Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica

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Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« on: March 16, 2007, 12:08:46 PM »
Qantas air plane company in Australia offers over flights of Antarctica

http://www-aadc.aad.gov.au/default.asp?casid=26999

http://www.antarcticconnection.com/antarctic/travel/getthere.shtml

Why would the government allow such overflights over Antarctica? Don't they know the people on these flights could expose there secret.

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Tom Bishop

Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2007, 12:53:26 PM »
Flights along the Ice Wall prove nothing.

Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2007, 12:56:31 PM »
Flights along the Ice Wall prove nothing.

But if the Earth is flat why cant the people see of the edge?

Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2007, 01:02:03 PM »
Flights along the Ice Wall prove nothing.
Won't they see the guards and their guard stations, possibly get shot down?

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Tom Bishop

Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2007, 01:05:59 PM »
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But if the Earth is flat why cant the people see of the edge?

Because there is a good deal of landmass between the Ice Wall and the supposed edge of the earth. Thousands of miles, in fact. That amount of air density would obscure view.

Besides, considering that no one has ever seen edge, it's quite possible that the lands beyond Antarctica are infinite, stretching perpetually into the distance.

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Won't they see the guards and their guard stations, possibly get shot down?

Only Diego Drew believes in an army of Ice Wall Guards stationed at the edges of the earth.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2007, 02:28:52 PM by Tom Bishop »

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2007, 01:57:04 PM »
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But if the Earth is flat why cant the people see of the edge?

Because there is a good deal of landmass between the Ice Wall and the supposed edge of the earth. Thousands of miles, in fact. That amount of air density would obscure view.

Besides, considering that no one has ever seen earth, it's quite possible that the lands beyond Antarctica are infinite, stretching perpetually into the distance.

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Won't they see the guards and their guard stations, possibly get shot down?

Only Diego Drew believes in an army of Ice Wall Guards stationed at the edges of the earth.

So then what on earth prevents people from visiting the great wall of ice?
If it were true, someone would have noticed by now. Last I checked there is a geographic south pole.
Why hold on to a fanatical belief when facts laughs at you?

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Tom Bishop

Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2007, 01:58:41 PM »
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So then what on earth prevents people from visiting the great wall of ice?
If it were true, someone would have noticed by now. Last I checked there is a geographic south pole.

Nothing is stopping you from venturing beyond the Ice Wall. Feel free.

Don't expect anyone to believe your tales when you return, however.

Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2007, 02:24:28 PM »
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So then what on earth prevents people from visiting the great wall of ice?
If it were true, someone would have noticed by now. Last I checked there is a geographic south pole.

Nothing is stopping you from venturing beyond the Ice Wall. Feel free.

Don't expect anyone to believe your tales when you return, however.

Thats why there is cameras.

Kind of hard to imagine with no guards protecting the ice wall that no one stumbled upon proof of the FE and took a picture.

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Tom Bishop

Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2007, 02:26:58 PM »
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Thats why there is cameras.

Kind of hard to imagine with no guards protecting the ice wall that no one stumbled upon proof of the FE and took a picture.

Sure they have. Why do you think the Flat Earth Society started?

Due to dogma about the shape of the world, no amount of evidence for a Flat Earth will make the news.

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2007, 02:29:16 PM »
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Thats why there is cameras.

Kind of hard to imagine with no guards protecting the ice wall that no one stumbled upon proof of the FE and took a picture.

Sure they have. Why do you think the Flat Earth Society started?

Due to dogma about the shape of the world, no amount of evidence for a Flat Earth will make the news.


Ooh, can we see these pictures that started the FES?  I thought it was just a British guy a couple decades ago that took the Bible literally.
Some people are ****ing stupid! ~ George Carlin

Mathematical proof of the flat Earth:
[{(Diameter of Earth)*(tan[distance from Earth to sun/distance from North pole to equator])}2]/0

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2007, 02:44:41 PM »
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Thats why there is cameras.

Kind of hard to imagine with no guards protecting the ice wall that no one stumbled upon proof of the FE and took a picture.

Sure they have. Why do you think the Flat Earth Society started?

Due to dogma about the shape of the world, no amount of evidence for a Flat Earth will make the news.


There have been expeditions across the south pole for nearly a century now. Not once has anyone claimed they never got across.
You alco forget the numerous research stations on the south pole.
Why hold on to a fanatical belief when facts laughs at you?

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Tom Bishop

Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2007, 02:49:46 PM »
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There have been expeditions across the south pole for nearly a century now. Not once has anyone claimed they never got across.

Any tale of a journey across Antarctica is really a piece of self deception. Explorers often fool themselves when believing they've made a transcontinental journey across Antarctica. After passing Magnetic South the common explorer will follow his compass back north. Unless the explorer is traveling at a perfect Rimward angle, his course will take him in a large semicircle back to the coast.

With the Antarctic conditions and the amount of pure white snow, it is hard to tell if travels are taking one in a straight line. An explorer has only his compass to rely on.

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You alco forget the numerous research stations on the south pole.

I don't see why automated research stations cannot exist along the coast of the Ice Wall.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2007, 02:56:59 PM by Tom Bishop »

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2007, 03:06:35 PM »
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There have been expeditions across the south pole for nearly a century now. Not once has anyone claimed they never got across.

Any tale of a journey across Antarctica is really a piece of self deception. Explorers often fool themselves when believing they've made a transcontinental journey across Antarctica. After passing Magnetic South the common explorer will follow his compass back north. Unless the explorer is traveling at a perfect Rimward angle, his course will take him in a large semicircle back to the coast.

With the Antarctic conditions and the amount of pure white snow, it is hard to tell if travels are taking one in a straight line. An explorer has only his compass to rely on.
Most explorers use the stars or the sun to find their bearings. Also, the magnetic south pole is out in open sea at 64.53°S and 137.86°E, just off the coast of Wilkes Land (the coast of Antarctica which borders on the Indian Ocean).
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You alco forget the numerous research stations on the south pole.

I don't see why automated research stations cannot exist along the coast of the Ice Wall.

The research stations are not automated.
This is the Admundsen-Scott South Pole station:
Why hold on to a fanatical belief when facts laughs at you?

Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2007, 03:28:30 PM »
Lol fantastic. Notice now there is suddenly hundreds of miles of land after the wall and somehow the air is really dense there too. Tom, don't bother if you have nothing plausible to offer, seriously you're troll answers are getting really old.

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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2007, 08:27:04 PM »
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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2007, 08:45:31 PM »
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Thats why there is cameras.

Kind of hard to imagine with no guards protecting the ice wall that no one stumbled upon proof of the FE and took a picture.

Sure they have. Why do you think the Flat Earth Society started?

Due to dogma about the shape of the world, no amount of evidence for a Flat Earth will make the news.


Ooh, can we see these pictures that started the FES?  I thought it was just a British guy a couple decades ago that took the Bible literally.

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Mathematical proof of the flat Earth:
[{(Diameter of Earth)*(tan[distance from Earth to sun/distance from North pole to equator])}2]/0

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2007, 08:49:06 PM »
The research stations are not automated.
This is the Admundsen-Scott South Pole station:


OR...It's a station in the middle of a snowy place...

~D-Draw

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2007, 08:57:20 PM »
The research stations are not automated.
This is the Admundsen-Scott South Pole station:


OR...It's a station in the middle of a snowy place...

~D-Draw
If that helps you sleep at night. ::)
Why hold on to a fanatical belief when facts laughs at you?

Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2007, 09:23:46 PM »
The research stations are not automated.
This is the Admundsen-Scott South Pole station:


OR...It's a station in the middle of a snowy place...

~D-Draw

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2007, 10:52:37 PM »
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But if the Earth is flat why cant the people see of the edge?

Because there is a good deal of landmass between the Ice Wall and the supposed edge of the earth. Thousands of miles, in fact. That amount of air density would obscure view.
And you know this, because..?
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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2007, 11:23:26 PM »
Okay Tom if there is an ice wall would the perimeter be much larger than the edge of Antarctica? We can relatively easily measure that distance....
Haha Tom is so funny. He can't be serious, no one is that stubborn or dumb.

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2007, 11:31:15 PM »
The research stations are not automated.
This is the Admundsen-Scott South Pole station:


OR...It's a station in the middle of a snowy place...

~D-Draw
Yes, D-Draw, the South Pole does have snow. ;)
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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2007, 11:37:56 PM »
The research stations are not automated.
This is the Admundsen-Scott South Pole station:
[Image removes to save space  ;)]

OR...It's a station in the middle of a snowy place...

~D-Draw
Yes, D-Draw, the South Pole does have snow. ;)
You mean the ice wall.
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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2007, 11:40:08 PM »
The research stations are not automated.
This is the Admundsen-Scott South Pole station:
[Image removes to save space  ;)]

OR...It's a station in the middle of a snowy place...

~D-Draw
Yes, D-Draw, the South Pole does have snow. ;)
You mean the ice wall.

You mean Antarctica, the distance around is much too small to be the diameter of the disk.... or have you not measured it to find out if it was big enough yet?
Haha Tom is so funny. He can't be serious, no one is that stubborn or dumb.

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2007, 01:30:22 PM »
So then has anyone from FE measured this distance to determine it? Cause at first I was told that there were armed guards there. Though apparently only Diego Draw believes this meaning it shouldn't be part of FE. So then why can't you measure the distance around the Ice Wall? It should be vastly different than the circumference of Antarctica.

Circumference of Antarctica ~ 20000 kms

Circumference of Ice Wall    ~  62000 kms

Should be pretty easy for you to prove yourselves with this don't you think?
Haha Tom is so funny. He can't be serious, no one is that stubborn or dumb.

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Tom Bishop

Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2007, 01:47:01 PM »
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So then has anyone from FE measured this distance to determine it? Cause at first I was told that there were armed guards there. Though apparently only Diego Draw believes this meaning it shouldn't be part of FE.


That is correct. Not all FE Proponents believe in a Ice Guard Army stationed at the edges of the earth.

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So then why can't you measure the distance around the Ice Wall? It should be vastly different than the circumference of Antarctica.

The Ice Wall was first discovered by Sir James Clark Ross in 1841 in search of the Southern Magnetic Pole. From his records and journals we know that the distance around the Ice Wall is considerable, stretching perpetually in every direction. Ross and his expeditionary team searched vainly for a southern passage to the Southern Magnetic Pole. In the end Ross was defeated by its vastness, returning home in defeat.

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Should be pretty easy for you to prove yourselves with this don't you think?

Today the Ice Wall is open to all explorers who dare venture. In the past many Antarctic explorers have gone missing. Presumably they've gone lost and missing due to the inaccuracy of the Round Earth maps.

Feel free to commission a massive ship to Antarctica and discover the true distance around the Ice Wall for yourself.
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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2007, 01:49:59 PM »


The Ice Wall was first discovered by Sir James Clark Ross in 1841 in search of the Southern Magnetic Pole. From his records and journals we know that the distance around the Ice Wall is considerable, stretching perpetually in every direction. Ross and his expeditionary team searched vainly for a southern passage to the Southern Magnetic Pole. In the end Ross was defeated by its vastness, returning home in defeat.



And nobody has ever been back since... ::)

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2007, 02:02:19 PM »
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And nobody has ever been back since... ::)

There have been many trips to the Ice Wall since 1841. The majority of these trips have been simple come-and-go trips, however.

Not many people have dared traverse the infinite plane of frozen tundra. The ones who have tried either had gone forever missing or got turned around and made a big semicircle back to the coast due the magnetic layout. Any books or reports you might read of a transcontinental Antarctic excursion are either genuine mistakes or outright hoaxes.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2007, 02:03:58 PM by Tom Bishop »

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2007, 03:41:48 PM »
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And nobody has ever been back since... ::)

There have been many trips to the Ice Wall since 1841. The majority of these trips have been simple come-and-go trips, however.

Not many people have dared traverse the infinite plane of frozen tundra. The ones who have tried either had gone forever missing or got turned around and made a big semicircle back to the coast due the magnetic layout. Any books or reports you might read of a transcontinental Antarctic excursion are either genuine mistakes or outright hoaxes.

Where did I say traverse? I said measure it's circumference. I even worked out the approximate distance you should get. Set a flag every 100 kms and sail around until you get to the first flag again. It will be an approximation but it will be close enough to tell if it's 20000 kms or 62000 kms, or if you're an idiot around 200 flags = round earth around 620 flags = flat earth.
Haha Tom is so funny. He can't be serious, no one is that stubborn or dumb.

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Re: Qantas offers overflights of Antarctica
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2007, 03:43:50 PM »
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And nobody has ever been back since... ::)

There have been many trips to the Ice Wall since 1841. The majority of these trips have been simple come-and-go trips, however.

Not many people have dared traverse the infinite plane of frozen tundra. The ones who have tried either had gone forever missing or got turned around and made a big semicircle to the coast due the magnetic layout. Any books or reports you might read of a transcontinental Antarctic excursion are either genuine mistakes or outright hoaxes.

How convenient. Any books or reports you have read about the Earth being flat are mistakes or hoaxes. Ther you go we can close the website down now.
It sucks then that the magnetic north pole is out in the open sea.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2007, 03:50:46 PM by Matrixfart »
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