Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #360 on: September 06, 2007, 08:39:37 PM »
So you're saying it's ok to have sex with a child even if it hurts them?

It's against the law, but yes.
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« Reply #361 on: September 06, 2007, 08:41:40 PM »
So you're saying it's ok to have sex with a child even if it hurts them?

It's against the law, but yes.

Therefore you are a pathogen and are now beneath my notice. Noted.
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« Reply #362 on: September 06, 2007, 08:59:03 PM »
Therefore you are a pathogen and are now beneath my notice. Noted.

 ::) Guess people haven't learned yet.
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« Reply #363 on: September 06, 2007, 09:00:39 PM »
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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« Reply #364 on: September 06, 2007, 09:05:43 PM »
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« Reply #365 on: September 06, 2007, 09:35:50 PM »
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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« Reply #366 on: September 06, 2007, 09:36:29 PM »


My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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« Reply #367 on: September 06, 2007, 10:44:03 PM »
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« Reply #369 on: September 06, 2007, 10:58:11 PM »
I had Cyberdemon Goatse around somewhere, but I don't know where it is anymore.
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« Reply #370 on: September 07, 2007, 05:41:05 AM »
I had Cyberdemon Goatse around somewhere, but I don't know where it is anymore.

That's probably for the best....

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« Reply #371 on: September 07, 2007, 03:39:16 PM »


Found it.  :D
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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #372 on: September 09, 2007, 09:01:36 PM »
If the internet had a picture definition, my bet would be it's goatse.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #373 on: September 09, 2007, 09:43:51 PM »
I had Cyberdemon Goatse around somewhere, but I don't know where it is anymore.

If the internet had a picture definition, my bet would be it's goatse.

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« Reply #374 on: September 09, 2007, 11:06:57 PM »
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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« Reply #375 on: September 14, 2007, 10:39:42 AM »
You posted that before...But i still lol every time.
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« Reply #376 on: September 26, 2007, 02:14:41 PM »
Bumped to tickle Narc's fancy.
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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #377 on: September 26, 2007, 02:23:13 PM »
Replied to make me happy.

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« Reply #378 on: December 11, 2007, 11:25:10 PM »
I am amused, and pleased to add this back to the top of the pile.
if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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« Reply #379 on: December 12, 2007, 09:10:36 AM »
Ugh, you people and your social relativism.  Sure, we could call absolutely every belief we have into question, because we've got no real frame of reference on which we could base our definitions of "good" and "evil" (unless you're a theist, but then you'd have to prove that your religion is truth, good luck with that). 

I could ask "Why is it bad to kill people?",  "Why is it bad to steal?", "Why is it bad to sleep with my neighbor's wife?",  It's only your foolish social taboos based on the Judeo-Christian belief system that makes these things wrong.

For anything to be logically deduced to be good or bad, we have to first define good and bad, however, as soon as we do that, there are some people who will disagree with our definition, and we'll have to accept that they have their "good" and we have ours, and we have to tolerate their good because it's just as valid as ours; they're both products of social conditioning, and not based on any true, objective, scale of right or wrong.

But honestly, doesn't this kind of thinking digust you?  I'm sorry, but I find I have to believe that some things are good and some things are evil, absolutely, not simply as a result of my social conditioning.

Sorry, pedophelia is wrong.  Actually, come to think of it, I'm not at all sorry.  Pedophelia is wrong.

I have read over this thread for a long time. I decided to respond more in depth, and perhaps shed a small shingle of my usually titanium-laced internet armor, and open up a can of ass whoop on some of the opinions I see expressed in this thread.

A - Ignorance is a contagious disease.

B - I was the victim of a pedophile, from the age of 8 years, to the age of 12, when I took it upon myself to emulate Batman on illicit drugs and end the man's legs (literal fact).

This means two things:

A - I know for a fact that pedophilia and the age of consent are both almost ALWAYS diametrically opposed. How do I know this? I never gave consent. When I was eight years old, I knew not my ass, from a hole in the ground (no pun intended). Eight year old children do not understand the complex dynamics of sexuality any more than a grapefruit understands it is fruit. Simply not reality. The human brain stops physical development at the age of eight. Yes, in rare cases, puberty starts that soon for some people, and consciousness of self follows, but that is a MINUTE portion of the human race. Pedophile, by definition, means a person is sexually aroused by children, is attracted to their innocence, and thus is hard pressed (no pun intended again) to find themselves able to perform sexual acts with another adult. Satistically, these men (and women) were victimized as children themselves, and some view their predilection as revenge on the world (professional journals document these on a constant basis, pick one).

So, no, pedophilia and the age of consent are not the same things. Almost never. In Africa, it is a different culture, and paradigm shift away from western thinking. In Africa, at 10, many young women are the only woman in a household, AIDS being a prime factor in that. Those people have so many of their elders dying of AIDS, and FAMINE, and worse, that they are forced to grow up fast, and learn early. It isn't right, in my eyes, but their entire culture is completely anathema to anything known to us here in the states.

B - I have absolutely no fond memories of sodomy at the age of 8. I spent many years in therapy, and in isolated places, overcoming nightmares, cold sweats, social anxiety, and my ability to know and love myself as a human being. Emotionally, it is safe to say, I am beyond fucked up, and will never be "alrighty". Most days, I am incapable of a solid emotion. This is a result of years of "going away in my head" just to survive. In short, I feel nothing, most of the time. It is not something I wish on even my worst enemy. Some pop culture icons in literature and books typify this, and it is mistaken as badassness. It is a cold and lonely way to live your life, and I have "sexually free" dip-shits to thank for my curse.

Therefore, in closing, to those morons who have this Utopian Mindset that if we all just roll over, play dead, and let the NAMBLA people have their precious man/boy love,I say this:

When you die, remember my face.

And those studies that were mentioned in the OP, not a source was given. I call bullshit. If it is, in fact, established doctrine in the mental health field for prominent people to say such things, show me a clinical journal that explains this. It calls into question the lobby behind these ideals, and it stinks like shit.
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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #380 on: December 12, 2007, 09:22:23 AM »
I call bullshit on most of the stuff I see appearing in this site. I wouldn't let it worry you.
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« Reply #381 on: December 12, 2007, 09:30:30 AM »
Not worried. Curious who these simpleton egomaniacs are, and if they have the balls to go out on a limb for something besides their own gratification.
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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #382 on: December 15, 2007, 03:54:09 PM »
What's really fucked up is I heard about this very topic on the radio the other day... there are actually friggin organizations and a few sociologists, etc. that try to back up what they try to call "child-love" and that many children have "fond memories" of their abuse, etc and it's not a bad thing... I had to turn it off. What a bunch of fucking bullshit!

I too have no fond memories of my childhood in this regard and I don't mind saying so. I've managed to move on and have a pretty decent life, but I'm also a man. A very large, very tall man - and it makes all the difference in the world. I was luck to grow "up" quickly and by the age of 12 was able to defend myself. People who tell you otherwise are full of shit. I've met people who've had similar situations and it makes me ill what they've had to put up with compared to myself and I had it bad enough. I think it's one reason I've dealt with my past a little bit more is that I remind myself how much worse it could have been if I hadn't been able to get out when I did.

These groups... is it NAMBLA? That's what I remember hearing on the radio, and another one as well, I'll have to look it up so I can write those assholes.... are literally run by paedophilia "activists" .. do you get that?? "Activists"!! Holy shit, what a screwed up world we live in.

I know this much. When my son arrives next year, if anyone even so much as looks cross-eyed at him I will beat the ever loving shit out of them just for principle. I'm sick of this don't do anything out of fear of jail BS any more. I don't care if it jeopardizes everything I've gone to school for, I will not allow one of these sick freaks to live near us or get near my son if I can do anything about it. I also have no compunctions about monitoring his emal and chats when he grows up. People don't know what parenting is anymore these days. It's either leave them to the tv-sitter or do something else to screw them up.

Ah shit, I got on a sop box. Sorry - that broadcast really pissed me off.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #383 on: December 18, 2007, 12:14:46 PM »
Not that they are then forgivable.  Priests should know better and be better.

why is that?  aren't they human?  or are they supposed to be hand-guided by god itself?  i don't care what beliefs they subscribe to, no one escapes the influences of evolution and one of it's results, hormones.  one would think priests should be worse with sex-related crimes, not better.  catholic priests have to take vows of chastity, and masturbation is forbidden.  with such a fucked up understanding of mammalian behavior, hormonal systems, and neurobiology, it's amazing to me that priests aren't running around gang-raping everything goat and virgin in sight.

(which i suppose would then reduce the incidence of pedophilia.  maybe i need to think that theory through some more.)

it is interesting to note that 75% of the general US population claim to be christian.  75% of the prison population claim to be christian.  meanwhile, 2% of the general population claim themselves atheist.  yet only 0.8% of the prison population claim themselves atheists.  the divorce rate among self-proclaimed christians is higher than non-christians.

it is countless stats like these which question the notion that being a christian means being moral.  (flame suit is on.  this is an ageless argument with no side conceding.  christians will never just say, "ok, ok.  we are evil.  you win."  any more than bishop would say, "ok, you got me.  i'm a filthy lying troll.")

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« Reply #384 on: December 18, 2007, 01:20:03 PM »
Not that they are then forgivable.  Priests should know better and be better.

why is that?  aren't they human?  or are they supposed to be hand-guided by god itself?  i don't care what beliefs they subscribe to, no one escapes the influences of evolution and one of it's results, hormones.  one would think priests should be worse with sex-related crimes, not better.  catholic priests have to take vows of chastity, and masturbation is forbidden.  with such a fucked up understanding of mammalian behavior, hormonal systems, and neurobiology, it's amazing to me that priests aren't running around gang-raping everything goat and virgin in sight.

(which i suppose would then reduce the incidence of pedophilia.  maybe i need to think that theory through some more.)

it is interesting to note that 75% of the general US population claim to be christian.  75% of the prison population claim to be christian.  meanwhile, 2% of the general population claim themselves atheist.  yet only 0.8% of the prison population claim themselves atheists.  the divorce rate among self-proclaimed christians is higher than non-christians.

it is countless stats like these which question the notion that being a christian means being moral.  (flame suit is on.  this is an ageless argument with no side conceding.  christians will never just say, "ok, ok.  we are evil.  you win."  any more than bishop would say, "ok, you got me.  i'm a filthy lying troll.")

Ever studied what is takes to become a priest? I didn't surmise so. They are held to a higher standard than the layman. They know better, and should be held accountable.

But none of that has lasting relevance to your purpose. Your Tom comment hints at an unhealthy obsession.

I call Narcberry on this one.
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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #385 on: December 18, 2007, 01:33:14 PM »
Not that they are then forgivable.  Priests should know better and be better.

why is that?  aren't they human?  or are they supposed to be hand-guided by god itself?  i don't care what beliefs they subscribe to, no one escapes the influences of evolution and one of it's results, hormones.  one would think priests should be worse with sex-related crimes, not better.  catholic priests have to take vows of chastity, and masturbation is forbidden.  with such a fucked up understanding of mammalian behavior, hormonal systems, and neurobiology, it's amazing to me that priests aren't running around gang-raping everything goat and virgin in sight.

(which i suppose would then reduce the incidence of pedophilia.  maybe i need to think that theory through some more.)

it is interesting to note that 75% of the general US population claim to be christian.  75% of the prison population claim to be christian.  meanwhile, 2% of the general population claim themselves atheist.  yet only 0.8% of the prison population claim themselves atheists.  the divorce rate among self-proclaimed christians is higher than non-christians.

it is countless stats like these which question the notion that being a christian means being moral.  (flame suit is on.  this is an ageless argument with no side conceding.  christians will never just say, "ok, ok.  we are evil.  you win."  any more than bishop would say, "ok, you got me.  i'm a filthy lying troll.")

Ever studied what is takes to become a priest? I didn't surmise so. They are held to a higher standard than the layman. They know better, and should be held accountable.

But none of that has lasting relevance to your purpose. Your Tom comment hints at an unhealthy obsession.

I call Narcberry on this one.

have you?  and in fact i have studied religion and the history of religion - christianity in paricular, quite extensively and formally.  you do not need to know the reasons why.  but it demonstrates your greatly misplaced arrogance and resulting propensity for sticking foot in mouth as you just have.  and the fact that you believe "they are held to a higher standard than the layman" or "they should know better" actually means a can of shit other than an unintentionally built-in motivation to look the other way, suggests a profound ignorance and/or credulity.

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« Reply #386 on: December 18, 2007, 01:35:59 PM »
Not that they are then forgivable.  Priests should know better and be better.

why is that?  aren't they human?  or are they supposed to be hand-guided by god itself?  i don't care what beliefs they subscribe to, no one escapes the influences of evolution and one of it's results, hormones.  one would think priests should be worse with sex-related crimes, not better.  catholic priests have to take vows of chastity, and masturbation is forbidden.  with such a fucked up understanding of mammalian behavior, hormonal systems, and neurobiology, it's amazing to me that priests aren't running around gang-raping everything goat and virgin in sight.

(which i suppose would then reduce the incidence of pedophilia.  maybe i need to think that theory through some more.)

it is interesting to note that 75% of the general US population claim to be christian.  75% of the prison population claim to be christian.  meanwhile, 2% of the general population claim themselves atheist.  yet only 0.8% of the prison population claim themselves atheists.  the divorce rate among self-proclaimed christians is higher than non-christians.

it is countless stats like these which question the notion that being a christian means being moral.  (flame suit is on.  this is an ageless argument with no side conceding.  christians will never just say, "ok, ok.  we are evil.  you win."  any more than bishop would say, "ok, you got me.  i'm a filthy lying troll.")

Ever studied what is takes to become a priest? I didn't surmise so. They are held to a higher standard than the layman. They know better, and should be held accountable.

But none of that has lasting relevance to your purpose. Your Tom comment hints at an unhealthy obsession.

I call Narcberry on this one.

have you?  and in fact i have studied religion and the history of religion - christianity in paricular, quite extensively and formally.  you do not need to know the reasons why.  but it demonstrates your greatly misplaced arrogance and resulting propensity for sticking foot in mouth as you just have.  and the fact that you believe "they are held to a higher standard than the layman" or "they should know better" actually means a can of shit other than an unintentionally built-in motivation to look the other way, suggests a profound ignorance and/or credulity.

Yes, actually, Commander Keen, I have! :-*

If you bother to pay attention to this area, you will surmise that I am pretty much the resident of this area. There is a palpable reason, which I believe you will come to see in time. Until then, break out those cliff's notes, and get to work.

Oh wait. Now it gets ugly...
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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #387 on: December 18, 2007, 02:19:14 PM »
If you bother to pay attention to this area, you will surmise that I am pretty much the resident of this area. There is a palpable reason, which I believe you will come to see in time. Until then, break out those cliff's notes, and get to work...Oh wait. Now it gets ugly...

the only thing i have consistently surmised from your drivel is:

a) you like annoying people with a seizure-inducing flashy attention-getting "hey look how clever i am" animated gif.

b) you think you are smart.

c) you aren't.

d) you are annoying even without the animated gif, and have contributed nothing to this forum.

"now it gets ugly", huh?  i tell you what: you go ahead and prepare for battle with me.  get as ugly as you think you can muster.  keep yourself occupied!  knock yourself out.  please.

i waste too much time on this forum as it is, the last thing i need is to get in a trivial, virtual pissing match with a punk kid who grew up were no one loses at dodge-ball and everyone got trophies so you all think you are fucking "special" and deserve to be "heard" (and actually think anyone gives two shits).  i haven't done what i have done, and seen what i have seen, and been where i have been - to waste any more time than i already have giving rewarding attention to a selfish little self-absorbed smart-ass pimple like you. 

i've seen kids like you.  you think they are important.  you think you matter.  you think people care what about the "important" things you know and have to say.  and you die.  stupidly and badly.  i've watched a handful of you die fucking horrible, screaming deaths.  you typically die because you think you know everything and think you are a fucking action superhero.  "ooh, i'm in the fucking army now!"  you don't know shit, little boy.  you just fucking die.  or more often just suffer debilitating head trauma and are a vegetable or an idiot for the rest of your life, and a goddamned cancer to everyone that once loved you but now has to wipe your stinking ass.  all because of your arrogance and know-it-all bullshit.

i have no fucking patience for that, none what-so-fucking-ever.  i don't want to debate with you, i want to kick your paunchy little couch-potato, x-box playing, red-bull-drinking, pansy ass, for having to call in scrape-up crews on your ragged oozing bloody guts, rather than just listening to people a hell of alot smarter and more experienced than you.  a retarded fucking little *dead* bitch punk *just like you* is the reason part of me is still somewhere in the fucking sand.  you fucking bitch.  you never fucking learn to *listen*.  you just talk.  talk out your ass.  talk a bunch of bullshit.  just as in life, just as in basic, just as in the field, just as in death.  i swear to god, if i met you in person i would put you in the fucking hospital.  if you're lucky.  there is a reason i never wanted to get to know rap-metal-listening bitch-punks like you, and i sure as hell am not going to get to know *you*.  you are an 18 year-old vastly inferior version of bishop.  so go piss off now, this is the last "conversation" we are having.  period.

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« Reply #388 on: December 18, 2007, 02:29:08 PM »
You just did my work for me, boy.

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A - I am an adult, just as you someday wish to be.
B - Such emotion says more than your post.
C - Violence is something we both are quite familiar with, I am sure, but again, tough guy on the internet is moot.
D - Your prose becomes more and more emotional per line, thus rendering you a fruit.
E - You came to the site here to "expose lies" and have been thusly exposed for the spineless jughead you are.
F - I admire your ability to deny your irrelevance. Most come to see it sooner.
G - You are not the only person to serve his nation, but I digress.
H - I am entertained.

You said you wish to not engage me, but keep doing the opposite. Irony. You and Tom are cut from the same cloth, but Tom has the sense to know when to say when.

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Re: Pedophilia Activism -- Does Sex Harm Children?
« Reply #389 on: December 18, 2007, 04:02:37 PM »
Not that they are then forgivable.  Priests should know better and be better.

why is that?  aren't they human?  or are they supposed to be hand-guided by god itself?  i don't care what beliefs they subscribe to, no one escapes the influences of evolution and one of it's results, hormones.  one would think priests should be worse with sex-related crimes, not better.  catholic priests have to take vows of chastity, and masturbation is forbidden.  with such a fucked up understanding of mammalian behavior, hormonal systems, and neurobiology, it's amazing to me that priests aren't running around gang-raping everything goat and virgin in sight.

(which i suppose would then reduce the incidence of pedophilia.  maybe i need to think that theory through some more.)

it is interesting to note that 75% of the general US population claim to be christian.  75% of the prison population claim to be christian.  meanwhile, 2% of the general population claim themselves atheist.  yet only 0.8% of the prison population claim themselves atheists.  the divorce rate among self-proclaimed christians is higher than non-christians.

it is countless stats like these which question the notion that being a christian means being moral.  (flame suit is on.  this is an ageless argument with no side conceding.  christians will never just say, "ok, ok.  we are evil.  you win."  any more than bishop would say, "ok, you got me.  i'm a filthy lying troll.")
Do you know the saying there aren't atheists in foxholes? I think the same applies to lots of situations. If I thought I might be gang raped every night, that might encourage me to pray.