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BOGWarrior89

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To Tom:
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2007, 04:05:35 PM »
The Earth doesn't have gravity in FE.  Stop crossing the streams.
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Ammo

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To Tom:
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2007, 04:06:29 PM »
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The Earth doesn't have gravity in FE.  Stop crossing the streams.


See my first post in this topic.  Tom Bishop admitted that the earth has gravity.

See the post here:
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10509
Toward the middle
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Christopher Columbo

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To Tom:
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2007, 04:07:28 PM »
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
The Earth doesn't have gravity in FE.  Stop crossing the streams.


If we go by that then the sun and the moon which contain the exact same elements found on our planet don't have gravity either.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2007, 04:07:54 PM »
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Really? How odd, because it seems the FAQ here says otherwise genious...


Let me say it again. The entire definition of "1g" is the amount of force felt on the surface of the earth at any given point. This g force is a combination of inertia and gravitation.

9.8m/s-2 is the combined force of inertia and gravitation.
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Temaki

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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2007, 04:08:24 PM »
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please dont continue to avoid topics.


The entire definition of "1 g" is the amount of force felt on the surface of the earth at any given point. According to FE this g force is a combination of inertia and gravitation.


Spoiler: "g force" is short for gravitational force. IT stands to reason that you can't have a gravitational force without gravity.
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Liger RE

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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2007, 04:08:34 PM »
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I know you can see my topic


The force of 9.8m/s-2 is the force we feel due to a combination of inertia and gravitation through acceleration.

The force we feel due to inertia is the greater of the two.


Really? How odd, because it seems the FAQ here says otherwise genious...

Quote from: "Flat Earth FAQ"
Q: "What about gravity?"

A1: The Earth is accelerating upwards at 1g (9.8m/s-2) along with every star, sun and moon in the universe. This produces the same effect as gravity.


And as far as the A2... it is irrelevant based on A1 saying we're accelerating at upwards 9.8m/s-2.


How is "Gravity comes from an external source" irrelevant?


Simple, because all objects have mass and an amount of gravity relative to their size and density. If you want to speak of an external source, the only thing strong enough to act upon us on earth is the earth itself.  Whether it be true RE gravity, or simulated gravity based on Constant Accel doesn't matter.  9.8m/s-2 is the same either way according to the all mighty FAQ.
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NarmaK

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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2007, 04:08:38 PM »
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The Earth doesn't have gravity in FE.  Stop crossing the streams.


If we go by that then the sun and the moon which contain the exact same elements found on our planet don't have gravity either.

It's called gravitation.
The great bishop refers to it as gravitation.
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BOGWarrior89

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To Tom:
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2007, 04:08:49 PM »
Quote from: "Christopher Columbo"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
The Earth doesn't have gravity in FE.  Stop crossing the streams.


If we go by that then the sun and the moon which contain the exact same elements found on our planet don't have gravity either.


The source of the UA could have something to do with the non-gravity on Earth.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2007, 04:09:58 PM »
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IT stands to reason that you can't have a gravitational force without gravity.


In FE "gravity" does not exist in the traditional sense. But "gravitation" does exist due to the Equivalence Principle.

Gravity and gravitation have two different definitions.

FE has gravitation, not gravity.
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Christopher Columbo

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To Tom:
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2007, 04:10:12 PM »
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "Christopher Columbo"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
The Earth doesn't have gravity in FE.  Stop crossing the streams.


If we go by that then the sun and the moon which contain the exact same elements found on our planet don't have gravity either.


The source of the UA could have something to do with the non-gravity on Earth.


In other words "magic". Sorry please try again.
K thx Bai
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Ammo

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To Tom:
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2007, 04:10:13 PM »
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Really? How odd, because it seems the FAQ here says otherwise genious...


Let me say it again. The entire definition of "1g" is the amount of force felt on the surface of the earth at any given point. This g force is a combination of inertia and gravitation.

9.8m/s-2 is the combined force of inertia and gravitation.


Not according to the FAQ
"A1: The Earth is accelerating upwards at 1g (9.8m/s-2) along with every star, sun and moon in the universe. This produces the same effect as gravity."
It does not say that the 9.8m/s-2 is a combined force.  It just says that the earth is accelerating upwards at 9.8m/s-2.
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NarmaK

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To Tom:
« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2007, 04:11:28 PM »
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The Earth doesn't have gravity in FE.  Stop crossing the streams.


If we go by that then the sun and the moon which contain the exact same elements found on our planet don't have gravity either.


The source of the UA could have something to do with the non-gravity on Earth.

So could a lot of things.
But that's just wild postulation.
Postulator!
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Dioptimus Drime

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« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2007, 04:12:38 PM »
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Do u believe in the shadow object?


No. Do I argue for it? Probably not either.


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Christopher Columbo

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« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2007, 04:13:10 PM »
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IT stands to reason that you can't have a gravitational force without gravity.


In FE "gravity" does not exist in the traditional sense. But "gravitation" does exist due to the Equivalence Principle.

Gravity and gravitation have two different definitions.

FE has gravitation, not gravity.


I believe in FE theory its been stated the MOON and SUN have GRAVITY. That clears the way for, wait for it, gravity to be in FE theory too!
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2007, 04:14:27 PM »
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Not according to the FAQ
"A1: The Earth is accelerating upwards at 1g (9.8m/s-2) along with every star, sun and moon in the universe. This produces the same effect as gravity."

It does not say that the 9.8m/s-2 is a combined force.  It just says that the earth is accelerating upwards at 9.8m/s-2.


It depends how you would like to interpret it. My interpretation is as follows:

A1: The Earth is accelerating upwards at 1g, the force of acceleration and logically any side effect forces due to the Equivalence Principle. (9.8m/s-2 is the force of a g)
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NarmaK

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To Tom:
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2007, 04:14:49 PM »
If there isn't any gravity, how did buzz land on the moon?
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Ammo

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« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2007, 04:15:31 PM »
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Really? How odd, because it seems the FAQ here says otherwise genious...


Let me say it again. The entire definition of "1g" is the amount of force felt on the surface of the earth at any given point. This g force is a combination of inertia and gravitation.

9.8m/s-2 is the combined force of inertia and gravitation.


Not according to the FAQ
"A1: The Earth is accelerating upwards at 1g (9.8m/s-2) along with every star, sun and moon in the universe. This produces the same effect as gravity."

Let me elaborate even more.
According to you the 9.8m/s-2 we feel is a combined force of the gravitational pull and the acceleration upward.  But according to the FAQ the upward force ALONE is creating the 9.8m/s-2.  This does not leave any room for the gravitational pull of the earth to add/subtract to this total of 9.8m/s-2

It does not say that the 9.8m/s-2 is a combined force.  It just says that the earth is accelerating upwards at 9.8m/s-2.
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Liger RE

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« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2007, 04:16:44 PM »
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IT stands to reason that you can't have a gravitational force without gravity.


In FE "gravity" does not exist in the traditional sense. But "gravitation" does exist due to the Equivalence Principle.

Gravity and gravitation have two different definitions.

FE has gravitation, not gravity.


according to Dictionary.com:

grav·i·ty
1. the force of attraction by which terrestrial bodies tend to fall toward the center of the earth.
2. heaviness or weight.
3. gravitation in general.
4. acceleration of gravity.
5. a unit of acceleration equal to the acceleration of gravity. Symbol: g
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Ammo

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« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2007, 04:17:09 PM »
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Not according to the FAQ
"A1: The Earth is accelerating upwards at 1g (9.8m/s-2) along with every star, sun and moon in the universe. This produces the same effect as gravity."

It does not say that the 9.8m/s-2 is a combined force.  It just says that the earth is accelerating upwards at 9.8m/s-2.


It depends how you would like to interpret it. My interpretation is as follows:

A1: The Earth is accelerating upwards at 1g, the force of acceleration and logically any side effect forces due to the Equivalence Principle. (9.8m/s-2, is the force of a g)


I do not see how you can read it like that because 9.8m/s-2 is in parentheses right after the "1g" pretty much saying they are equal.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2007, 04:17:37 PM »
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It just says that the earth is accelerating upwards at 9.8m/s-2.


Nope it just says the earth is accelerating upwards at "1g." It does not define 1g.

It then goes on to measure the force of 1g as "9.8m/s-2."
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Smartimus Prime

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To Tom:
« Reply #50 on: February 18, 2007, 04:18:32 PM »
Way to prove yourself wrong again, Tom Dumbass!
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #51 on: February 18, 2007, 04:19:34 PM »
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Way to prove yourself wrong again, Tom Dumbass!


The figure of "9.8m/s-2" is the speed objects would fall downward to the earth in a vacuum. Thus, "1g."
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Liger RE

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« Reply #52 on: February 18, 2007, 04:20:44 PM »
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It just says that the earth is accelerating upwards at 9.8m/s-2.


Nope it just says the earth is accelerating upwards at "1g." It does not define 1g.

It then goes on to measure the force of 1g as "9.8m/s-2."


While it may not define "1g" as 9.8m/s-2... science does.  

OH, wait... science is all a conspiracy to lie to us about the penguins patrolling the magic ice wall of doom.
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Smartimus Prime

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« Reply #53 on: February 18, 2007, 04:21:56 PM »
And once again you fail to prove your own point and instead support us RE'ers!!
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« Reply #54 on: February 18, 2007, 04:25:13 PM »
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Way to prove yourself wrong again, Tom Dumbass!


The figure of "9.8m/s-2" is the speed objects would fall downward to the earth in a vacuum. Thus, "1g."


You mean the rate of acceleration not speed right?

The same rate of acceleration that diminishes in the form of an inverse square as you get further away from the Earth's surface which FE theory tries to explain by just saying "Sun and Moon exert some gravitation". What a load of rubbish you people spout.

If I'm 1000 miles from your flat earth it should still be accelerating towards me at 1g but it doesn't. You're explaination for gravity falls apart faster than Michal Jackson's face in a sand storm.
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Red Skull

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To Tom:
« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2007, 04:25:36 PM »
Guys, the FAQ is not always right. Tom has his own opinions.
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« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2007, 04:27:02 PM »
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Guys, the FAQ is not always right.


You don't say..
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Ammo

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« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2007, 04:27:48 PM »
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Guys, the FAQ is not always right. Tom has his own opinions.


lol @ anarchy
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Christopher Columbo

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To Tom:
« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2007, 04:28:17 PM »
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Guys, the FAQ is not always right. Tom has his own opinions.


I'll agree with you on that. How ever he has still yet to provide proof on these things he "knows" and also begun to disprove the FE theory slowly over time as he states the same thing over and over again.
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Red Skull

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« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2007, 04:37:43 PM »
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Guys, the FAQ is not always right. Tom has his own opinions.


I'll agree with you on that. How ever he has still yet to provide proof on these things he "knows" and also begun to disprove the FE theory slowly over time as he states the same thing over and over again.

I'll stand down, because me and physics don't get along very well. I hate physics so I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about with your 5^g^x749fjs whatever. But Tom seemed so sure about his physics talk so I thought give the guy a break.
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