Phenomenon of Falling

If you could find an indefinite thermal, yes.  Hang gliders don't create enough lift to completely off set 'gravity', so eventually, you would contact the earth.

Ok one more question.

How does a helium ballon fly? wouldn't UA push it to earth?

or are there things lighter than air on FE?

(sorry if this sounds stupid, but FE really confuses me)

Quote from: bacardi2cola on February 25, 2007, 02:44:15 PM

UA means Universal Acceleration right? So everything is accelerating. I am accelerating, you are accelerating and everyone else is accelerating. Why does acceleration only apply while in contact with the Earth, what is forcing the Earth upwards that only works on celestial bodies?

Or did the government attach giant rocket boosters on the back of the Earth, to make the Earth seem more plausibly round.

It's accelerating the bottom of the Earth, but obviously we aren't coming in contact with the accelerator itself, so we only feel the acceleration while in contact with the Earth due to the fact that the Earth is accelerating and we are not.

~D-Draw

Why can't we see a similar accelerator on the moon, sun, and stars?  They're accelerating at the same rate as Earth.

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 25, 2007, 02:45:11 PM

If you could find an indefinite thermal, yes.  Hang gliders don't create enough lift to completely off set 'gravity', so eventually, you would contact the earth.

Ok one more question.

How does a helium ballon fly? wouldn't UA push it to earth?

or are there things lighter than air on FE?

(sorry if this sounds stupid, but FE really confuses me)

Helium is less dense than air.

Ok, let me rephrase again, and could you please give me a straight answer to how you perceive the question instead if telling me to go do something else (or something to that effect)?

If the Earth is constantly accelerating, wouldn't we;

a) Be travelling at an incredibly high velocity by now?
b) All be forced into the Earth similar to the way we are forced backwards into our forward facing seat when accelerating at a high rate forwards?

or are there things lighter than air on FE?
(sorry if this sounds stupid, but FE really confuses me)

I believe that there are such things as lighter than air objects in FE. It cannot disprove any statements in the FE theory, so why not?

Quote from: Pyrochimp on February 25, 2007, 02:42:30 PM

Okay, analogy time.  Let's say the airplane is Earth, and the objects are people.  If UA only applied to the airplane and not the objects on the airplane, then the objects would stay in the same place on the airplane, like people on Earth.  They're being accelerated at the same rate as the airplane since there's no other force directly acting on them.  However, if the airplane AND the objects were being accelerated by the same mystery force, the objects would accelerate ahead of the airplane, since they have much less mass but are being affected by the exact same force in the exact same way.

Exactly.

I'm glad we agree, but that doesn't really answer my original question.  What's this UA that effects Earth and every other celestial body known but not the things on Earth?

Ok, let me rephrase again, and could you please give me a straight answer to how you perceive the question instead if telling me to go do something else (or something to that effect)?

If the Earth is constantly accelerating, wouldn't we;

a) Be travelling at an incredibly high velocity by now?
b) All be forced into the Earth similar to the way we are forced backwards into our forward facing seat when accelerating at a high rate forwards?

Listen son. It has been discused, at least 10 times since I'm a member of this forum.

And I have been a member for two days. Do a forum search.

Quote from: I R RE on February 25, 2007, 02:51:26 PM

Ok, let me rephrase again, and could you please give me a straight answer to how you perceive the question instead if telling me to go do something else (or something to that effect)?

If the Earth is constantly accelerating, wouldn't we;

a) Be travelling at an incredibly high velocity by now?
b) All be forced into the Earth similar to the way we are forced backwards into our forward facing seat when accelerating at a high rate forwards?

Listen son. It has been discused, at least 10 times since I'm a member of this forum.

And I have been a member for two days. Do a forum search.

I would rather not trawl through 20 pages of search results when I could get a straight answer right here.

It's human nature to take the easy route, is it not?

Quote from: Mental on February 25, 2007, 02:54:05 PM

Quote from: I R RE on February 25, 2007, 02:51:26 PM

Ok, let me rephrase again, and could you please give me a straight answer to how you perceive the question instead if telling me to go do something else (or something to that effect)?

If the Earth is constantly accelerating, wouldn't we;

a) Be travelling at an incredibly high velocity by now?
b) All be forced into the Earth similar to the way we are forced backwards into our forward facing seat when accelerating at a high rate forwards?

Listen son. It has been discused, at least 10 times since I'm a member of this forum.

And I have been a member for two days. Do a forum search.

I would rather not trawl through 20 pages of search results when I could get a straight answer right here.

It's human nature to take the easy route, is it not?

Yes it is.

Do a forum search.

It's human nature to take the easy route, is it not?

Which is why things that believe in FE are not human.

If the Earth is constantly accelerating, wouldn't we;

a) Be travelling at an incredibly high velocity by now?
b) All be forced into the Earth similar to the way we are forced backwards into our forward facing seat when accelerating at a high rate forwards?

1.  Yes.
2.  Yes.

Quote from: I R RE on February 25, 2007, 02:51:26 PM

If the Earth is constantly accelerating, wouldn't we;

a) Be travelling at an incredibly high velocity by now?
b) All be forced into the Earth similar to the way we are forced backwards into our forward facing seat when accelerating at a high rate forwards?

1.  Yes.
2.  Yes.

For 2;

Then why aren't we all horribly crushed to death? Simple answer please, no complicated maths and yadda yadda.

In their theory, the force of acceleration is amount to that of what the force of gravity would apply to objects on the Earth.

We are accelerating at 9.8m/s^2.  One g.  Which is also known as the acceleration due to gravity.

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 25, 2007, 02:59:57 PM

Quote from: I R RE on February 25, 2007, 02:51:26 PM

If the Earth is constantly accelerating, wouldn't we;

a) Be travelling at an incredibly high velocity by now?
b) All be forced into the Earth similar to the way we are forced backwards into our forward facing seat when accelerating at a high rate forwards?

1.  Yes.
2.  Yes.

For 2;

Then why aren't we all horribly crushed to death? Simple answer please, no complicated maths and yadda yadda.

I'm just curious to hear the FE answer to this, to increase my overall understanding of people's beliefs and understandings of the universe we inhabit.

Look above your post.

Quote from: I R RE on February 25, 2007, 03:01:09 PM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 25, 2007, 02:59:57 PM

Quote from: I R RE on February 25, 2007, 02:51:26 PM

If the Earth is constantly accelerating, wouldn't we;

a) Be travelling at an incredibly high velocity by now?
b) All be forced into the Earth similar to the way we are forced backwards into our forward facing seat when accelerating at a high rate forwards?

1.  Yes.
2.  Yes.

For 2;

Then why aren't we all horribly crushed to death? Simple answer please, no complicated maths and yadda yadda.

I'm just curious to hear the FE answer to this, to increase my overall understanding of people's beliefs and understandings of the universe we inhabit.

Seriously, go to a library and ask for "Basic mechanics" or sth like that, if you're interested, it'll be a good reading. You can also search the wikipedia, explanations there are much more thorough

Okay, I understand that (I think).

So, what's outside the Earth and the bits and bobs that come with us? Acceleration is defined as the rate of change of velocity, correct? And velocity can be defined as the rate of change of displacement, again, correct? And displacement is the direct, straight line distance from a point, so there has to be some fixed point from which acceleration can be garnered. What is this place? It can't be nothing, or an arbitrary point, as that nullifies the whole acceleration argument.

Drop a pen.  There is your fixed point.

So my fixed point for an accelerating object is inside the accelerating object, okay.

Again, what's outside the Flanet?

So my fixed point for an accelerating object is inside the accelerating object, okay.

Sure, why not?  The pen is no longer accelerating, so what's the problem?

I never said there was one, I said 'Okay'.

For the third time, if you know, what is outside the Flanet?

If you don't know, then speculate.

Space.

Are there other Flanet's out there? Or is it just an entirely empty and infinite area?

As a RE bro, When I drop a feather it falls to the ground due to gravity.  As it falls, it softly and gracefully glides back and forth threw the air because of its air resistance.  The feather also loses speed and gains speed as it rotates due to the air resistance.

So if the earth is accelerating upwards, wouldn't the speed of the feather hitting the earth appear to be consistantly accelerating?  

As a RE bro, When I drop a feather it falls to the ground due to gravity.  As it falls, it softly and gracefully glides back and forth threw the air because of its air resistance.  The feather also loses speed and gains speed as it rotates due to the air resistance.

So if the earth is accelerating upwards, wouldn't the speed of the feather hitting the earth appear to be consistantly accelerating?   

Of course not, are you saying that air resistance isn't possible on the FE?

Or have i misunderstood sth?

If it wasn't for air resistance, yes.

The earth is accelerating.  When you jump, you increase your velocity relative to the earth.  As the earth accelerates, it catches up to you.

Sorry. When you jump off an accellerating object you accelerate with it, at a higher rate. And even if due to other factors, the Earth wouldnt  catch up to things the way it does.

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 25, 2007, 02:23:45 PM

The earth is accelerating.  When you jump, you increase your velocity relative to the earth.  As the earth accelerates, it catches up to you.

Sorry. When you jump off an accellerating object you accelerate with it, at a higher rate.

Right. Until your feet leave the ground.

Are there other Flanet's out there? Or is it just an entirely empty and infinite area?

Do you want to go check?

~D-Draw