Proof of FE

That’s why I said it led to calculus but if you aren’t going to go the calculus (aka just claim you can keep leveling buildings off the neighbor) then calculus doesn’t answer the question, its just a word. 

I can say you can't level a build of your neighbor and you cant disprove it.   

So you are saying that if you and your neighbors home had parrallel floors, either your home or his would be unlevel?

Well, unless something was done to flatten the earth beneath the two houses, no, they wouldn't be level.  Show me where on earth there is a perfectly flat piece of land.

duuuh, why dont you wait on the sidelines for a bit. I dont think you're quite up to speed as to what we are saying.

Well, the point is, anyway, that no, they wouldn't be perfectly level, although that wouldn't be visible to the naked eye.  The earth's curvature is so big we can't observe it with the naked eye.

duuuh, sidelines... now please.

We are talking here. We are both making the same assumption for the sake of argument, and you think the assumption is up for debate? Just cool it.

Yet another vote for my proof. Can anyone find a leak yet?

Oh, don't misunderstand. I was laughing at your insult to women. To hell with your proof. :3

By saying "parallel to the earth" you are already assuming the world is flat. Or do you mean tangent to?

Your proof is not backed up. What evidence do you have that shows that 8. is true?

By saying "parallel to the earth" you are already assuming the world is flat. Or do you mean tangent to?

Your proof is not backed up. What evidence do you have that shows that 8. is true?

Must have been a slip, since I think in terms of a flat earth. What I mean is the first home is leveled and is parrallel to the earth at that point. The rest are leveled off of that vector, making it parrallel to the earth if the world is flat, or in tangent to the earth if the earth is round.

Narc on a curve if you tried to level something based on a tangent found 20 miles away the something wouldn't be tangent to the curve anymore....

Quote from: narcberry on April 03, 2007, 12:00:05 PM

Quote from: sokarul on April 03, 2007, 11:56:33 AM

Quote from: narcberry on April 03, 2007, 11:54:48 AM

That is exactly what it is saying, astute observation. I think it is finally clicking with everyone as to why the earth must be flat.

Ok now go do it.  Report back. 
In the mean time I will ask if you know the thought experiment that brought on calculus?

Let me give you a little information about a proof.

A proof is not a conjecture based on emperical evidence. A proof is a guided conclusion based on concepts already accepted as true/ proven. As you follow my proof, you will see that the earth is flat.

To prove a proof wrong, you cannot ask that it be performed. You can disprove it from your little chair. You just need to show how any of its conclusions are faulty. You have failed to do this. So my proof stands.

Accept truth.

yeah ok.  So in other news if a person walks toward a wall they will never hit the wall.  This is because at some point they will have traveled half the distance to the wall.  Then there will be other points that will be half the distance to the wall and the first halfway point.  Thus there will always be a point that is half the distance to the wall no matter how close you are to the wall..  This makes the person never hit the wall.

Add time. Just like Achilles and the Tortoise. This is arithmetic series. The distance gets smaller and smaller...

If you want to prove a flat earth, STOP thinking in terms of it. think in terms of just Earth...btw, throughout this whole thread you are just throwing out all evidence that contradicts your 'proof'. Stop thinking houses first of all. Houses are built a certain way. The only experiment that holds merit here is that laser experiment out on a flat field that someone posted earlier. Do that. Report back. And you will have almost indisputable evidence of a flat earth. Wouldnt you want that? Go do it.

Umm looks like its saying you can use your neighbors house to level yours all the way to Romania.  You would then have to compaire the first and last houses.

OH BUT YOU ARE WRONG MY FRIEND.

If someone is your neighbor, then they would live right next to you.
If your neighbor lives in Romania, then you live in Romania

Due to the curvature of the earth being so slight, you could, realistically, use said neighbors house to level yours.  Theoretically, however, it would not be completely flat.

Quote from: sokarul on April 03, 2007, 11:50:17 AM

Umm looks like its saying you can use your neighbors house to level yours all the way to Romania.  You would then have to compaire the first and last houses.

OH BUT YOU ARE WRONG MY FRIEND.

If someone is your neighbor, then they would live right next to you.
If your neighbor lives in Romania, then you live in Romania

Due to the curvature of the earth being so slight, you could, realistically, use said neighbors house to level yours.  Theoretically, however, it would not be completely flat.

You missed what I was getting at,  comparing the first and last house would show the curvature. 

The earth is round but bumpy, warped, wrinkled and deformed so this proof seems quite full of holes.

If you want to prove a flat earth, STOP thinking in terms of it. think in terms of just Earth...btw, throughout this whole thread you are just throwing out all evidence that contradicts your 'proof'. Stop thinking houses first of all. Houses are built a certain way. The only experiment that holds merit here is that laser experiment out on a flat field that someone posted earlier. Do that. Report back. And you will have almost indisputable evidence of a flat earth. Wouldnt you want that? Go do it.

I agree with the intention of a laser experiment, however the light from a laser will bend as forces act on it. This makes it useless over very long distances. I left the idea of "extending a vector" as theoretical to avoid the confusion to the topic that would arise from including a specific method.

Quote from: EIFR on April 04, 2007, 11:42:35 AM

If you want to prove a flat earth, STOP thinking in terms of it. think in terms of just Earth...btw, throughout this whole thread you are just throwing out all evidence that contradicts your 'proof'. Stop thinking houses first of all. Houses are built a certain way. The only experiment that holds merit here is that laser experiment out on a flat field that someone posted earlier. Do that. Report back. And you will have almost indisputable evidence of a flat earth. Wouldnt you want that? Go do it.

I agree with the intention of a laser experiment, however the light from a laser will bend as forces act on it. This makes it useless over very long distances. I left the idea of "extending a vector" as theoretical to avoid the confusion to the topic that would arise from including a specific method.

Well light is traveling at 3x10^8 m/s so I think the experiment will be fine. 

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Quote from: EIFR on April 04, 2007, 11:42:35 AM

If you want to prove a flat earth, STOP thinking in terms of it. think in terms of just Earth...btw, throughout this whole thread you are just throwing out all evidence that contradicts your 'proof'. Stop thinking houses first of all. Houses are built a certain way. The only experiment that holds merit here is that laser experiment out on a flat field that someone posted earlier. Do that. Report back. And you will have almost indisputable evidence of a flat earth. Wouldnt you want that? Go do it.

I agree with the intention of a laser experiment, however the light from a laser will bend as forces act on it. This makes it useless over very long distances. I left the idea of "extending a vector" as theoretical to avoid the confusion to the topic that would arise from including a specific method.

Well light is traveling at 3x10^8 m/s so I think the experiment will be fine. 

It would work enough to prove my point, yes. I was just trying to avoid having to explain anything about lasers and just focus on the proofs.

Yeah I know you wouldnt want to explain how they can use lasers to tell how far away the sun and moon are. 

Yeah I know you wouldnt want to explain how they can use lasers to tell how far away the sun and moon are. 

I love that topic, it is the perfect example of how people have been confused into believing the round earth theory. But please, stay on topic here.

Quote from: sokarul on April 05, 2007, 02:34:07 PM

Yeah I know you wouldnt want to explain how they can use lasers to tell how far away the sun and moon are. 

I love that topic, it is the perfect example of how people have been confused into believing the round earth theory. But please, stay on topic here.

How can I stay on topic when there is no proof the earth is flat?

Quote from: narcberry on April 05, 2007, 02:37:04 PM

Quote from: sokarul on April 05, 2007, 02:34:07 PM

Yeah I know you wouldnt want to explain how they can use lasers to tell how far away the sun and moon are. 

I love that topic, it is the perfect example of how people have been confused into believing the round earth theory. But please, stay on topic here.

How can I stay on topic when there is no proof the earth is flat?

While we are off-topic, do you ever feel like it's just us two on these forums some times?

Quote from: sokarul on April 05, 2007, 02:38:36 PM

Quote from: narcberry on April 05, 2007, 02:37:04 PM

Quote from: sokarul on April 05, 2007, 02:34:07 PM

Yeah I know you wouldnt want to explain how they can use lasers to tell how far away the sun and moon are. 

I love that topic, it is the perfect example of how people have been confused into believing the round earth theory. But please, stay on topic here.

How can I stay on topic when there is no proof the earth is flat?

While we are off-topic, do you ever feel like it's just us two on these forums some times?

Everyone things this site is a joke.  No one care if a thread goes off topic. 

While we are off-topic, do you ever feel like it's just us two on these forums some times?

Don't worry narc, some of us just watch from the shadows.

*vanishes in a poof of smoke*

Quote from: narcberry on April 05, 2007, 02:42:06 PM

While we are off-topic, do you ever feel like it's just us two on these forums some times?

Don't worry narc, some of us just watch from the shadows.

*vanishes in a poof of smoke*

blast, he's gone again.

With one quick bump, countless others are converted to FE theory.

Next you'll bump the "My kitchen floor is flat, so the Earth is flat" thread right?

Next you'll bump the "My kitchen floor is flat, so the Earth is flat" thread right?

Thats this one.

Oh, I thought one started like that.  Hehe 

Want to do an interesting experiment regarding circles and tangent lines? Lets inscribe a circle in a shape. A square will produce four tangents, an octogon eight, a dodecahedron, twelve. As you increase the number of lines, and the limit approaches infinity, so too does the number of tangent lines. In short, a circle is a polygon with infinite infintesimal sides and angles. Thus, when you take the vectors of these houses, the variation in the angle between them is something extraordinarily tiny (after all, a large house is 20 meters long, and given that the earth's circumfrence 39891240 meters, this creates an angle so infintesimal that we cannot possibly measure it without calculating it. It makes it hard to declare houses to be on the "same vector," especially when the earth's surface is dotted with hills and mountains and rivers and oceans and lakes as well.

Want to do an interesting experiment regarding circles and tangent lines? Lets inscribe a circle in a shape. A square will produce four tangents, an octogon eight, a dodecahedron, twelve. As you increase the number of lines, and the limit approaches infinity, so too does the number of tangent lines. In short, a circle is a polygon with infinite infintesimal sides and angles. Thus, when you take the vectors of these houses, the variation in the angle between them is something extraordinarily tiny (after all, a large house is 20 meters long, and given that the earth's circumfrence 39891240 meters, this creates an angle so infintesimal that we cannot possibly measure it without calculating it. It makes it hard to declare houses to be on the "same vector," especially when the earth's surface is dotted with hills and mountains and rivers and oceans and lakes as well.

Are you saying that two neighbors cannot level their homes on the same vector?