Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #330 on: April 29, 2007, 07:30:09 AM »
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Quote from: dysfunction on April 27, 2007, 09:38:15 AM
That's retarded. Not only is IQ an accurate measure of intelligence, intelligence is an awful standard to judge whether someone is ready to be sexually active or not. Intelligence can be completely separate from maturity.

I agree. Knowing something is far different than coming to grips with said knowledge. Children don't have that.

I'm sorry for the confusion, I didn't literally mean to write IQ, but common sense. Again, I'm very sorry for the confusion.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #331 on: April 30, 2007, 10:19:15 AM »
well let's get this back on track shall we:p

some kids do want to have sex

and some adults can fall in love with (and, thus, not be in an 'exploit!' mode) kids

thus the 'moral' majority is 'anti-love' and 'anti-freedom'

and of course (shame on your cognition that i must point this out again), holding these ideas does not make me a pedo

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #332 on: April 30, 2007, 10:57:12 AM »
Oops, in my last post I meant to say "IQ is NOT an accurate measure of intelligence".

well let's get this back on track shall we:p

some kids do want to have sex

and some adults can fall in love with (and, thus, not be in an 'exploit!' mode) kids

thus the 'moral' majority is 'anti-love' and 'anti-freedom'

and of course (shame on your cognition that i must point this out again), holding these ideas does not make me a pedo

In these cases I largely agree with the 'moral majority'. Yes, there are children who are ready, willing, and fall in love with adults. But most children under 14 or 16 are not. The laws are there for a reason; all that is required is slight modification of these laws to allow the (in my opinion, fairly few) legitimate relationships between adults and children, not a wholesale abandomnent of the laws.
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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #333 on: April 30, 2007, 01:10:35 PM »

and of course (shame on your cognition that i must point this out again), holding these ideas does not make me a pedo

No, just a closet pedo.


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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #334 on: April 30, 2007, 03:06:52 PM »

and of course (shame on your cognition that i must point this out again), holding these ideas does not make me a pedo

No, just a closet pedo.



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My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #335 on: September 05, 2007, 02:36:39 PM »
Once gay is embraced, (almost there) pedophelia and beastiality are next.

The same arguments are used to justify all three.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #336 on: September 05, 2007, 03:03:51 PM »
Just because you can cut and paste from a Nazi website does not mean you are right.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #337 on: September 05, 2007, 03:05:36 PM »
Just because you can cut and paste from a Nazi website does not mean you are right.

Who is that directed at?

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #338 on: September 05, 2007, 03:15:25 PM »
Directed at Narcberry, although I now realise you are not necessarily quoting from the BNP website. It seems to be a more common argument than I had thought.


Anyway, unless you can talk to animals it's hard to argue bestiality is consentual. Paedophilia is wrong because children are not old enough to feel sexually attracted to anyone, therefore they are being abused for pleasure by an adult. In the case of teenagers, they are biologically old enough but, just as teenagers can biologically drink, smoke, and possibly drive, society sets age limits on these things.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #339 on: September 05, 2007, 03:25:11 PM »
So when you are 80 years old, do you think you might understand things better and consider teenagers unable to make these decisions responsibly? And wouldn't it be possible to have a greater understanding that would make the previous understanding seem unqualified to make that decision? And isn't it possible that this cycle could continue onward forever? And isn't it possible that in this perspective a child has the same qualifications to make a sexual decision that a teenager or an adult would have?

Who are we to deny a child the right to use their body how they see fit? We don't deny homosexuals from using their body in a way that is obviously incorrect.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #340 on: September 05, 2007, 04:24:20 PM »
Pedophilia is an orientation. Go away.
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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #341 on: September 06, 2007, 07:55:58 AM »
Pedophilia is linked to Atheism. To get rid of pedophiles we must first get rid of Atheists.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #342 on: September 06, 2007, 08:04:56 AM »
Pedophilia is linked to Atheism. To get rid of pedophiles we must first get rid of Atheists.

And yet nearly every major sex scandal on Capital Hill Involves Conservative Republicans. Irony is pregnant with your baby.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #343 on: September 06, 2007, 08:47:10 AM »
Don't feed the troll.

Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #344 on: September 06, 2007, 12:25:38 PM »
Pedophilia is linked to Atheism. To get rid of pedophiles we must first get rid of Atheists.

And yet nearly every major sex scandal on Capital Hill Involves Conservative Republicans. Irony is pregnant with your baby.

They are really athiest liberal trash pretending to be Conservative Republicans! Looks like you're the one pregnant with my baby!

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #345 on: September 06, 2007, 12:43:47 PM »
Pedophilia is linked to Atheism. To get rid of pedophiles we must first get rid of Atheists.

And yet nearly every major sex scandal on Capital Hill Involves Conservative Republicans. Irony is pregnant with your baby.

They are really athiest liberal trash pretending to be Conservative Republicans! Looks like you're the one pregnant with my baby!

Hmm, oral office comes to mind. The only reason republicans can be accused of sex scandals is because only republicans would call it a scandal. Liberals celebrate their moral failure. Hillary Clinton, your lesbian escapades are a motivation to us all!!

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #346 on: September 06, 2007, 01:13:13 PM »
Pedophilia is linked to Atheism. To get rid of pedophiles we must first get rid of Atheists.

And yet nearly every major sex scandal on Capital Hill Involves Conservative Republicans. Irony is pregnant with your baby.

They are really athiest liberal trash pretending to be Conservative Republicans! Looks like you're the one pregnant with my baby!

I keep forgetting you are a droid.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #347 on: September 06, 2007, 01:46:56 PM »
Who are we to deny a child the right to use their body how they see fit? We don't deny homosexuals from using their body in a way that is obviously incorrect.

Homosexuals are adults. Children are not.

Besides, condoms are just as incorrect as homosexuals - why not ban condoms?

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #348 on: September 06, 2007, 03:53:40 PM »
Who are we to deny a child the right to use their body how they see fit? We don't deny homosexuals from using their body in a way that is obviously incorrect.

Homosexuals are adults. Children are not.

Besides, condoms are just as incorrect as homosexuals - why not ban condoms?

Cause then i can't bang the chickies with reckless abandon and feel no guilt afterwards?

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #349 on: September 06, 2007, 04:09:42 PM »
Pedophilia is linked to Atheism. To get rid of pedophiles we must first get rid of Atheists.
Priests would never do such a thing as rape little choir boys ::), no that would be the atheists  ;)

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #350 on: September 06, 2007, 06:01:04 PM »
Pedophilia is linked to Atheism. To get rid of pedophiles we must first get rid of Atheists.
Priests would never do such a thing as rape little choir boys ::), no that would be the atheists  ;)

Well i would say any priest that molests little boys has lost quite a bit of faith in god.
You may be onto something there.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #351 on: September 06, 2007, 06:24:49 PM »
Who are we to deny a child the right to use their body how they see fit? We don't deny homosexuals from using their body in a way that is obviously incorrect.

Homosexuals are adults. Children are not.

Besides, condoms are just as incorrect as homosexuals - why not ban condoms?

I think I argued my point against this stand already in this thread. Laziness dictates that I don't make sure of that, however.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #352 on: September 06, 2007, 06:28:47 PM »
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Having sex with childeren is wrong.
...why?

Why? WHY?! Because its immoral thats why! Same reason you dont steal a car or set a house on fire or shoot someone in the head or rape a woman or send a threatening letter to someone or stalk someone ect ect.
Weather the child consents or not is immaterial, there are laws that prevent this sort of thing, becausit is immoral and ,as has been pointed out before, biologically impratical.

Right and wrong are subjective; the same with morals (e.g. abortion).  How is sex with minors 'biologically impractical?'  What if that sex builds a strong bond bewtween the two individuals invovled?  I would say there is a social and possibly a biological practicality (i.e.e pleasure) there.
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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #353 on: September 06, 2007, 06:49:59 PM »
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Having sex with childeren is wrong.
...why?

Why? WHY?! Because its immoral thats why! Same reason you dont steal a car or set a house on fire or shoot someone in the head or rape a woman or send a threatening letter to someone or stalk someone ect ect.
Weather the child consents or not is immaterial, there are laws that prevent this sort of thing, becausit is immoral and ,as has been pointed out before, biologically impratical.

Right and wrong are subjective; the same with morals (e.g. abortion).  How is sex with minors 'biologically impractical?'  What if that sex builds a strong bond bewtween the two individuals invovled?  I would say there is a social and possibly a biological practicality (i.e.e pleasure) there.

There still is a line. When the young person involved is so young as to cause harm (physical or mental) then sex is obviously wrong.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #354 on: September 06, 2007, 06:52:16 PM »
There still is a line. When the young person involved is so young as to cause harm (physical or mental) then sex is obviously wrong.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #355 on: September 06, 2007, 06:53:07 PM »
There still is a line. When the young person involved is so young as to cause harm (physical or mental) then sex is obviously wrong.

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Good buzzer or "oh i'm sorry that is incorrect" buzzer.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #356 on: September 06, 2007, 06:56:48 PM »
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There's a 10% chance for each of them that one will be gay, so 20% chance it will go against their sexuality.

Ahem.  That's 19% chance, not 20%.

How's that come to 19%?

If the two were one person and you added the 10% possibilities you would get 20%, but you're going to tell me there is something wrong with that...

The 19% may be factoring bisexuality.

edit - damn, crimson beat me to it. I should lurk before posting.
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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #357 on: September 06, 2007, 07:12:24 PM »
Good buzzer or "oh i'm sorry that is incorrect" buzzer.

"oh i'm sorry that is incorrect" buzzer.

But I'm not sorry. :-*
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« Reply #358 on: September 06, 2007, 07:18:50 PM »
Good buzzer or "oh i'm sorry that is incorrect" buzzer.

"oh i'm sorry that is incorrect" buzzer.

But I'm not sorry. :-*

So you're saying it's ok to have sex with a child even if it hurts them?

That is very opposite to the way our law system works.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #359 on: September 06, 2007, 07:19:11 PM »
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