A few questions about FE

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A few questions about FE
« on: March 10, 2007, 02:13:44 PM »
I have a couple of questions about the FE theory:

1: If, as you say, there is a conspiracy to keep this information hidden from us, when did it start? It is impossible, totally, and utterly impossible, for any sort of conspiracy to of existed in the middle ages, as the world was in no way unified to make guarding a wall that follows the circumference of the earth possible.

2: In regards to that, since this conspiracy can't have existed forever, why is there no evidence of an ice wall in any form of literature that predates 1884 (In fact, a conspiracy would still not be possible then)?

3: If the main money maker of this conspiracy is NASA, then why would countries such as N. Korea, Iran, China and until 1991, the Soviet Union, guard this wall to make America money?

4: If the earth is traveling upwards, what is propelling it? If it were some sort of star or black hole pulling us up, the gravity would not remain nice and constant, it would gradually increase, and we would've noted this.

5: What is the sky?

6: Why haven't we been charred to a crisp by the sun? At the distance you say it is from earth, it would kill everyone and destroy everything on the planet, cause rock to heat into magma, and boil off the oceans almost instantly.

EDIT: 7: The common consensus is that the universe is finite. Why have we not yet smacked into the edge of it?
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ThatHippyMan

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Re: A few questions about FE
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2007, 02:18:47 PM »
Bah, don't waste your breath.  These FE'ers just change theories to their will and then say "READ [crazy, nonsensical book about the same things, just worded differently]!!!11"
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Re: A few questions about FE
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2007, 02:19:23 PM »
Yes, I noticed that they do that a lot.

I'll just need to keep badgering.

Re: A few questions about FE
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2007, 02:32:50 PM »
Sorry for Double Post, but I have another question

8: If the ice wall is holding the water in, what held it in before it formed? Since the earth used to be molten, it clearly couldn't exist then, and how would it have formed without water? So SOMETHING must have held the water in before it formed, so what was it?

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GeoGuy

Re: A few questions about FE
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2007, 02:46:37 PM »
I have a couple of questions about the FE theory:

1: If, as you say, there is a conspiracy to keep this information hidden from us, when did it start? It is impossible, totally, and utterly impossible, for any sort of conspiracy to of existed in the middle ages, as the world was in no way unified to make guarding a wall that follows the circumference of the earth possible.
Most likely whenever scientists and government officials discovered that Earth was actually flat.

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2: In regards to that, since this conspiracy can't have existed forever, why is there no evidence of an ice wall in any form of literature that predates 1884 (In fact, a conspiracy would still not be possible then)?
There has been. Every mention of Antarctica talks about the ice wall.

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3: If the main money maker of this conspiracy is NASA, then why would countries such as N. Korea, Iran, China and until 1991, the Soviet Union, guard this wall to make America money?
NASA isn't the main money maker.

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4: If the earth is traveling upwards, what is propelling it? If it were some sort of star or black hole pulling us up, the gravity would not remain nice and constant, it would gradually increase, and we would've noted this.
The force accelerating us upwards has been given the plaeholder name of dark energy, also called the UA (Universel Accelerator).

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5: What is the sky?
What you see when you look up.

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6: Why haven't we been charred to a crisp by the sun? At the distance you say it is from earth, it would kill everyone and destroy everything on the planet, cause rock to heat into magma, and boil off the oceans almost instantly.
The Sun and moon are both much, much smaller than they are in the RE theory.

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EDIT: 7: The common consensus is that the universe is finite. Why have we not yet smacked into the edge of it?
Because the whole thing is accelerating up with us.

Re: A few questions about FE
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2007, 02:54:16 PM »
I have a couple of questions about the FE theory:

1: If, as you say, there is a conspiracy to keep this information hidden from us, when did it start? It is impossible, totally, and utterly impossible, for any sort of conspiracy to of existed in the middle ages, as the world was in no way unified to make guarding a wall that follows the circumference of the earth possible.
Most likely whenever scientists and government officials discovered that Earth was actually flat.
Erm, hello, there have been people saying the earth is flat since the Mesopotamians. In the 4th/3rd Century BC. They would not have the means, nor the want to defend the ice wall.

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2: In regards to that, since this conspiracy can't have existed forever, why is there no evidence of an ice wall in any form of literature that predates 1884 (In fact, a conspiracy would still not be possible then)?
There has been. Every mention of Antarctica talks about the ice wall.
No, they have discussed huge mounds of ice. If they were scaled, they would lead to more vast planes of ice.


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3: If the main money maker of this conspiracy is NASA, then why would countries such as N. Korea, Iran, China and until 1991, the Soviet Union, guard this wall to make America money?
NASA isn't the main money maker.
Then who is?

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4: If the earth is traveling upwards, what is propelling it? If it were some sort of star or black hole pulling us up, the gravity would not remain nice and constant, it would gradually increase, and we would've noted this.
The force accelerating us upwards has been given the plaeholder name of dark energy, also called the UA (Universel Accelerator).
Oh, please, do explain how this works...

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5: What is the sky?
What you see when you look up.
Nice question dodging. I mean what is the sky if the earth is flat. Is it a disk, a sphere enveloping the earth?

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6: Why haven't we been charred to a crisp by the sun? At the distance you say it is from earth, it would kill everyone and destroy everything on the planet, cause rock to heat into magma, and boil off the oceans almost instantly.
The Sun and moon are both much, much smaller than they are in the RE theory.
It would still produce IMMENSE amounts of heat

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EDIT: 7: The common consensus is that the universe is finite. Why have we not yet smacked into the edge of it?
Because the whole thing is accelerating up with us.
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Not possible. Lets assume the universe to be a big hollow ball full of stars and planets and such. What goes on inside it, only happens inside it. The outside doesn't follow the sam rules of physics, so it would remain stationary.

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Re: A few questions about FE
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2007, 12:41:53 AM »
The universe is at least 14 billion light years across.  Therefore we have more than 14 billion years before we 'hit' the edge.  However, the universe is also expanding, lucky for us.


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Re: A few questions about FE
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2007, 11:52:23 AM »
I have a couple of questions about the FE theory:

1: If, as you say, there is a conspiracy to keep this information hidden from us, when did it start? It is impossible, totally, and utterly impossible, for any sort of conspiracy to of existed in the middle ages, as the world was in no way unified to make guarding a wall that follows the circumference of the earth possible.
Most likely whenever scientists and government officials discovered that Earth was actually flat.
Erm, hello, there have been people saying the earth is flat since the Mesopotamians. In the 4th/3rd Century BC. They would not have the means, nor the want to defend the ice wall.
But at that time, they also didnt have the means to travel to the ice wall.

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2: In regards to that, since this conspiracy can't have existed forever, why is there no evidence of an ice wall in any form of literature that predates 1884 (In fact, a conspiracy would still not be possible then)?
There has been. Every mention of Antarctica talks about the ice wall.
No, they have discussed huge mounds of ice. If they were scaled, they would lead to more vast planes of ice.
That last sentence is an assumption, your opinion.

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3: If the main money maker of this conspiracy is NASA, then why would countries such as N. Korea, Iran, China and until 1991, the Soviet Union, guard this wall to make America money?
NASA isn't the main money maker.
Then who is?
Who knows? the Conspiracy keeps itself well hidden.
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4: If the earth is traveling upwards, what is propelling it? If it were some sort of star or black hole pulling us up, the gravity would not remain nice and constant, it would gradually increase, and we would've noted this.
The force accelerating us upwards has been given the plaeholder name of dark energy, also called the UA (Universel Accelerator).
Oh, please, do explain how this works...
There are may threads in this forum explaining it. Do some research.

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5: What is the sky?
What you see when you look up.
Nice question dodging. I mean what is the sky if the earth is flat. Is it a disk, a sphere enveloping the earth?
As Tom has stated many times, the sky is the color we see the air to be when large volumes of it change the light from the sun. Like water, clear in a glass, blue in the ocean, only takes larger amounts.

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6: Why haven't we been charred to a crisp by the sun? At the distance you say it is from earth, it would kill everyone and destroy everything on the planet, cause rock to heat into magma, and boil off the oceans almost instantly.
The Sun and moon are both much, much smaller than they are in the RE theory.
It would still produce IMMENSE amounts of heat
Not neccessarily. your wording is vague and generalized. It does produce large amounts of heat, but far far less than the RE sun.
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EDIT: 7: The common consensus is that the universe is finite. Why have we not yet smacked into the edge of it?
Because the whole thing is accelerating up with us.
Not possible. Lets assume the universe to be a big hollow ball full of stars and planets and such. What goes on inside it, only happens inside it. The outside doesn't follow the sam rules of physics, so it would remain stationary.
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First off, if it follows different rules of physics outside, then how can you assume that it would remain stationary? Also, also, as Engineer stated, we still have plenty of time till that occurs, if it does.
As I said in another thread...

Forget "Earth: Not a Globe". Why don't you try reading "Earth: Not a Book, the Real Thing".