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YL Groper

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Please Explain....
« on: March 15, 2007, 01:24:41 PM »
The transit of Mercury (or Venus). Please explain how we can view a planet passing between us and the sun if the sun is only 3000 miles away.

http://www.exploratorium.edu/transit/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_of_Mercury

Please provide thought out scientific explanations only. If someone says "optical illusion" because they are too dumb and bullshit to think up anything better on the spot, then expect that we will all treat you as if you are retarded and own this moronic drunken chicken scratch on a bar napkin that you call a theory/belief.
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2007, 01:26:07 PM »
Mercury and Venus are closer to the earth than the sun. Easy as that.
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2007, 01:35:16 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 15, 2007, 01:26:07 PM
Mercury and Venus are closer to the earth than the sun. Easy as that.

What are the distances of these planets from Earth?
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2007, 01:53:51 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 15, 2007, 01:26:07 PM
Mercury and Venus are closer to the earth than the sun. Easy as that.

Size of Mercury = 3031 miles in diameter

Size of Venus = 7522 Miles in Diameter (just a bit smaller then earth)

I dont see what is easy about fitting more then 10,000 miles of spherical mass through a 3000 mile space. When they appear to be tiny dots to the naked eye, that is simply amazing.

In other words...Dum dum dum dum dum
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2007, 01:56:47 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 15, 2007, 01:26:07 PM
Mercury and Venus are closer to the earth than the sun. Easy as that.

Btw. I said to post only real, thought out explanations. Your explanation is the most idiotic i have seen on this site today.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2007, 01:58:29 PM »
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Btw. I said to post only real, thought out explanations. Your explanation is the most idiotic i have seen on this site today.

Obviously the planets were misjudged in size and distance like the sun was.

Read Earth Not a Globe and stop posting idiot questions.
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2007, 01:59:59 PM »
Oh Tom, give him a proper answer so he'll stop whinging for a bit.
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2007, 02:01:37 PM »
So how big is Venus and Mercury, Tom?

Are you going to try and top today' stupidest reply, or are you going to choose what is in the mystery box?
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2007, 02:03:18 PM »
Good luck getting an answer..

Personally I'd go for whats in the box
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2007, 02:05:39 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 15, 2007, 01:58:29 PM
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Btw. I said to post only real, thought out explanations. Your explanation is the most idiotic i have seen on this site today.

Obviously the planets were misjudged in size and distance like the sun was.

Read Earth Not a Globe and stop posting idiot questions.
what if they can't get a copy?
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YL Groper

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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2007, 02:09:07 PM »
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Btw. I said to post only real, thought out explanations. Your explanation is the most idiotic i have seen on this site today.

Read Earth Not a Globe and stop posting idiot questions.

No need. Simple mathematics proves that based off what you have just stated, You're the idiot.

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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2007, 02:21:31 PM »
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No need. Simple mathematics proves that based off what you have just stated, You're the idiot.

http://tom%20bishop.justgotowned.com/

Which mathematics are these? I don't see any mathematics.

Samuel Birley Robotham has already accurately calculated the figures for Mercury and Venus:

Mercury
Diameter: 1,056 feet
Closest Distance: 1839.6 miles from sea-level

Venus
Diameter: 1,584 feet
Closest Distance: 839 miles from sea-level

Consult Earth Not a Globe for further details.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2007, 02:25:48 PM by Tom Bishop »
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2007, 02:23:12 PM »
Tiny planets!
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2007, 02:29:52 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 15, 2007, 02:21:31 PM
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No need. Simple mathematics proves that based off what you have just stated, You're the idiot.

http://tom%20bishop.justgotowned.com/

Which mathematics are these? I don't see any mathematics.

Samuel Birley Robotham has already accurately calculated the figures for Mercury and Venus:

Mercury
Diameter: 1,056 feet
Distance: 1839.6 miles from sea-level

Venus
Diameter: 1,584 feet
Distance: 839 miles from sea-level

Consult Earth Not a Globe for further details.

and Im so sure you can count with old Robotham's d#ck in your mouth.

Your a real primate. Show your work Tom, prove it. You cant be this dumb. I understand if your getting a kick out of making people think you are jaded enough to believe something so ridiculous, but you don't have to make yourself look like a 10th grade, D averaging moron in the process.

Come on tom, Man up!

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YL Groper

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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2007, 02:33:14 PM »
I apologize. I know youre just joking. I did not mean to get this mean. I realized when i re read this after my last post.

I know that you are just messing with people and it is a joke to you. I am sorry. I just dont know how to respond to someone who is so bad at putting on his own show.

i would boo and throw trash if this was live.

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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2007, 02:42:29 PM »
How can some crackpot religious zealot from the 1800's calculate the size and distance of objects in space but the greatest minds of the past several 100 years cannot?
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2007, 02:43:58 PM »
Through magic?

Sometimes I wonder whether Tom is joking or not..maybe he really does believe it.
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2007, 02:45:31 PM »
At least he trys to give answers, I suppose you have to give him some credit for that.
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Tom Bishop

Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2007, 02:45:52 PM »
Quote from: kasroa on March 15, 2007, 02:42:29 PM
How can some crackpot religious zealot from the 1800's calculate the size and distance of objects in space but the greatest minds of the past several 100 years cannot?

If you bothered to, oh I don't know, read the book that's linked on here one hundred times a day you'd find out. The full work is available for free online. You don't have to buy it.

Samuel Birley Robotham also predicts Tectonic Shifting over one hundred years before it is discovered.
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2007, 02:46:22 PM »
Oh, i almost forgot during my belly laughs.


Google search Tom, its pretty simple. Here is a couple link for jr. high students to figure these types of things out.

http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/sunearthday/2004/2004images/VT_Activity3.pdf

http://curriculum.calstatela.edu/courses/builders/lessons/less/les1/kepler3_2.html

Small scale for little kids going into science fairs (to scale) http://www.wsanford.com/~wsanford/exo/model_solsys.html


There you go, big guy. That should be a good start for you. If you need more, check out google dot com. I cant hold your hand forever, sport.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2007, 02:49:03 PM »
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Google search Tom, its pretty simple. Here is a couple link for jr. high students to figure these types of things out.

Each of those equations relies on a far away sun. If the distance from the sun changes, the distance from the planets change. You really should read what you post.

Please show me how we can accurately measure the distance between the Earth and Sun and get the Round Earth figure. I've been searching for years and have found no explanation for its size or distance.

By replicating the simple experiment in Chapter 5 of Earth Not a Globe I've followed the steps of Samuel Birley Robotham, coming to the conclusion of a close sun.
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YL Groper

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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2007, 03:02:04 PM »
Its triangulation Tom. That's what the links are for, tiger. Simple geometry derived from the data formulated off a each planet's year (full rotation around the sun). This is easy stuff.

Listen, if you dont pay attention is class, you're not going to be allowed to graduate. That means, no senor prom, no senor trip, no class ring...

You're owned little guy. Go fix me a turkey sandwich and study your math. Im not going to be your 9th grade math tutor forever.
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2007, 03:13:32 PM »
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Its triangulation Tom. That's what the links are for, tiger. Simple geometry derived from the data formulated off a each planet's year (full rotation around the sun). This is easy stuff.

Nope, sorry scum shit.

Each of those estimates are based on the distance between the earth and sun. If it becomes reality that the sun is thrice as far away as we thought, the planets and their orbits become much bigger than we thought. If the sun is closer than we thought, the planets shrink. Every understanding we have about the Solar System all comes down to the distance between the Sun and Earth.

If you cannot show me, or link me to, one piece of evidence that suggests that the sun is 92,955,887.6 miles away then you should stop posting here. You have provided zero evidence for your claims while I have shown you the precise measurements conducted by Samuel Birley Robotham.
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YL Groper

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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2007, 03:34:42 PM »
I know it hurts to be wrong Tom, but im not going to stop posting and showing everyone that you think its funny to mess with them. You clearly haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. I mean.....its clear, we all can see this. The math you are quoting is wrong. It wouldnt matter anyway because you dont have the work to show. You are speaking on things you dont understand, you look like a fool.

Triangulation Tom. The numbers in any 5th grade text book fit, Tom. When,......You dont even have numbers. Where are your numbers Tom? show us how everything works with them. Its ok if you cant.....We already know you cant. Im just dragging this out to make an even bigger fool out of you. Your stolen, worshipped, inaccurate math, does not fit. Your science is out of date. Set in place by a tiny group of uninformed attention whores.

I know your line, "Your explanations on gravity are over 500 years old" no tom, we have been learning and gathering data from the jump. We are still learning. Only you are stuck in the old days because you are too ashamed to admit you were hustled into believing a bad idea. Its ok man, you are a sucker. You dont have to be one forever.

The truth about these "scholars" you quote, is that they were just excellent debaters. Salesmen Tom. You got sold on a throwaway concept. Let it go man, we all get taken advantage of in life from time to time. You just are willing to make the world see that its not that you are gullible, you are an idiot.

And now.....You're owned
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YL Groper

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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2007, 03:38:20 PM »
Ive seen tighter rappers on candy bars, Tom.
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2007, 03:58:57 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 15, 2007, 02:21:31 PM
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No need. Simple mathematics proves that based off what you have just stated, You're the idiot.

http://tom%20bishop.justgotowned.com/

Which mathematics are these? I don't see any mathematics.

Samuel Birley Robotham has already accurately calculated the figures for Mercury and Venus:

Mercury
Diameter: 1,056 feet
Closest Distance: 1839.6 miles from sea-level

Venus
Diameter: 1,584 feet
Closest Distance: 839 miles from sea-level

Consult Earth Not a Globe for further details.

I cant find these figures from your source, but I will continue looking and update later.

Plus, how can we observe these planets between the sun and earth if, according to FE, the sun is approximately 700 miles from Earth?
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2007, 04:01:42 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 15, 2007, 01:58:29 PM
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Btw. I said to post only real, thought out explanations. Your explanation is the most idiotic i have seen on this site today.

Obviously the planets were misjudged in size and distance like the sun was.

Read Earth Not a Globe and stop posting idiot questions.
STFU you worthless piece of shit.  I am getting tired of this.  YOU ARE NOT AN ASTRONOMER.  You don't know.  The guy that wrote that book was not an astronomer either.  The have ways of proving things size.  Step outside of your micro world and see the universe is freaking huge.
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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2007, 04:05:13 PM »
The guy also based his entire workings on his religious beliefs, nothing else.
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2007, 04:45:26 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 15, 2007, 03:13:32 PM
You have provided zero evidence for your claims while I have shown you the precise measurements conducted by Samuel Birley Robotham.

His measurements were obtained due to triangulation.  However, he does not state to what degree these measurements are affected by refraction.
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Re: Please Explain....
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2007, 04:47:05 PM »
Its all about how i just son'ed Tom

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