Purpose of a Conspiracy

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Purpose of a Conspiracy
« on: April 05, 2007, 12:05:56 PM »
Okay, FE's... so even if I were to agree with all of your theories, WHY would there be a mass conspiracy to promote the belief that the world is round?  What purpose would that serve?  Economic? Political? Power?  People have to have motives for efforts such as these.  Explain please.....

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Tom Bishop

Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2007, 12:14:38 PM »
See this thread on the subject. The Conspiracy's motive is money and power.

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2007, 04:21:55 PM »
The purpose of the conspiracy is to finance Tom's sex change operation.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2007, 07:06:37 PM »
Again, thats what you and your 0.1% of the world population's community thinks. There are enough evidence we've observed and understood on to how the Earth is round.

The logic behind this;

FE Assumptions/Beliefs:

He saw a cat behind the door as the door was opened, the door suddenly closed, <-amnesia here->, he said there was no cat (even though the vast majority of crowd said there is a cat behind the door), instead he said there was a dog to cover his shame of saying he saw nothing.

RE Assumptions/Beliefs:

He saw a cat behind the door as the door was opened, the door suddenly closed shut, he said he saw a cat behind the door with no further thinking, as did the crowd.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2007, 07:11:25 PM by Tom Bishop »
GPS does not require satellites, fortunately it uses it.

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Tom Bishop

Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2007, 07:12:56 PM »
Just because the majority of the world believes something, it does not automatically make it correct. Not too long ago everyone believed witchcraft existed.

Today 99.9% of the population believes in at least one of the following psudosciences:

Dianetics
Acupuncture
Astrology
Creation science
Irreducible complexity
Levitation/Anti-gravity
Parapsychology
Electronic voice phenomenon
Anthroposophical medicine
Attachment therapy
The Bermuda Triangle
Biorhythms
Chiromancy/palmistry
Crop circles
Cryptozoology
Cydonia Mensae
Dietary supplements
Earthquake prediction
Faith healing
Feng shui
Handwriting analysis/graphology
Hypnosis
Laundry balls
Magnetic therapy
Meditation
Mobile phone radiation and health
Multiple personality disorder
Near-death experiences
Out-of-body experiences
Phrenology
Planetary alignments
Polygraph/Lie detection
Reincarnation
Scientology
Séance
Shamanism
Shroud of Turin
Spiritualism
Stock market pseudoscience
Subliminal perception and advertising
Synchronicity
Therapeutic touch
Tunguska event
Tutankhamun's curse

Indeed, even Physics has its unproven pseudosciences:

Gravitons
Dark Energy
Dark Matter
Exotic Matter
Neutralinos
Graviscalars
Graviphotons
Sterile neutrinos
Axions
Saxions
Spurions
Majorons
Mirror particles
X boson and the Y boson
The magnetic photon
Sleptons and squarks
WIMP (weakly interacting massive particle)
Pomerons
Skyrmions
Goldstone bosons
Dyons
Geons
MACHO
Goldstinos
Tachyons
Preons
Photinos
Instanton fields
Magnetic monopoles
Ball lightning
Coriolis effect
Quantized Time
Flux Theory
Wisp Unification Theory
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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2007, 07:32:05 PM »
I don't want to know how you think about it. You just stated something alone, which is 1 man against billions? Even in gambling that's near to impossible for you to win. You'd have to be something other than human to be able to determine what you think is actually correct or not.

Witchcraft? Until today people do still believe in Witchcraft. It's detailed mostly in their religious books. I myself also believe there is a God.
It takes an atheist not to believe in witchcraft nor any other supernatural things in this world.
GPS does not require satellites, fortunately it uses it.

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Tom Bishop

Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2007, 07:57:32 PM »
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I don't want to know how you think about it. You just stated something alone, which is 1 man against billions?

There's your fallacy. Those billions of people don't actually study the shape of the Earth. They're simply told the Earth is round in the first grade and that's that. Later they grow up and repeat those teachings to their children, perpetuating the belief.

By stark contrast, I actually do study the shape of the Earth.

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2007, 08:03:07 PM »
Aside from the uneducated people in that 99.9%, you still do think the scientists are stupid or even in the so-called government conspiracy? I have posted some statements in http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=12214.0 if you wish to still argue about it. One day you will realize how many years of studies have lead astray upon you.
GPS does not require satellites, fortunately it uses it.

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Tom Bishop

Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2007, 08:11:57 PM »
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Aside from the uneducated people in that 99.9%, you still do think the scientists are stupid or even in the so-called government conspiracy?

Modern scientists are also raised under the dogmatic belief of a Round Earth. A degree in Physics does not entail investigating the shape of the Earth in any way. In fact, Globularism has existed a millenia before NASA. The idea of a Round Earth has always been draped in dogma.

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2007, 08:17:33 PM »
This clearly doesn't mean that if one assumes something, then it turns out to be true, one is false. Who cares if people assumes from even the dark ages that the Earth is round, NASA and whoever else that have visited outer-space proved them right. Also, there is no flaw of the Round Earth theories in relevant of a Round Earth. but I see many flaws in the FE theories considering the Earth is Round, and for the Flat Earth, it just adds up more flaws inside out.
GPS does not require satellites, fortunately it uses it.

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2007, 06:43:06 AM »
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I don't want to know how you think about it. You just stated something alone, which is 1 man against billions?

There's your fallacy. Those billions of people don't actually study the shape of the Earth. They're simply told the Earth is round in the first grade and that's that. Later they grow up and repeat those teachings to their children, perpetuating the belief.

By stark contrast, I actually do study the shape of the Earth.

I don't think you actually study anything. I have been keeping tabs on your posts. Since Daniel has not, I took it upon myself to do it for you.

Your posts google, 90% of the time. Therefore, you have the credibility of a doorstop. And before anyone gets cute asking what that means, it means his responses are not only automated, he uses macros to do it. Therefore, Tom Bishop, as a scientific entity, you do not exist.

Prove me wrong. Credentials. Accolades. Accomplishments. Let's see the real proof that you love to automate like a car assembly plant.

I await your answer to my challenge.

(plants a tree, raises some horses, watches his children grow up....)
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2007, 10:07:59 AM »
The purpose of the conspiracy is to finance Tom's sex change operation.


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D LMFAO
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2007, 10:09:53 AM »
I think you left a pseudoscience off your list, Tom.

Or did I miss where it said "Flat Earth Theory"?
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2007, 01:22:28 PM »
Just because the majority of the world believes something, it does not automatically make it correct. Not too long ago everyone believed witchcraft existed.

Today 99.9% of the population believes in at least one of the following psudosciences:
Laundry balls
lol that must be not what it looks like. 

You already posted that list.  You should call them what they are, theories.
ANNIHILATOR OF  SHIFTER

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2007, 01:25:26 PM »
The reason for the conspiracy is that they hate freedom and the Bible.

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2007, 06:46:02 AM »
Just because the majority of the world believes something, it does not automatically make it correct. Not too long ago everyone believed witchcraft existed.
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Indeed, even Physics has its unproven pseudosciences:

Dark Energy
Dark Matter
Exotic Matter
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MACHO
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This is a very telling assertion. It shows how anything Tom Bishop does not understand is Pseudo Science! No real physicist declares that dark energy or dark matter exist. Real physicists show that there is a big contradiction in current knowledge about forces at the galactic range of distances. Several hypothesis are being considered, including the four above, to help in the search of the real answer. Only those who do not understand the scientific method fail to see the difference between a tentative hypothesis, and a pseudoscience that declares something as fact with no good evidence whatsoever.

Your list indiscriminately mixes solid theories with good evidence to support them, tentative hypothesis with a hint of indirect evidence, and pure quackery.

Let's see how a real scientist thinks, looking into the Dark Matter hypothesis, which states:

Our measurements of the amount of matter in a galaxy do not fit our expectations of the speed of rotation and gravity forces in the galaxy. If there was a large amount of previously undetected matter in every galaxy, that would explain the contradiction. Therefore we should look for undetected matter. If that matter is ever found, this hypothesis will become a theory.

Please note that this is the statement of a perceived contradiction, not the statement of a proven fact.

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2007, 06:53:44 AM »
Triq needs a badge.  8)
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2007, 05:56:24 AM »
By stark contrast, I actually do study the shape of the Earth.

Yeah but obviously not very well.

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2007, 06:42:53 AM »
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I don't want to know how you think about it. You just stated something alone, which is 1 man against billions?

There's your fallacy. Those billions of people don't actually study the shape of the Earth. They're simply told the Earth is round in the first grade and that's that. Later they grow up and repeat those teachings to their children, perpetuating the belief.

By stark contrast, I actually do study the shape of the Earth.

It's a shame that when you study, you forget the parts where you're shown wrong.

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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2007, 07:01:35 AM »
Scientific amnesia. It's useful when you're trying to prove a theory that is extremely wack.
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Re: Purpose of a Conspiracy
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2007, 07:57:13 AM »
I'd be more willing to accept any one of those theories in that list than accept the earth is flat.

I'm guessing Tom is a believer in all of them  ;D
I am a strong believer in real physics.

Evidence for a Flat Earth is draped in pure science.