The magical RE "globe"

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #60 on: September 06, 2007, 04:53:54 PM »
The RE with gravity (acceleration force with spherical symetry) and FE with normal acceleration (with plan symetry) are 2 identical spaces (as in conformal geometry - inversive model). In layman terms, there is no difference except perspective angles (and that is minimal because of the suposed large radius of the RE).
So stop the nonsense, none of the theories can prove anything using this aproach...
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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #61 on: September 06, 2007, 04:54:11 PM »
narcberry, you stupid fuck, a globe doesn't create a gravitational force strong enough to hold that rubber ball in place

Agreed, the earth would need to accelerate upwards to create such a force.

I am special.  I accelerate myself downwards to the earth.
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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #62 on: September 06, 2007, 05:02:44 PM »

please understand this. when soembody said the CO2 theory of global warming was a lie. they came up with scientific evendince, research, statements from highly intelectual people. everybody thinks CO2 is the real cause of globa warming, it has made people use up billions of their money but there is a strong arument againts it, and that CO2 is not the real reason for global warming, a TV programme was made (the CO2 scandal) and now all the people are concerened. From what i have seen here, nothing will go futher then this forum. FES on this website is no more factual the quantum theories

I tried to convince Geoguy that in my Global Warming thread, but he still beleives "correlation = cause  LOL!!11."
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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #63 on: September 06, 2007, 06:30:05 PM »
Your spelling brings doubt on that 4 years of advance study.

LOL.

If you noticed the field, it shouldn't bring doubt.

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #64 on: September 06, 2007, 07:36:40 PM »
If you noticed the field, it shouldn't bring doubt.

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2007, 05:48:30 AM »
I was unaware that this stage of the discussion required scientific reasoning. Perhaps you should realise that Narc simply extends his threads with deliberately wrong reasoning. However, your lack of scientific reasoning in your own post ilustrates your worthlessness. Pipe down.

And shut up Narc, at least I don't troll. Although, your particular brand of trolling does demand an answer. I'll try harder to ignore you in future.

Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2007, 04:43:17 PM »
well this is slightly amusing. also a little bit annoying thats this thread has actually gone this far because you let a little ball sit on your floor for hours on end and expected it to fall off the face of the earth and claimed it disproved gravity, which has to be one of the biggest insults to logic ive ever heard.
No problem solved in the least--and you only had to eliminate an entire continent to fail to accomplish it.

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #67 on: September 08, 2007, 04:47:18 PM »
well this is slightly amusing. also a little bit annoying thats this thread has actually gone this far because you let a little ball sit on your floor for hours on end and expected it to fall off the face of the earth and claimed it disproved gravity, which has to be one of the biggest insults to logic ive ever heard.


Do you have any evidence to back up your outlandish claim?
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2007, 02:49:10 PM »
Yeah, we've been getting off, Narc was screwing around in the first place.

Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2007, 07:33:08 PM »
My rubber ball was not stopped by an ocean or any mountains. I was just sitting there, unopposed and yet unmoving.

way to have a bad argument, so your saying that things like rubber balls stay on the earth b/c the earth is flat?  if thats true, then why did the rubber ball stop on a spherical globe?

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #70 on: September 09, 2007, 08:34:13 PM »
My rubber ball was not stopped by an ocean or any mountains. I was just sitting there, unopposed and yet unmoving.

way to have a bad argument, so your saying that things like rubber balls stay on the earth b/c the earth is flat?  if thats true, then why did the rubber ball stop on a spherical globe?

It didn't

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2007, 03:09:55 PM »
So if I were to drop a rubber ball in exactly the same way yo did it would never stop moving?

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #72 on: September 13, 2007, 01:47:16 PM »

please understand this. when soembody said the CO2 theory of global warming was a lie. they came up with scientific evendince, research, statements from highly intelectual people. everybody thinks CO2 is the real cause of globa warming, it has made people use up billions of their money but there is a strong arument againts it, and that CO2 is not the real reason for global warming, a TV programme was made (the CO2 scandal) and now all the people are concerened. From what i have seen here, nothing will go futher then this forum. FES on this website is no more factual the quantum theories

I tried to convince Geoguy that in my Global Warming thread, but he still beleives "correlation = cause  LOL!!11."
http://www.dailytech.com/Blogger+finds+Y2K+bug+in+NASA+Climate+Data/article8383.htm
Quantum Ab Hoc

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #73 on: September 13, 2007, 02:11:53 PM »
This topic is retardelicious.

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #74 on: September 13, 2007, 05:17:28 PM »
This topic is retardelicious.
As is every topic by narcberry.

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #75 on: September 14, 2007, 09:22:32 AM »

please understand this. when soembody said the CO2 theory of global warming was a lie. they came up with scientific evendince, research, statements from highly intelectual people. everybody thinks CO2 is the real cause of globa warming, it has made people use up billions of their money but there is a strong arument againts it, and that CO2 is not the real reason for global warming, a TV programme was made (the CO2 scandal) and now all the people are concerened. From what i have seen here, nothing will go futher then this forum. FES on this website is no more factual the quantum theories

I tried to convince Geoguy that in my Global Warming thread, but he still beleives "correlation = cause  LOL!!11."
http://www.dailytech.com/Blogger+finds+Y2K+bug+in+NASA+Climate+Data/article8383.htm

I loved that article. ^_^
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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2007, 09:26:28 AM »

please understand this. when soembody said the CO2 theory of global warming was a lie. they came up with scientific evendince, research, statements from highly intelectual people. everybody thinks CO2 is the real cause of globa warming, it has made people use up billions of their money but there is a strong arument againts it, and that CO2 is not the real reason for global warming, a TV programme was made (the CO2 scandal) and now all the people are concerened. From what i have seen here, nothing will go futher then this forum. FES on this website is no more factual the quantum theories

I tried to convince Geoguy that in my Global Warming thread, but he still beleives "correlation = cause  LOL!!11."
http://www.dailytech.com/Blogger+finds+Y2K+bug+in+NASA+Climate+Data/article8383.htm

I loved that article. ^_^


Wow. :o   I love how he closes that article too.

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #77 on: September 14, 2007, 09:48:06 AM »
Notice how the y2k bug was identified by a blogger instead of a climate scientist.  Preknowledge of their ineptitude or conspiracy?
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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #78 on: September 19, 2007, 02:08:14 PM »
Y2K was nothing though. Pattern?

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #79 on: September 19, 2007, 03:22:54 PM »
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #80 on: September 21, 2007, 08:19:27 AM »
I got a globe and a rubber bouncy ball for christmas this year. After fiddling with these for a while, I noticed something unusual.

Whenever I sit the rubber ball on the globe, it rolls right off. This thought gave me pause, and I eventually came to the conclusion that the rubber ball should roll off the earth too. So I gave this a try. But it just sat there. I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP. You can try this for yourself. While it should roll right off, it wont.

This is what led to my slow conversion to FE, and I have yet to regret it. I hope others will take the leap I have.

It doesn't roll of the earth because there is no force trying to pull it away from the earth. There's no such thing as up and down in space. It's a construct of the human mind because we've always associated a special direction (up) with the dricrection we feel the ground pushing on us.

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #81 on: September 22, 2007, 11:47:19 AM »
But that doesn't explain the difference between my experience and the actual earth.

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #82 on: September 22, 2007, 12:54:38 PM »
Ok, I am not sure what grade level your at so I'll keep it simple. Gravity is porportional to the mass of of the object exerting it. Therefore since earth far larger then the rubber ball. So therefore the earth's gravity was strong enaugh to pull the ball off the globe and on to the floor (the ball also has gravity but it's to weak to have an effect). Now if earth had no gravity, being that there is no large object below the earth which would pull it to the south part of the globe (globe meaning planet earth). So the ball would float off the surface of the globe and go in a straight line to infinity.

Who's your teacher?

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #83 on: September 24, 2007, 07:52:05 AM »
Who's your teacher?

I hope one day, you could teach me. My knowledge of of english is so poor. Getting some of of your wisdom would help a lot.

Ok, I am not sure what grade level your at so I'll keep it simple. Gravity is porportional to the mass of of the object exerting it.

Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #84 on: September 24, 2007, 08:37:36 AM »
But that doesn't explain the difference between my experience and the actual earth.

Yes it does. Your boncy ball rolls off the earth because a force (gravity) pulls it off. It does not roll off the earth itself because no force pulls it off.

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #85 on: September 24, 2007, 08:39:42 AM »
So you admit, there was "no force." Well we finally agree, there is no gravity. It fell past the little earth, just like it wants to fall past the real earth, if only it were curved to allow such a thing.

Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #86 on: September 24, 2007, 08:47:15 AM »
So you admit, there was "no force." Well we finally agree, there is no gravity. It fell past the little earth, just like it wants to fall past the real earth, if only it were curved to allow such a thing.

Smarticus, you'll notice that I referred to gravity in my first setence.

Yo uare trying to construct an analogy between a globe and the earth. The globe is not an isolated system because the gravity of a larger body is interacting with it very nearby relative to the globe's radius. The earth is essentially isolated system for this point because there is NOT a larger body very nearby relative to the earth's radius to create the gravity to pull the ball off the earth. This is where your analogy breaks down.

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Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #87 on: September 24, 2007, 09:33:16 AM »
Shut up... just shut up.

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you had me at "yo uare."

Re: The magical RE "globe"
« Reply #88 on: September 24, 2007, 09:35:29 AM »
I'll take that as an admission that you are wrong. I'll keep bumping the aviation thread though.