Scared?

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Scared?
« on: April 05, 2007, 04:11:30 PM »
Why delete my topic regarding what is the motive for the conspiracy? Why is it marketable? What is your point? Are you scared? Are YOU the conspiracy?
Why does a ship's hull disapear as it goes off into the horrizon? How come when I stand on my roof I can not see the 5000 mile high radio towers? Why don't you go fuck yourselves?

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Tom Bishop

Re: Scared?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2007, 04:20:05 PM »
There are many threads on the motive of the Conspiracy. You can start off by reading this thread for a background.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2007, 04:28:42 PM by Tom Bishop »

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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2007, 04:22:12 PM »
I see. So basically "I don't know and don't want to acess the hole in our stupid little ideas" ?
Why does a ship's hull disapear as it goes off into the horrizon? How come when I stand on my roof I can not see the 5000 mile high radio towers? Why don't you go fuck yourselves?

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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2007, 04:23:51 PM »
Furthermore, you say that the picture of space are crappy photoshops. THEY DIDN'T HAVE PHOTOSHOP IN 1969
Why does a ship's hull disapear as it goes off into the horrizon? How come when I stand on my roof I can not see the 5000 mile high radio towers? Why don't you go fuck yourselves?

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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2007, 04:28:26 PM »
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I see. So basically "I don't know and don't want to acess the hole in our stupid little ideas" ?

What's so unbelievable about the Conspiracy? Would you fake the shape of the Earth for tens of billions of dollars a year? I would.

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Furthermore, you say that the picture of space are crappy photoshops. THEY DIDN'T HAVE PHOTOSHOP IN 1969

1.) You are assuming that the Conspiracy does not keep the public in the stone age when it comes to computer technology. Militarily, there is a great incentive to keep other nations from developing advanced technology.

2.) I could warp an image of the flat horizon into a round or concave horizon using ancient levels of technology. Simply take a picture of a high altitude scene, or parts of a scene, with a special lens that gives the Curvature of Field effect. The fabrication of lenses are well within 1600's levels of technology. No computers are even necessary.

If I were perpetuating a multi-billion dollar scam in the 1960's I would make sure that my illusion of a round earth was concrete. If I wanted to place an object from one picture onto a background scene of a curved horizon all I'd have to do is cut it out, glue it onto the background photograph, feather the edges of the cutout, and take another picture of the finished product. That's all there is to it.

If my first results weren't satisfying, I'd hire a fine artist do it with a magnifying glass. You can find them on the streets of any city willing to work for minimum wage.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2007, 04:35:37 PM »
You say that they do it for tens of billions (while the goverments have tens of trillions) when you can't say how it makes them money.

1) Despite what you think historically (it's written down, so it's true!) the goverments would be in nuclear lazer alien warfare right now blowing their brains out if we were in the sone age relativley.

2) Yes, but to create a "fictional" picture of earth such as this would not work in the 1600s, much less 1969 no?

If they wanted to keep us in the dark, why create the illusion at all? Why would they purpously make this shit up if it would be best if it were stayed an illogical meaning to go into space.

Then make a picture such as the one above, but only the actual 'flat' earth. Do it. Now. Do it. Come on. Oh wait? What's that?

No beaners belive in flat earthism, only crackheads like yourself.

Yes, I still belive you are just doing this for your own entertainment.
Why does a ship's hull disapear as it goes off into the horrizon? How come when I stand on my roof I can not see the 5000 mile high radio towers? Why don't you go fuck yourselves?

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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2007, 04:50:52 PM »
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You say that they do it for tens of billions (while the goverments have tens of trillions) when you can't say how it makes them money.

The Conspiracy doesn't make the money. The National Reserve makes the money and loans it to the Government. Most of the Government's money is then extensively tracked, allocated to the correct departments. You're a fool if you think politicians can simply make a call and print out a few billion for themselves.

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Despite what you think historically (it's written down, so it's true!) the goverments would be in nuclear lazer alien warfare right now blowing their brains out if we were in the sone age relativley.

The government already has nuclear, laser, and warfare capabilities.

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2) Yes, but to create a "fictional" picture of earth such as this would not work in the 1600s, much less 1969 no?

That looks like a render from the original Star Trek to me.

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If they wanted to keep us in the dark, why create the illusion at all? Why would they purpously make this shit up if it would be best if it were stayed an illogical meaning to go into space.

Did you read the thread I linked in the second post of this thread? Space travel is impossible. There is more profit potential in making up stories about going into space and footing a huge bill to the public.

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Then make a picture such as the one above, but only the actual 'flat' earth. Do it. Now. Do it. Come on. Oh wait? What's that?

A child could do it.

Simply open a picture of a Flat or Round horizon in Photoshop and run the 'spherize' filter. Move the slider left or right depending on the picture.
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2007, 04:59:48 PM »
I see. Then what is a few billion to them? What will they do with it? Why do you base the entire theory on things you make up on things to modernize today to what was written in 1881?

I never said that, did I? Read what you're responding to.

If they have the capabilities, which they obviously do, why don't they use it? Why leave us in the dark with their equipment if they can't use it because of us?

Then you are a lifeless nerd who is making irrelevant comparisons. Why did you watch startrec if it had spherical planets? Hippocracy at best

Then how do you counter that spaceflight is just the sustained movement of a spacecraft into and through outer space. Spaceflights primarily use rocket technology for propulsion. A spaceflight begins with a launch, which provides the initial thrust to overcome the force of gravity and propel the spacecraft from the surface of the Earth. Once in space, the motion of a spacecraft -- both when unpropelled and when under propulsion -- is determined by astrodynamics. The realistic proposal of space travel goes back to Konstantin Tsiolkovsky. His most famous work, The Exploration of Cosmic Space by Means of Reaction Devices, was published in 1903, but this theoretical work was not widely influential outside of Russia.

Spaceflight became an engineering possibility with the work of Robert H. Goddard's publication in 1919 of his paper 'A Method of Reaching Extreme Altitudes'; where his application of the de Laval nozzle to liquid fuel rockets gave sufficient power that interplanetary travel became possible. This paper was highly influential on Hermann Oberth and Wernher Von Braun, later key players in spaceflight.

The first rocket to reach space was a prototype of the German V-2, on a test flight in 1942. In 1957 the Soviet Union launched Sputnik 1, which became the first artificial satellite to orbit the Earth. The first human spaceflight was Vostok 1 on April 12, 1961, aboard which Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin made one orbit around the Earth.

Rockets remain the only currently practical means of reaching space. Other technologies such as scramjets still fall far short of orbital speed, although show some potential.

A launch pad is a fixed structure designed to dispatch airborne vehicles.

It generally consists of a launch tower and flame trench. It surrounded by equipment used to erect, fuel, and maintain launch vehicles.

A spaceport, by way of contrast, is designed to facilitate winged launch vehicles and uses a long runway.[citation needed]

Both spaceport and launch pads are situated well away from human habitation for noise and safety reasons.

Rockets run though a countdown sequence prior to Rocket launch.

A launch is often restricted to certain launch windows. These windows depend upon the position of celestial bodies and orbits relative to the launch site. The biggest influence is often the rotation of the Earth itself. Once launched, orbits are normally located within relatively constant flat planes at a fixed angle to the axis of the Earth, and the Earth rotates within this orbit.



Furthermore, remember the ship returning to space, burned up in the atmosphere and stuff landed everywhere, not to mention video footage of it falling from space.

THEN DO IT! Prove to me you can do it by doing it. Right now.
Why does a ship's hull disapear as it goes off into the horrizon? How come when I stand on my roof I can not see the 5000 mile high radio towers? Why don't you go fuck yourselves?

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Re: Scared?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2007, 05:26:52 PM »
Sustained spaceflight is not possible in the FE.


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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2007, 05:30:17 PM »
Lets have you answer all my responses rather than just simply deny all my logic and give me a reason why.
Why does a ship's hull disapear as it goes off into the horrizon? How come when I stand on my roof I can not see the 5000 mile high radio towers? Why don't you go fuck yourselves?

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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2007, 05:31:40 PM »
You need mass to power a rocket.  What happens when the rocket runs out of mass to eject?  It stops accelerating.  Then the earth catches up to it and the rocket crashes into the earth.


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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2007, 05:33:59 PM »
If the earth is excelerating, then must be its surroundings or the force of the air would kill us instantaniously. Thus is the air above us, thus is what is above that, dark matter, thus also propelling the spaceship.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2007, 08:18:45 PM »
If the earth is excelerating, then must be its surroundings or the force of the air would kill us instantaniously.
What force?  The earth is accelerating at 9.81m/s^2, constantly.


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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2007, 11:06:04 PM »
If the earth is excelerating

The Earth is doing WHAT now?

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Re: Scared?
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2007, 11:53:24 PM »
You need mass to power a rocket.  What happens when the rocket runs out of mass to eject?  It stops accelerating.  Then the earth catches up to it and the rocket crashes into the earth.

If you got high enough, you could probably get some pretty good flight times. It's not like it will crash into it immediately. Even higher and maybe you could get to the point of equilibrium that the sun and moon have in relation to the earths acceleration.

In short, it's entirely possible.

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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2007, 02:47:22 AM »
I have to mention it would take other 10s of billions of dollars to make fake satellites and the space station, to fake all those pictures, to keep the conspiracy secret etc.

And there are scientists today which can tell the difference between a fake photo and a real one. You should consider prooving atleast 1 photo of round earth(which is declared authentic by NASA or someone) fake before you make a statement that all of them are.
RE= REALITY

FE= FAKE

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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2007, 07:34:48 AM »
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Then make a picture such as the one above, but only the actual 'flat' earth. Do it. Now. Do it. Come on. Oh wait? What's that?

A child could do it.

Simply open a picture of a Flat or Round horizon in Photoshop and run the 'spherize' filter. Move the slider left or right depending on the picture.

I've tried multiple times, it doesn't work.  For all pictures of flat or round horizons, the slider starts at 100%, so the only thing you can do is make it look like it is caving in on its self.

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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2007, 08:55:52 AM »
You need mass to power a rocket.  What happens when the rocket runs out of mass to eject?  It stops accelerating.  Then the earth catches up to it and the rocket crashes into the earth.
You mean the UNIVERSAL Accelerator wouldn't accelerate the rocket? How does the UA decide what to accelerate and what not to accelerate? We need to get some reputable scientists on this one, pronto.

If I could be persuaded, I might ask around here a bit... though I might get laughed off center. ???
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2007, 08:58:12 AM »
You mean Dark Energy, right?  Maybe it would accelerate the rocket, once it was sufficiently far from the earth.  But you still have to get there and back.  That would require a lot of mass.


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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2007, 09:00:58 AM »
If Earth is accelerating towards me (as you say) I wouldn't need much mass though to return.

Anyway, I figure one should be able to get at least as far as the moon since the moon hasn't crashed into us yet. Or would that be the other way around?
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2007, 09:20:54 AM »
If Earth is accelerating towards me (as you say) I wouldn't need much mass though to return.
How do you plan on slowing down?


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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2007, 10:01:27 AM »
You mean Dark Energy, right?  Maybe it would accelerate the rocket, once it was sufficiently far from the earth.  But you still have to get there and back.  That would require a lot of mass.
No, dark matter, non existing matterial that is obviously there since the universe does not end at earth. Unless the universe is flat (deedeedee)
Why does a ship's hull disapear as it goes off into the horrizon? How come when I stand on my roof I can not see the 5000 mile high radio towers? Why don't you go fuck yourselves?

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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2007, 10:03:50 AM »
You realize there is a difference between Dark Matter and Dark Energy, right?

So...how about those other things we were discussing?


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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2007, 10:29:51 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2007, 12:43:23 PM »
You realize there is a difference between Dark Matter and Dark Energy, right?

So...how about those other things we were discussing?

Yes, Dark Energy does something, Dark Matter is just there.

How about answering all my replies, such as why don't YOU warp a picture and show us the 'actual' flat earth.

Come on, if every worker for every goverment and every space society in the world were hidding something, you really don't think it would get leaked?
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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2007, 01:01:18 PM »
We were discussing space travel remember?  But if you have realized your mistake, then I guess that's good enough for me.


Why would the workers at the DMV have to know about the conspiracy?


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