What proof exactly?

Quote from: duuuuh on April 05, 2007, 03:37:15 PM

Evidence of a conspiracy has nothing to do with experiments, Tom!  You're grasping here.

You want evidence but scoff at experiments? "Grasping" is probably what we're all doing to discover your true goal.

I asked for evidence of the conspiracy, not evidence of a round earth.  I'm not interested in refuting the experiments right now.  I'm interested in seeing a logical reason to believe that such a conspiracy exists.  Tom responded to my post by changing the subject, narc, and I was pointing that out.

The conspiricy has one motive: to keep itself alive.

Nasa takes tax dollars and makes high-end photoshopping and imaging software to fake space missions. This is done to create the illusion of a round earth, which is done to use tax -dollars to make imaging software. The whole damn consipicy is one huge paradoxial loop.
 

See? make a comprehensive list of motives, narc, then I'll believe you...maybe.

You'd like evidence for something that by definition is unknowable?

The Conspiracy exists because if the Earth is flat there are only two possibilities: Either the Government is bad at science, or they are deliberately hiding the truth.

I present a clear history and motive of the Conspiracy in this thread.

If you have no evidence, and all your "proof" of its existence starts with the premise that the earth must be flat, how can you use it to demonstrate the flatness of the earth to people who believe in a round earth?  Circular reasoning, Tom.  You guys are pros at it.  Please quit bullshitting around.

But while I have your ear, Tom, what about that map?  150 years of FET and not a single proponent has tried to make an accurate map?

A respected astrologer, Anders Persson explains,"The Coriolis effect does not depend on the curvature of the Earth, only on its rotation." Which is quite consistant with flat earth theory.

6) 99.99 % people believe in the round earth, not because it is a conspiracy, but because it is REAL.There is absolutely no flaw in the RE theory and everything about it can be scientificaly explained.

7) Ferdinand Magellan sailed the world long before a ''goverment would start the conspiracy'' and he prooved it was round.

That map posted is just sad. So all the distances on that map would be true for our day to day lives? lmao.

Quote from: leclerc on April 05, 2007, 10:31:34 AM

2) If you happen to see Italy over the Adriattic sea from Croatia, you won't see all of the Italian coast from the shore up, just the highest mountains, which prooves the curvature of the earth.
Also you have to be on a mountain or some higher ground and on a clear day to see it.

These are the same idea, and both are addressed in Earth: Not a Globe. As well as many topics on these boards.

Quote from: leclerc on April 05, 2007, 10:31:34 AM

1) When you see a ship dissapearing on the horizon, you would first see the hull dissapear and then the pole, it won't just fade out.

2) If you happen to see Italy over the Adriattic sea from Croatia, you won't see all of the Italian coast from the shore up, just the highest mountains, which prooves the curvature of the earth.
Also you have to be on a mountain or some higher ground and on a clear day to see it.

These are the same idea, and both are addressed in Earth: Not a Globe. As well as many topics on these boards.

Quote from: leclerc on April 05, 2007, 10:31:34 AM

3) The International Space Station and other satellites are visible with a telescope.And don't give me that crap that they are all helium baloons, they move too fast to be helium baloons, plus the tehnology and production of them are completely explained and the tehnology does exist, it isn't just made up.There is a complete log of making the ISS.

They only move "that fast" if they are "that high". So if they are helium balloons, they will be much lower, and actually travel much slower. Regardless, it is very easy to move at supersonic speed when the atmosphere is so thin. The technology is there, which is why the balloon is able to give us useful data. We only contest its ability to maintain a position above the earth.

Quote from: leclerc on April 05, 2007, 10:31:34 AM

4) It isn't explained how the Coriolis effect would work with FE yet

A respected astrologer, Anders Persson explains,"The Coriolis effect does not depend on the curvature of the Earth, only on its rotation." Which is quite consistant with flat earth theory.

Quote from: leclerc on April 05, 2007, 10:31:34 AM

5) There should be thousands of witnesses of the Ice wall in the last 500 years, not everyone can be bribed.

Thousands of witnesses? Not only is the ice wall an unpopular, for many reasons, destination. But if it is guarded by the United States, who would return to tell the tale?

Quote from: leclerc on April 05, 2007, 10:31:34 AM

6) 99.99 % people believe in the round earth, not because it is a conspiracy, but because it is REAL.There is absolutely no flaw in the RE theory and everything about it can be scientificaly explained.

Aside from popularity, the same goes for flat earth theory.

Quote from: leclerc on April 05, 2007, 10:31:34 AM

7) Ferdinand Magellan sailed the world long before a ''goverment would start the conspiracy'' and he prooved it was round.

Evidence of Magellan's expeditions are very porous. As far as scientists are concerned, there is no evidence that can truly be considered regarding the shape of the earth. His evidence mostly consists of secondary witnesses and heresay.

Quote from: narcberry on April 05, 2007, 01:51:29 PM

Quote from: leclerc on April 05, 2007, 10:31:34 AM

2) If you happen to see Italy over the Adriattic sea from Croatia, you won't see all of the Italian coast from the shore up, just the highest mountains, which prooves the curvature of the earth.
Also you have to be on a mountain or some higher ground and on a clear day to see it.

These are the same idea, and both are addressed in Earth: Not a Globe. As well as many topics on these boards.

Would someone please answer this?

If this is explained in Earth:not a globe why didn't anyone say anything about it here:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=12214.0