disagree.

I own the graphic novel. The man has an afterword that dispells such.
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My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2007, 06:46:52 AM »
Quote from: Midnight on April 25, 2007, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 25, 2007, 11:41:51 AM
Quote from: midnight on April 18, 2007, 02:03:25 AM
Quote from: Dogplatter on April 17, 2007, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: GeneralGayer is suspended on April 17, 2007, 04:42:16 PM
But you go to work out of necessity, and you don't go robbing co-ops because they have nothing worth stealing and if you did authority of the government and its institutions, which wouldn't be there in an anarchical system, would punish you. Its not out of any desire to better yourself, or the world.

I wasn't arguing for anarchy as I already stated, I'm just nitpicking individual points from wherever they come if they seem wrong.

The thing about going to work is that yes, it's a prolonged form of self-interest, but it still demonstrates our ability to make ourselves not follow our basic impulses in order to receive a greater reward in the long run.

I think that ties into that the average joe, pick your cliche' has not the BALLS to live on his or her basest set of impulses. Work is the safe way to maintain a sense of dominion over destiny. Anarchy is compelling for people who are "aware they have no real dominion over the status quo", but they rarely, if ever, push that need to dominate their lives that far. Thus, they go back to Jack in the Box, grumble about it on smoke break, but keep doing it.

Anarchy is almost like escapist fantasy, if you look at it from a sci-fi/fantasy nerd perspective. It grants the imaginer some serious "deification" of self, and makes their "boxed set" life appear to have the potential for "unrestrained freedom of impulse and excess".

Unfortunately, those that pursue it literally end up dead, or in a cell, and those that half ass it just end up dead.

You understand V for Vendetta was written by an anarchist (alan moore)?
Irony.

I disagree.

I own the graphic novel. The man has an afterword that dispells such.

Moore is also a legendary eccentric. A self-professed anarchist who practices magic[1]

[1]http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6282157.html
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2007, 06:50:00 AM »
LOL
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Quote from: Raist on September 06, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2007, 08:26:30 AM »
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 25, 2007, 11:37:02 AM
Quote from: cadmium_blimp on April 17, 2007, 11:55:44 AM
I would describe myself as an anarchist, but in truth, anarchy is nothing but a pipe dream because of the very nature of mankind, which seems to be to fuck up everything we can.   ???

If human nature is "bad", then why would you want to be controlled by someone who is inherintly bad.
If human nature is good, you don't need government.
Your arguement fails.
My argument doesn't fail becaues mankind fails, government or no.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2007, 09:10:46 AM »
Anaracy is epic fail.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2007, 02:10:28 PM »
Quote from: cadmium_blimp on April 26, 2007, 08:26:30 AM
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 25, 2007, 11:37:02 AM
Quote from: cadmium_blimp on April 17, 2007, 11:55:44 AM
I would describe myself as an anarchist, but in truth, anarchy is nothing but a pipe dream because of the very nature of mankind, which seems to be to fuck up everything we can.   ???

If human nature is "bad", then why would you want to be controlled by someone who is inherintly bad.
If human nature is good, you don't need government.
Your arguement fails.
My argument doesn't fail becaues mankind fails, government or no.
1. First, you do not explain why your arguement is better than mine.
2. So, I think you are getting at the odd belief that if their was no central governemtn as their is now, then people would randomly start shooting each other for no apparent reason and rape people and loot independent businesses.
Wow. I am guessing you have first hand experiance of this. Such as, that is how you feel. Well, then your one in a million. I don't know anyone like that.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2007, 02:11:20 PM »
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 25, 2007, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: Chrissetti on April 17, 2007, 01:12:04 PM
anarchy is a nice idea providing the transition is done gradually and the people have a clear goal towork to


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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2007, 02:21:02 PM »
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 25, 2007, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: Chrissetti on April 17, 2007, 01:12:04 PM
anarchy is a nice idea providing the transition is done gradually and the people have a clear goal towork to



That's bullshit.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2007, 02:21:23 PM »
I wonder if anyone here even knows anything about anarchy, except of the 1920's insurrectionary anarchists who blew up bombs.

Check here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_books
infoshop.org
crimethinc.com
Read the Anarchism FAQ.
Read shit by Emma Goldman, Alexander Berkman, among others
The internet is anarchy
go to the infoshop forum and discuss anarchy with someone

What the hell has saying "People suck and what to kill other people ever accomplish?" Nothing.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2007, 02:22:58 PM »
Quote from: Vauxhall the Vampire on April 26, 2007, 02:21:02 PM
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 25, 2007, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: Chrissetti on April 17, 2007, 01:12:04 PM
anarchy is a nice idea providing the transition is done gradually and the people have a clear goal towork to



That's bullshit.
and of course you don't explain why it is bullshit
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2007, 02:26:53 PM »
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:21:23 PM
I wonder if anyone here even knows anything about anarchy, except of the 1920's insurrectionary anarchists who blew up bombs.

Check here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_books
infoshop.org
crimethinc.com
Read the Anarchism FAQ.
Read shit by Emma Goldman, Alexander Berkman, among others
The internet is anarchy
go to the infoshop forum and discuss anarchy with someone

What the hell has saying "People suck and what to kill other people ever accomplish?" Nothing.


Quote from: Wikipedia.com
narchism is a political philosophy or group of doctrines and attitudes centered on rejection of any form of compulsory government (cf. "state"[1]) and supporting its elimination.[2][3] The term "anarchism" is derived from the Greek αναρχία ("without archons" or "without rulers"). Thus "anarchism," in its most general meaning, is the belief that all forms of rulership (and thus also involuntary servitude) are undesirable and should be abolished.

There are a variety of types and traditions of anarchism with various points of difference.[4][5] However, the varieties are not particularly well characterized and not all of them are mutually exclusive.[6] Other than the description above, "there is no single defining position that all anarchists hold, and those considered anarchists at best share a certain family resemblance."[7] Preferred economic systems are one of the many areas of disagreement for anarchists.[8]

There is no clear definition of Anarchy since there are so many different 'types' and 'traditions'.

Please specify which one you are talking about  ::)

A city/whatever has no order without government. Rules need to be placed to be civilized.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2007, 02:31:49 PM »
Personally, i am an insurrectionary anarcho-nihilist punk, with a lot of eco, some syndalism and post-leftist.
Pretty much all of them together except pacifist or christian.
It almost practiaclly doesn't matter.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2007, 02:40:27 PM »
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:31:49 PM
Personally, i am an insurrectionary anarcho-nihilist punk, with a lot of eco, some syndalism and post-leftist.
Pretty much all of them together except pacifist or christian.
It almost practiaclly doesn't matter.

Aka a fuckin' failure with no direction in life other than to rot in his eternal grave at the end of his no purpose life.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2007, 02:42:38 PM »
Here's a song for you anarchist's:

Dear Diary:

Mood: Apathetic.

My life is spiralling downward.
I couldn't get enough money to go to the
Blood Red Romance and Suffocate me dry concert.
It sucks 'cause they play some of my favorite songs
like "Stab My Heart Because I Love You" and
"Rip Apart My Soul" and of course,
"Stabby Rip Stab Stab".
And it doesn't help that I couldn't
get my hair to do that flippy thing.
Like that guy from that band can do.
Some days, you know...

I'm an emo kid, non-conforming as can be
You'd be non-conforming too if you looked just like me
I have paint on my nails and make-up on my face
I'm almost emo enough to start shaving my legs
'Cause I feel real deep when I'm dressing in drag
I call it freedom of expression,
most just call me a fag
'Cause our dudes look like chicks,
and our chicks look like dykes
'Cause emo is one step below transvestite!

Stop my breathing and slit my throat
I must be emo
I don't jump around when I go to shows
I must be emo

I'm dark, and sensitive with low self-esteem
The way I dress makes every day feel like Halloween
I have no real problems but I like to make believe
I stole my sister's mascara now, I'm grounded for a week.
Sulking and writing poetry are my hobbies
I can't get through a Hawthorne Heights album without sobbing
Girls keep breaking up with me,
it's never any fun.
They say they already have a pussy,
they don't need another one

Stop my breathing and slit my throat
I must be emo
I don't jump around when I go to shows
I must be emo
Dye in my hair and polish on my toes
I must be emo
I play guitar and write suicide notes
I must be emo

My life is just a black abyss,
you know, it's so dark.
And it's suffocating me.
Grabbing ahold of me and tightening its grip,
tighter than a pair of
my little sister's jeans...
which look great on me by the way.

When I get depressed I cut my wrists in every direction
Hearing songs about getting dumped give me an erection
I write in a live journal and wear thick rimmed glasses
I told my friends I bleed black and cry during classes
I'm just a bad, cheap imitation of goth,
You can read me "Catcher in the Rye", and watch me jack off.
I wear skin tight clothes while hating my life
If I said I like girls, I'd only be half right!

I look like I'm dead and dress like a homo
I must be emo
Screw XBox, I play old school Nintendo
I must be emo
I like to whine and hit my parentals
I must be emo
Me and my friends all look like clones
I must be E-Mo

My parents just don't get me, you know.
They think I'm gay just because they saw me kiss a guy.
Well, a couple guys. But I mean, it's the 2000s.
Can't 2 ... or 4 dudes make-out with
each other without being gay?
I mean, chicks dig that kind of thing anyways.
I don't know diary,
sometimes I think you're the only one that gets me,
you're my best friend...

I feel like tacos.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2007, 02:44:32 PM »
In anarchy, a government will be formed. It's just what happens. It may not be sooner or later, but it will happen. Key point in history for proof: The Dark Ages. Government was formed out of complete anarchy. It's called a power vacuum and has happened many times in history. But eventually, a government is created.

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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2007, 02:46:52 PM »
Quote from: DiegoDraw on April 26, 2007, 02:44:32 PM
In anarchy, a government will be formed. It's just what happens. It may not be sooner or later, but it will happen. Key point in history for proof: The Dark Ages. Government was formed out of complete anarchy. It's called a power vacuum and has happened many times in history. But eventually, a government is created.

~D-Draw

For once I agree with Edmunds  :o
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2007, 02:47:41 PM »
Quote from: Hara Taiki on April 26, 2007, 02:40:27 PM
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:31:49 PM
Personally, i am an insurrectionary anarcho-nihilist punk, with a lot of eco, some syndalism and post-leftist.
Pretty much all of them together except pacifist or christian.
It almost practiaclly doesn't matter.

Aka a fuckin' failure with no direction in life other than to rot in his eternal grave at the end of his no purpose life.
aka anarcho=anarchist, nihilist-sounds funny, punk-likes punk musik, eco-likes the envirnment, syndalsim-workers' rights, post leftist-doesn't like hillary clinton.

who said I didn't have any direction in life?
what direction is yours?
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2007, 02:50:39 PM »
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:47:41 PM
what direction is yours?

To die, apparently.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2007, 02:52:14 PM »
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: Hara Taiki on April 26, 2007, 02:40:27 PM
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:31:49 PM
Personally, i am an insurrectionary anarcho-nihilist punk, with a lot of eco, some syndalism and post-leftist.
Pretty much all of them together except pacifist or christian.
It almost practiaclly doesn't matter.

Aka a fuckin' failure with no direction in life other than to rot in his eternal grave at the end of his no purpose life.
aka anarcho=anarchist, nihilist-sounds funny, punk-likes punk musik, eco-likes the envirnment, syndalsim-workers' rights, post leftist-doesn't like hillary clinton.

who said I didn't have any direction in life?
what direction is yours?


Hey, you're one of the reasons society will inevitably implode (according to an article I'm writing)...I need an interview.  :o
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2007, 02:53:04 PM »
Quote from: DiegoDraw on April 26, 2007, 02:44:32 PM
In anarchy, a government will be formed. It's just what happens. It may not be sooner or later, but it will happen. Key point in history for proof: The Dark Ages. Government was formed out of complete anarchy. It's called a power vacuum and has happened many times in history. But eventually, a government is created.

~D-Draw

1. i thought that the dark ages had a monarchy, i may be wrong
2. centralist governemtns could form. not denying that. but say the people decide to go along with that centralist government and get oppressed and all this shit that happens to people. are they gonna wunna stay there probaly not.
3. i am talking about anarchy in a sense of how the communities and world is organized. you are thinking anarchy=chaos. so technically you are correct in "Government was formed out of complete anarchy. It's called a power vacuum and has happened many times in history. But eventually, a government is created." but not if anarchy was how the communities were organized.
4. AK press is an anarchist book distributor. fuck of a lot of shit gets done there. there are not daily shootings there. no hierarchal  control has come about. what up wit dat?
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2007, 02:54:00 PM »
Quote from: DiegoDraw on April 26, 2007, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: Hara Taiki on April 26, 2007, 02:40:27 PM
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:31:49 PM
Personally, i am an insurrectionary anarcho-nihilist punk, with a lot of eco, some syndalism and post-leftist.
Pretty much all of them together except pacifist or christian.
It almost practiaclly doesn't matter.

Aka a fuckin' failure with no direction in life other than to rot in his eternal grave at the end of his no purpose life.
aka anarcho=anarchist, nihilist-sounds funny, punk-likes punk musik, eco-likes the envirnment, syndalsim-workers' rights, post leftist-doesn't like hillary clinton.

who said I didn't have any direction in life?
what direction is yours?


Hey, you're one of the reasons society will inevitably implode (according to an article I'm writing)...I need an interview.  :o

i like articles.
i have never seen an implosion.
what is the name of the article?
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2007, 02:56:04 PM »
anarchists are no different from yourself.
they have jobs
go to college
eat daily.
play swim fear die
To only different apparently is they don't like oppresive controls.
duh.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2007, 02:58:52 PM »
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:56:04 PM
anarchists are no different from yourself.
they have jobs
go to college
eat daily.
play swim fear die
To only different apparently is they don't like oppresive controls.
duh.

Oppressive control? Right, so in anarchy that means you're allowed to have sex with 2 year olds? Priests are still allowed to molest little boys.

And people like Cho will be let go even though he murdered 30-something people?

Sounds like a great society.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #57 on: April 26, 2007, 02:59:26 PM »
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:56:04 PM
anarchists are no different from yourself.
they have jobs
go to college
eat daily.
play swim fear die
To only different apparently is they don't like oppresive controls.
duh.

and don't want to pay taxes
don't want to do jury duty
say that using state services are wrong even though they use them...
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #58 on: April 26, 2007, 03:04:18 PM »
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:56:04 PM
anarchists are no different from yourself.
they have jobs
go to college
eat daily.
play swim fear die
To only different apparently is they don't like oppresive controls.
duh.

Yes, that is because THEY ARE FORCED to participate in government. AKA: they pay taxes, they have a house, and if they don't have a house, they pay income taxes if they have a job. Therefore, making them hypocrites.
They don't like oppressive control, but they have to abide by it or else.
The only true anarchist would be the person who lives in the alley, doesn't have a job, and fends for himself. Working and going to school would make him not an anarchist.

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Just tell me government is so fucken great right now.

Lol, an anarchy would be so much better, right? Wrong.
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Re: Discussion on Anarchy
« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2007, 03:05:03 PM »
Quote from: Hara Taiki on April 26, 2007, 02:58:52 PM
Quote from: _MarquisDeSade on April 26, 2007, 02:56:04 PM
anarchists are no different from yourself.
they have jobs
go to college
eat daily.
play swim fear die
To only different apparently is they don't like oppresive controls.
duh.

Oppressive control? Right, so in anarchy that means you're allowed to have sex with 2 year olds? Priests are still allowed to molest little boys.

And people like Cho will be let go even though he murdered 30-something people?

Sounds like a great society.

you obviosly have an infintismal understanding about anything anarchists believe(reminding me of the noobs on this sight who always ask what the hell the Equivalence Principle is ).
ANarchists organize self defense groups and militias to keep people from infringing on the rights of others. A la revolutionary America.
And you say I don't give a shit about kids. But I assume you live in America. The same country waging an illegal war in Iraq. Jails journalists for months for no reason. among a million of other things. Just tell me government is so fucken great right now.
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