STILL confusted about this gravity thing

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Ammo

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« on: February 18, 2007, 02:50:12 PM »
The flat earth has no gravity.
yaya...relativity, equivalence principle..blah blah.

But according to Feeny...

Quote from: "Tom Bishop"
Einstein believed that acceleration of mass can warp space-time in such a way that it creates a uniform gravitational field around the object accelerating.]


How come the acceleration of the mass of the earth doesn't warp space-time in such a way that it creates a uniform gravitational field around itself?

Answers of more than 2 words please.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Tom has a BS in BS.

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MooBs

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2007, 02:51:26 PM »
The shadow object stops it.
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In FE Literature there are three celestial bodies that inhabit the sky. The Sun. The Moon. And the Shadow Object.
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You have performed an illegal operation. Tom Bishop will now shut down, you will lose all unsaved arguments.

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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2007, 02:51:28 PM »
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How come the acceleration of the mass of the earth doesn't warp space-time in such a way that it creates a uniform gravitational field around itself?


It does. The gravitation can be observed with the Cavendish Experiment.

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Ammo

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2007, 02:52:56 PM »
Quote from: "Tom Bishop"
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How come the acceleration of the mass of the earth doesn't warp space-time in such a way that it creates a uniform gravitational field around itself?


It does. The Earth's gravitation can be observed with the Cavendish Experiment.


So are you telling me that the earth has gravity?  I am told that FE belive it does not.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Tom has a BS in BS.

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Kasroa Is Gone

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2007, 02:53:57 PM »
Quote from: "Tom Bishop"
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How come the acceleration of the mass of the earth doesn't warp space-time in such a way that it creates a uniform gravitational field around itself?


It does. The gravitation can be observed with the Cavendish Experiment.


Spherical earth can be observed with the "watching something travel away until it drops over the horizon" experiment. Oh wait, our experiments are distorted by magical atmopshere.

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2007, 02:54:13 PM »
Quote from: "Tom Bishop"
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How come the acceleration of the mass of the earth doesn't warp space-time in such a way that it creates a uniform gravitational field around itself?


It does. The Earth's gravitation can be observed with the Cavendish Experiment.

My penis shall henceforth be referred to as the Cavendish Experiment.
All further talk of the Cavendish Experiment shall be taken as a sexual proposition, and will be responded with a polite wanking gesture.
Good day.
 once saw a video of a monkey washing a cat, that's CRAZY!!
Quote from: "Tom Bishop"
In FE Literature there are three celestial bodies that inhabit the sky. The Sun. The Moon. And the Shadow Object.

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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2007, 02:54:54 PM »
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So are you telling me that the earth has gravity?  I am told that FE belive it does not.


Read the FAQ again. It says nothing about a lack of gravitation in the universe.

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Spherical earth can be observed with the "watching something travel away until it drops over the horizon" experiment. Oh wait, our experiments are distorted by magical atmopshere.


No, just perspective.

See Chapter 14 of Earth not a Globe: http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za32.htm

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MooBs

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2007, 02:55:49 PM »
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How come the acceleration of the mass of the earth doesn't warp space-time in such a way that it creates a uniform gravitational field around itself?


It does. The gravitation can be observed with the Cavendish Experiment.


Spherical earth can be observed with the "watching something travel away until it drops over the horizon" experiment. Oh wait, our experiments are distorted by magical atmopshere.


The shadow object covers the bottom of your eye, only when something passes over the horizon.
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In FE Literature there are three celestial bodies that inhabit the sky. The Sun. The Moon. And the Shadow Object.
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You have performed an illegal operation. Tom Bishop will now shut down, you will lose all unsaved arguments.

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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2007, 02:57:10 PM »
So then why can't I grab the shadow object and move it away from my eye?

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Ammo

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2007, 02:58:17 PM »
Quote from: "Tom Bishop"

Read the FAQ again. It says nothing about a lack of gravitation in the universe.


okay Tom.  I really would like a serious discussion then.
May I refer to you to my previous post where I asked the following:
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10422&start=0

from the FAQ:

"Q: "What about gravity?"

A1: The Earth is accelerating upwards at 1g (9.8m/s-2) along with every star, sun and moon in the universe. This produces the same effect as gravity.

A2: Gravity comes from an external source (to be discussed) "

In the round earth theory, right now, we experience 1g (9.8m/s-2) which is caused by the gravitational pull of the earth.

In the flat earth theory, according to you guys this 1g is caused by the earth accelerating upward at 9.8m/s-2 (1g).

But wouldn't the mass of the flat earth combined with the acceleration upward at 9.8m/s-2 add more "pull" making gravity actually be more than 9.8m/s-2 (1g)?

So as of right now on our earth the measurable force of gravity is 9.8m/s-2.  Wouldnt it actually be 9.8m/s-2 from the UA PLUS the gravity of the earth itself?
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Tom has a BS in BS.

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Ammo

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2007, 02:59:37 PM »
bog also asked me to explain it better so I will also paste my other explaination

Quote from: "Ammo"

Okay let me explain a little bit better(or atleast try).

Now, lets pretend that the flat earth is not accelerating at 9.8m/s-2.
The mass of the earth alone would have atleast some effect of gravity.

Now, this gravity in addition to the acceleration of 9.8m/s-2 upward would give the sensation of gravity equal to 9.8m/s-2 PLUS the effect of gravity of the earth itself.

I think I explained it a little better there, if I did not, please tell me.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Tom has a BS in BS.

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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2007, 03:08:41 PM »
Quote from: "Tom Bishop"
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So are you telling me that the earth has gravity?  I am told that FE belive it does not.


Read the FAQ again. It says nothing about a lack of gravitation in the universe.

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Spherical earth can be observed with the "watching something travel away until it drops over the horizon" experiment. Oh wait, our experiments are distorted by magical atmopshere.


No, just perspective.

See Chapter 14 of Earth not a Globe: http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za32.htm


All that article says is that the smaller something is the closer it has to be for the eye to see it. If I have an object uniform in width from top to bottom and I painted markers on it from top to bottom then proceeded then back away from it a considerable distance the bottom of the object would gradually vanish over the horizon (though I would have to look through a telescope but that is irrelevant) and I would watch the horizon approach and cover up each marker one by one until the whole object vanished.

Tom how can you seriously believe that article to be evidence that perspective causes the vanishing horizon and how can you expect me to believe that because a lady in the distance appears to have no feet because I can't resolve them then somehow that disproves a round Earth causes the vanishing effect at the horizon? Do not insult my intelligence please.

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Ammo

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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2007, 03:09:23 PM »
So as of right now on our earth the measurable force of gravity is 9.8m/s-2. Wouldnt it actually be 9.8m/s-2 from the UA PLUS the gravity of the earth itself?

Yay nay? If nay, please explain
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Tom has a BS in BS.