The tides

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Matrixfart

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Re: The tides
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2007, 03:45:47 PM »
If these so-called calculations are correct, then why hasn't the supposed "Round Earth" imploded by now? Ridiculous. Is this the best Round Earthers can do?
Perhaps because the earth is not hollow?
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Re: The tides
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2007, 04:05:00 PM »
Hmm, it would be nice to see some math to back that up.

I would like to see the math they use to calculate the tides. 
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Re: The tides
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2007, 04:24:23 PM »
Hmm, it would be nice to see some math to back that up.
In The Anthropic Cosmological Principle, Barrow and Tipler make a rough calculation for the height a solid quartz mountain could reach under Earth's gravity before its base deformed plasticly: ~30km.

If these so-called calculations are correct, then why hasn't the supposed "Round Earth" imploded by now? Ridiculous. Is this the best Round Earthers can do?
So because you don't know the calculations behind it, it is rediculous... Alrighty then. And like Matrixfart says, the Earth isn't hollow, so before throwing in cool-sounding words like "implosion" maybe you should get familiar with what they actually mean. I wouldn't have responded this bluntly, but your lack of humility about your own ignorance merrits a blunt rebuttal.
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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2007, 05:25:34 PM »
The Earth isn't hollow either way, so your argument is silly. There's no reason for mountains to collapse on the Infinite Plane, since the Plane has a pretty damn deep and solid foundation.
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Re: The tides
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2007, 05:31:47 PM »
There is no up or down in the universe, Franc. It doesn't matter which direction mass expands from the center, the middle of the earth is the center of gravity. All the mass will be pulled towards the center (since the weight of it is too much to support it). The earth would crumple up to a ball. Or a sphere. A round earth. You see what I mean?

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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2007, 05:33:43 PM »
There is no up or down in the universe, Franc. It doesn't matter which direction mass expands from the center, the middle of the earth is the center of gravity. All the mass will be pulled towards the center (since the weight of it is too much to support it). The earth would crumple up to a ball. Or a sphere. A round earth. You see what I mean?

Don't be ridiculous. An infinite plane cannot collapse, since it has as much gravity towards one side than another- both are infinite. Once again, physics 101...
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« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2007, 05:59:31 PM »
Don't be ridiculous. An infinite plane cannot collapse, since it has as much gravity towards one side than another- both are infinite. Once again, physics 101...
An infinite plane (of mass) is not a physical concept, and so in that sense you're correct. Something non-existent cannot collapse in objective reality.

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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2007, 06:04:56 PM »
Don't be ridiculous. An infinite plane cannot collapse, since it has as much gravity towards one side than another- both are infinite. Once again, physics 101...
An infinite plane (of mass) is not a physical concept, and so in that sense you're correct. Something non-existent cannot collapse in objective reality.

The Earth does not exist? Don't be silly.
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Re: The tides
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2007, 06:07:34 PM »
Don't be ridiculous. An infinite plane cannot collapse, since it has as much gravity towards one side than another- both are infinite. Once again, physics 101...
An infinite plane (of mass) is not a physical concept, and so in that sense you're correct. Something non-existent cannot collapse in objective reality.

The Earth does not exist? Don't be silly.
Infinite is not a liked term.  For the Earth to be infinite then there would be infinite of every element and there would be infinite energy.  Both are not infinite.  Even the universe isn't infinite to most astronomers.
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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2007, 06:12:20 PM »
Well, of course most astronomers don't believe it, they have been indoctrinated to believe otherwise.
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Re: The tides
« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2007, 06:19:31 PM »
Don't be ridiculous. An infinite plane cannot collapse, since it has as much gravity towards one side than another- both are infinite. Once again, physics 101...
An infinite plane (of mass) is not a physical concept, and so in that sense you're correct. Something non-existent cannot collapse in objective reality.

The Earth does not exist? Don't be silly.
Only two things are infinite. The Earth isn't one of them.

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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2007, 06:21:59 PM »
Don't be ridiculous. An infinite plane cannot collapse, since it has as much gravity towards one side than another- both are infinite. Once again, physics 101...
An infinite plane (of mass) is not a physical concept, and so in that sense you're correct. Something non-existent cannot collapse in objective reality.

The Earth does not exist? Don't be silly.
Only two things are infinite. The Earth isn't one of them.

Human stupidity is infinite, and Round Earthers provide constant examples of this on our board.
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Re: The tides
« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2007, 06:23:52 PM »
Don't be ridiculous. An infinite plane cannot collapse, since it has as much gravity towards one side than another- both are infinite. Once again, physics 101...
An infinite plane (of mass) is not a physical concept, and so in that sense you're correct. Something non-existent cannot collapse in objective reality.

The Earth does not exist? Don't be silly.
Only two things are infinite. The Earth isn't one of them.

Human stupidity is infinite, and Round Earthers provide constant examples of this on our board.

Human stupidity affects all, not just REers.  :)
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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2007, 06:26:40 PM »
Very true. Some FEers also manifest stupid stubbornness in believing in the silly "Accelerating Coin" model. Anyone can see the Earth cannot be finite.
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Re: The tides
« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2007, 06:30:51 PM »
Anyone can see the Earth cannot be finite.
...When trippin' on acid.

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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2007, 06:34:37 PM »
Anyone can see the Earth cannot be finite.
...When trippin' on acid.

Stop projecting. Many REers who post here are obviously hopped-up on pot and cocaine. I, for one, am against the taking of all drugs (but am also against the War on Drugs, because of its enormous costs in freedom, resources and lives).
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« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2007, 06:39:22 PM »
I, for one, am against the taking of all drugs (but am also against the War on Drugs, because of its enormous costs in freedom, resources and lives).
There we go. Making sense at last. Though we digress.

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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #47 on: March 17, 2007, 06:40:31 PM »
I, for one, am against the taking of all drugs (but am also against the War on Drugs, because of its enormous costs in freedom, resources and lives).
There we go. Making sense at last. Though we digress.

Everything I say makes sense. When it doesn't seem like it, it's mostly because of your indoctrinated beliefs. I am sometimes wrong about things and correct myself, but because I find new information.
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« Reply #48 on: March 17, 2007, 06:43:11 PM »
I, for one, am against the taking of all drugs (but am also against the War on Drugs, because of its enormous costs in freedom, resources and lives).
There we go. Making sense at last. Though we digress.

Everything I say makes sense. When it doesn't seem like it, it's mostly because of your indoctrinated beliefs. I am sometimes wrong about things and correct myself, but because I find new information.

I was just begining to think you had some sense to you, but after that, um no.  Sounds like something my dad would say.  Except hes a bit better at hiding his arrogance. Just a bit.
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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #49 on: March 17, 2007, 06:45:19 PM »
I am not arrogant. I am quite aware that there are plenty of things I am ignorant about, and that's why I hang out with other smart people, many of which are smarter than I am (not on this board, on Skype and on my own board). My wife is smarter than I am. She keeps me humble.
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« Reply #50 on: March 17, 2007, 06:47:37 PM »
I am not arrogant. I am quite aware that there are plenty of things I am ignorant about, and that's why I hang out with other smart people, many of which are smarter than I am (not on this board, on Skype and on my own board). My wife is smarter than I am. She keeps me humble.

And you count your attitude towards REers as what and lets not even go to religous people.  ::)
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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #51 on: March 17, 2007, 06:48:43 PM »
Well, Round Earthism and other religions are immoral, epistemically bankrupt, and wrong. I am anti-religious because I don't want to live in a society where religious oppression flourishes. I'd rather have secular oppression.
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Re: The tides
« Reply #52 on: March 17, 2007, 06:51:47 PM »
Ah FEIPS, don't take it seriously.

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« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2007, 06:54:31 PM »
And I'd rather have acceptance and equality amoung people of all backgrounds. Besides who are you to say its immoral? Its all in the eye of the beholder.

Sorry, Stray, but I have a tendency of feeding the trolls to try and get some insight on how people think. :(
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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #54 on: March 17, 2007, 06:56:42 PM »
And I'd rather have acceptance and equality amoung people of all backgrounds.

Do you accept mass murderers as a part of society?

Do you accept people who support and nurture aggression against people's bodies and minds?


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Besides who are you to say its immoral? Its all in the eye of the beholder.

Morality is not "in the eye of the beholder." Morality is the study of the causal relation between action and result. What we call good is what fulfills our universal values, and evil, that which goes against them.
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« Reply #55 on: March 17, 2007, 06:59:48 PM »
And I'd rather have acceptance and equality amoung people of all backgrounds. Besides who are you to say its immoral? Its all in the eye of the beholder.

Sorry, Stray, but I have a tendency of feeding the trolls to try and get some insight on how people think. :(
The arguments put forth by Franc shouldn't be taken seriously exactly because they are words of a person who does not think. So trying to figure people's thought processes out won't come to fruition with studying Franc (when he's like this). This isn't what Franc really thinks.

Sorry, Franc. I'll stop spoiling your fun now.

Re: The tides
« Reply #56 on: March 17, 2007, 07:09:20 PM »
And to believe I took him seriously, well okay. Just another troll, then?
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Franc T., Planar

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Re: The tides
« Reply #57 on: March 17, 2007, 07:10:02 PM »
No... I am on a Flat Earth board and I am a Flat Earther. You are the troll, sorry to say.
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« Reply #58 on: March 17, 2007, 07:12:41 PM »
Well, I'm a Round Earther on a Flat Earth Board which is open to Round Earthers for debate, so therefore, I am not a troll.
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Re: The tides
« Reply #59 on: March 25, 2007, 09:18:06 AM »
Can we get back to the subject at hand?  :-\

Gravity is the pseudo force felt.
Gravitation is the influence that all objects have on each other.

By "influence", I presume you mean attraction? If this is the case, what makes gravity fictitious? How is Gravity not part of Gravitation?
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