The Number of People in the Conspiracy

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The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« on: March 01, 2007, 06:14:23 AM »
I would like to find out how many people the FE people belive to be in on the conspiracy and paid.
Here's my off the top of my head list:

1. People who fake the pictures/ Probaly working for NASA - ABout 100 I would say.
2. People who claim to have seen the curvature of the earth in that one English plane that could fly that high in the seventies- About 50
3. Guards of the ICE Wall- I heard 100
4. Mechanics for the patrol vehicles of the Ice Wall (assuming the guards no not how to fix things)- 10
5. The people who filmed March of the Penguins - 10ish
6. People secretly making stratellites - 50 ish
7. Most astronomers/these bastards claim stars are light years away/-1000
8. The people who claim to have done the cavendish experiment - I would say 40

The budget of NASA for the year 2007 - $16.8 Billion (2007)

If everyone got the same cut - $12,352,941.18 Wow, they are livin' high.

If I missed people, the cut they get will obviously be smaller.
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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2007, 07:22:07 AM »
The cut would have to be much smaller.

That 16.8B can't be distributed as pure profit. NASA employs thousands of people across 11 centers. They also pay contractors who work at those 11 centers (I happen to be one of them - O NOES IM A KONSPIRATOR!!!!1!). They conduct very real non-space related research that finds its way to the private sector (ever driven on a stretch of highway with those grooves in the pavement? That's the direct result of NASA research). They have to purchase materials and machinery for producing scale models etc. Also, those "fake" shuttle launches can't be cheap. You get the idea.

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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2007, 08:21:16 AM »
Please include in your list every person who buys a telescope with an acceptable equatorial mounting, past and present. That is at least ten million people. How many friends and family you add to your count is anyone's guess.

Anyone who makes careful measurements of the movement of stellar objects can immediately tell if the hovering sun and hovering planets theory holds any water.

I guess the CIA has a couple million agents checking on the use of telescopes all around the world.

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2007, 08:50:05 AM »
Please include in your list every person who buys a telescope with an acceptable equatorial mounting, past and present. That is at least ten million people. How many friends and family you add to your count is anyone's guess.

Anyone who makes careful measurements of the movement of stellar objects can immediately tell if the hovering sun and hovering planets theory holds any water.

I guess the CIA has a couple million agents checking on the use of telescopes all around the world.

With those agents, I got approx $900 each.


Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2007, 03:35:44 PM »
What about all of the non-government operated companies involved in space related technologies?  Companies like Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, Raytheon, etc all have large space technology divisions.  Are the hundreds of thousands of scientists and engineers that work for these companies all part of the Conspiracy too?  I just had an interview with Lockheed Martin.  Maybe I can get one of those fat conspiracy checks too!

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2007, 04:54:36 PM »
lol the more you think about it the more ridiculous the money motive becomes. Quality thread :D

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2007, 04:56:39 PM »
Pilots may also have to be paid, it even says so in the FAQs.

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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2007, 04:59:55 PM »
I wish they'd pay me

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2007, 05:01:27 PM »
You already have a check in the mail, for every 100 posts attempting to prove the FE theory wrong, the government sends you $500.

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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2007, 05:03:06 PM »
Brilliant! I want pounds stirling though, the dollar's not what it was

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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2007, 05:06:01 PM »
What about all of the non-government operated companies involved in space related technologies?  Companies like Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, Raytheon, etc all have large space technology divisions.  Are the hundreds of thousands of scientists and engineers that work for these companies all part of the Conspiracy too?  I just had an interview with Lockheed Martin.  Maybe I can get one of those fat conspiracy checks too!
kind of playing devil's advocatre here
but lockheed martin is kind of governemnt a wee bit

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2007, 07:41:02 PM »
Seriously, though. Has any FE thought about the amount of people i the conspiracy. I doubt anyone is going to take 20,000 dollars a month and keep their mouth shut about the earth being flat. Hell, I wouldn't take less then ten million a year personally. 8)
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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2007, 07:43:03 PM »
Yeah, they have thought about it.  Theres a link to a thread about it in the FAQ, I'm too lazy to go find it.  They estimate MUCH fewer people need to know. 

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2007, 07:47:35 PM »
Yeah, they have thought about it.  Theres a link to a thread about it in the FAQ, I'm too lazy to go find it.  They estimate MUCH fewer people need to know. 

Thanks. The FAQ has been updated supposedly since I joined to forum. SO i probaly should go read on the latest hypothesis. I think Tom Bishop should write the FAQ though.
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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2007, 07:48:56 PM »

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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2007, 07:54:42 PM »
A massive world-wide conspiracy isn't absolutely necessary for FE, depending on the FE model we look at. Especially if the topology of the model exists in non-euclidean space. It's very possible that NASA is simply bad at science.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2007, 08:02:16 PM by Tom Bishop »

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2007, 07:57:32 PM »
A massive world-wide conspiracy isn't absolutely necessary for FE, depending on the FE model we look at. Especially if the model exists in non-euclidean space. It's very possible that NASA is simply bad at science.

Ok, so now it is not a conspiracy, NASA just employs dumb "scientists", like AL Gore. Thanks for clearing this up Tom Bishop. We <3 you.
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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2007, 08:00:40 PM »
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Ok, so now it is not a conspiracy, NASA just employs dumb "scientists", like AL Gore. Thanks for clearing this up Tom Bishop. We <3 you.

NASA does not have to deliberately employ dumb scientists. The scientists who do work for NASA simply operate under a pretense for a Round Earth.The smartest scientists on earth would not be able to recognize non-euclidean space without looking for it.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2007, 08:07:13 PM by Tom Bishop »

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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2007, 08:05:02 PM »
Ah, so it's an accident now, is it, Tom?

Add to the list those who have expeditions to "Antarctica".

Oh, and a few people in Discovery Channel and the like, they have features on Antarctica almost all the time.
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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2007, 08:11:51 PM »
Ah, so it's an accident now, is it, Tom?

Add to the list those who have expeditions to "Antarctica".

Oh, and a few people in Discovery Channel and the like, they have features on Antarctica almost all the time.

Antarctic excursions are completely possible. In a non-euclidean FE model it would be possible to travel south and eventually end up where you started.

A simple mind would assume it's because the earth is curved. An innovative mind would realize that it is space-time itself that's curved.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2007, 08:19:01 PM by Tom Bishop »

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unclegravy

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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2007, 08:19:26 PM »
No, I meant those going to the Antarctic would see an ice wall 150 feet high, eventually, at least.
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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2007, 08:27:14 PM »
No, I meant those going to the Antarctic would see an ice wall 150 feet high, eventually, at least.

Perhaps you haven't figured out the origin of the Ice Wall by now. I'll go ahead and spell it out for you.

The RE counterpart to the 150 foot Ice Wall described in the FAQ is called the Ross Ice Shelf. It is a wall of ice that surrounds Antarctica. It is several hundred meters thick. The nearly vertical ice front to the open sea is more than 50 meters high above the water surface. Ninety percent of the floating ice is below the water surface.

The Ross Ice Shelf was named after Sir James Clark Ross, an early 1800's explorer who was among the first to venture to Antarctica in an attempt to determine the position of the South Magnetic Pole. Upon confronting the massive wall of ice he famously remarked 'Well, there's no more chance of sailing through that than through the cliffs of Dover.'
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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2007, 08:32:40 PM »
Well, why didn't anyone say so. You learn new things everyday.:)
And noone has seen the other side of this Ross Ice Shelf?
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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2007, 08:55:15 PM »
A massive world-wide conspiracy isn't absolutely necessary for FE, depending on the FE model we look at. Especially if the topology of the model exists in non-euclidean space. It's very possible that NASA is simply bad at science.
Apparently you have no idea what the scientists and engineers at NASA actually do. 

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Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2007, 09:14:13 PM »
1. People who fake the pictures/ Probaly working for NASA - ABout 100 I would say.
A hundred people to fake a few pictures? I know people who could throw some of those pictures together in a couple of hours. Why would you need 100 people?

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2. People who claim to have seen the curvature of the earth in that one English plane that could fly that high in the seventies- About 50
Or they were just duped, and they thought they saw the curvature, even though they didn't. It's called the power of suggestion.

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3. Guards of the ICE Wall- I heard 100
More than that. Close to a thousand probably. But what leverage do they have? They don't need money to shut up, just to work.

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4. Mechanics for the patrol vehicles of the Ice Wall (assuming the guards no not how to fix things)- 10
Same as above.

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5. The people who filmed March of the Penguins - 10ish
Why?

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6. People secretly making stratellites - 50 ish
Or they can just have a couple people supervising and making the other workers make "sattelites."

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7. Most astronomers/these bastards claim stars are light years away/-1000
Why?

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8. The people who claim to have done the cavendish experiment - I would say 40
They're not in on the conspiracy, they just got falsified results.

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The budget of NASA for the year 2007 - $16.8 Billion (2007)
Per year. And that's only NASA, not including the other space programs.

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If everyone got the same cut - $12,352,941.18 Wow, they are livin' high.
Are you saying you wouldn't lie for 12 million a year? That's a nice, fat paycheck, and obviously it's higher than that, seeing as you made up a lot of unnecessary personnel.

~D-DRaw

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2007, 09:22:51 PM »
as far as I can figure, you fags believe that anyone who does not accept FE must be in on the conspiracy: that would MAKE say...   6 BILLION PEOPLE ON GOVERNMENT "BRIBES"?
The Earth is obviously an octagonal prism...  ..idiots!

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2007, 09:30:07 PM »
as far as I can figure, you fags believe that anyone who does not accept FE must be in on the conspiracy: that would MAKE say...   6 BILLION PEOPLE ON GOVERNMENT "BRIBES"?


How do you know ther are 6 billion people on Earth? Have you seen all 6 billion of them. According to FE logic, you have to experience it for yourself, factual/proven evidence doesn't count. Those photos on google are photoshopped by the way, yeah those starving kids in China, they dont exist, its all a conspiracy to dump more money into NASA and their photoshoppers. Google is ran by an evil empire who puts up false photos of youngin's who appear to be starving, but are actually just tired. That picture you posted is not real by the way.

/end sarcasm

I love making up stuff.

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2007, 10:34:07 PM »

What was the motive for the conspiracy before the space program?  This isn't such a recent theory...

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2007, 05:01:29 AM »
Are you saying you wouldn't lie for 12 million a year? That's a nice, fat paycheck, and obviously it's higher than that, seeing as you made up a lot of unnecessary personnel.

~D-DRaw
No, it's obviously much LOWER than that. See my previous post. And that was just stuff I could come up with off the top of my head at the time. Remember, NASA isn't completely about space exploration. They also do a lot of research in general aeronautics (a lot of which makes its way to the private sector; i.e. commercial airline industry) and on the atmosphere (allegedly using *gasp* satellites - DUN-DUN-DUNNNNN!!!!)

Anyway, I think a greater motive would be simply... pride. They wouldn't want to have to say publicly, "Hey everyone. We effed up. The world is really flat." Either way, the whole conspiracy thing is rather weak.

Re: The Number of People in the Conspiracy
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2007, 05:22:37 AM »

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3. Guards of the ICE Wall- I heard 100
More than that. Close to a thousand probably. But what leverage do they have? They don't need money to shut up, just to work.


~D-DRaw

You know why they have leverage? They are keeping one of the biggest conspiracies ever secret. They could ask for as much as they want and get it or they could easily spill the beans.

I will not make fun of Mr.  Tom Bishop anymore for I had a massive nose bleed. I hate karma. :(
Imperious, choleric, irascible, extreme in everything, with a dissolute imagination the like of which has never been seen, atheistic to the point of fanaticism, there you have me in a nutshell.... Kill me again or take me as I am, for I shall not change.