"Earthhrise"

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Re: "Earthhrise"
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2007, 05:48:17 PM »
uh uh fucking moron even if earth is accelerating the laws of physics are real say your in a car you through a apple up a little and the cars moving while you do it does the apple smack you ? no..

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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2007, 05:48:25 PM »
You don't have to keep up you just go into orbit.

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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2007, 05:49:10 PM »
uh uh fucking moron even with earths acceleration the laws of physics are real say your in a car you through a apple up a little and the cars moving while you do it does the apple smack you ? no..

If the car is accelerating it would hit you yes.

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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2007, 05:49:53 PM »
yea but im talking constant speed as stated in the faq my bad

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Re: "Earthhrise"
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2007, 05:50:25 PM »
yea but im talking constant speed as stated in the faq my bad
The earth has a constant acceleration.


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Re: "Earthhrise"
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2007, 05:55:59 PM »
what are you taking about pounds per square is thrust in this case. The gas and solid fuel is hyper compressed

TRUST=the force in a direction
pounds per square foot isnt direction dependent

you need not worry about running out of fuel tell your out of the atmosphere

You're an idiot. No rocket could keep up with the Earth's acceleration.
Except the gravitational force of the earth diminishes with distance, so that rockets can escape the gravitational pull or go into orbit.
Why hold on to a fanatical belief when facts laughs at you?

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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2007, 06:27:53 PM »
You've analyzed all the technology of their designs that are patented?  For some reason I doubt it...
I don't have to.  The simple fact that a ship has to maintain an acceleration of 1g means that there must be mass constantly ejected from the ship.  That's a lot of mass to have to carry with them.  That would make for a very large, very heavy ship.  One which would probably not get off the ground.
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1) Yes you do have to.  You're the one trying to disprove generally accepted knowledge.  In order to successfully do so, you have to show why their designs would be unable to make it outside of the atmosphere.  You can't just claim something and support it with further speculation, as you just did.
2) Why would you have to constantly eject mass from the ship?  Couldn't you just be propelled by very powerful chemical reactions that release large amounts of energy?

http://library.thinkquest.org/03oct/01581/SpaceTravelEnglish/propulsion/currenttechnology.html
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« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2007, 07:21:48 PM »
1) Yes you do have to.  You're the one trying to disprove generally accepted knowledge.  In order to successfully do so, you have to show why their designs would be unable to make it outside of the atmosphere.  You can't just claim something and support it with further speculation, as you just did.
I said nothing about making it out of the atmosphere, I said staying out of it, which would require a bunch of mass to eject.

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2) Why would you have to constantly eject mass from the ship?
Otherwise, the ship won't go anywhere.

Thanks for the link, but you are the one who needs to read it.


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« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2007, 07:41:33 PM »
I said nothing about making it out of the atmosphere, I said staying out of it, which would require a bunch of mass to eject.

So you agree that we've been outside of the atmosphere? Unless you're still trying to disprove patented technology?

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Thanks for the link, but you are the one who needs to read it.

Logically, that should be followed by a quote from the website, showing why what I'm saying is invalid.  Illogically, you should leave it as is.

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Re: "Earthhrise"
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2007, 08:13:32 PM »
2) Why would you have to constantly eject mass from the ship?
Otherwise, the ship won't go anywhere.


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Re: "Earthhrise"
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2007, 08:17:19 PM »
How about you answer my post...
I said nothing about making it out of the atmosphere, I said staying out of it, which would require a bunch of mass to eject.

So you agree that we've been outside of the atmosphere? Unless you're still trying to disprove patented technology?

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Thanks for the link, but you are the one who needs to read it.

Logically, that should be followed by a quote from the website, showing why what I'm saying is invalid.  Illogically, you should leave it as is.

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Re: "Earthhrise"
« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2007, 08:19:24 PM »
How about you answer my post...
I said nothing about making it out of the atmosphere, I said staying out of it, which would require a bunch of mass to eject.

So you agree that we've been outside of the atmosphere? Unless you're still trying to disprove patented technology?

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Thanks for the link, but you are the one who needs to read it.

Logically, that should be followed by a quote from the website, showing why what I'm saying is invalid.  Illogically, you should leave it as is.
1. Yes.
2. I told you, if you don't eject mass, the ship won't go anywhere.


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Re: "Earthhrise"
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2007, 11:26:38 PM »
You ignored my post.  If you got out of the way of the earth, would space travel be possible?  The earth would leave us behind, but we could still travel correct?

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« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2007, 11:31:18 PM »
You ignored my post.  If you got out of the way of the earth, would space travel be possible?  The earth would leave us behind, but we could still travel correct?
Yes, but you couldn't get back.


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« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2007, 11:34:29 PM »
You ignored my post.  If you got out of the way of the earth, would space travel be possible?  The earth would leave us behind, but we could still travel correct?
Yes, but you couldn't get back.

Then it is indeed possible.

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« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2007, 11:45:23 PM »
Sure, as long as you don't like living.


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« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2007, 02:00:10 AM »
Sure, as long as you don't like living.

But it is possible then.

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« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2007, 02:20:54 AM »
>>>You're an idiot. No rocket could keep up with the Earth's acceleration.<<<


Good Evening Tom,

Have you ever lifted a match from a table?
Congratulations you have just over come gravity.

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Re: "Earthhrise"
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2007, 09:52:10 AM »
We are taking about maintaining the acceleration.  Good job keeping up with the conversation.


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Re: "Earthhrise"
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2007, 05:31:03 PM »
Yes the all magical UA that has infinite energy.  Even though energy is never created or destroyed.
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It's no slur if it's fact.

Re: "Earthhrise"
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2007, 05:31:47 PM »
No the UA is powered by it's own acceleration!