One more querstion - where are we moving "up" from

To be moving "up" that means that has to be a "down" which means that has to be a starting point in order to reference direction. So where is this starting point?

Good point, jackspack.  And if there is a starting point, what exactly made the earth begin moving FROM said starting point?

So where is this starting point?

The center of the Big Bang.

They will most likely say the big bang
But this will be wrong because there is proof that the big bang caused everything to move in all directions.  Not in the same direction of earth  See the redshift:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift

So where did the Big Bang start then?  You MUST know this in your infinite so-called knowledge of the universe....

Bishop how do u know that the Big Bang was the start of the Universe? And what happens if we hit the roof of the Universe? Will I have to go into hospital??

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So where is this starting point?

The center of the Big Bang.

So you believe in the big bang, but you take your entire theory from a man who started the entire theory from the bible, which says god created the universe?

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So where is this starting point?

The center of the Big Bang.

But according to your worlds, there are no spherical shaped bodies. The bang bang theory says that a a body of matter so small by yet so dense and such immese heat exploded. Now, many scientists believe the universe wwas created from a single molecule. It has been proven, molecules, atoms, etc. are spherical in shape and particles revolve around the nucleus.

So what started the big bang, Tom?  I think it happened when I had to take an epic dump the other day, and there sure as hell weren't any flat earths in that....

To be moving "up" that means that has to be a "down" which means that has to be a starting point in order to reference direction. So where is this starting point?

Bend over.  That's "down".

Straighten out and look in a line perpendicular to the Earth's surface.  That's "up".

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So where is this starting point?

The center of the Big Bang.

God's anus?
I KNEW IT!

Bishop how do u know that the Big Bang was the start of the Universe? And what happens if we hit the roof of the Universe? Will I have to go into hospital??

I guess it's a good thing the universe is expanding.

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To be moving "up" that means that has to be a "down" which means that has to be a starting point in order to reference direction. So where is this starting point?

Bend over.  That's "down".

Straighten out and look in a line perpendicular to the Earth's surface.  That's "up".

Any more stupid thoughts/questions?

A direction can't be a point.
You're a douche bag!
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So explain where the starting point is if you're so "smart" then, Engineer.  And please, try not to make me laugh.

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Bishop how do u know that the Big Bang was the start of the Universe? And what happens if we hit the roof of the Universe? Will I have to go into hospital??

I guess it's a good thing the universe is expanding.

The matter is.
Nobody said anything about the space.

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So where is this starting point?

The center of the Big Bang.

So how fast are we going?  If you believe in the big bang, you must also then believe that it happened at least 6 billion years ago, and that the explosion had tremendous force that your tiny human mind (given it's obviously tinier than most) couldn't possibly comprehend.  

So then you mean to tell me such an epic explosion has some how managed to send our little disc soaring through space at an ever so gentle, and CONSTANT 9.8m/s-2 (taken right from your faq) over 6 billion years ago?  We would be traveling far faster than the speed of light by now, which is mathematically, and physically impossible for one, and for two, it doesn't make any sense because such an explosion would almost certainly send everything into all different directions, and at different speeds and at unpredictable trajectories.  So it must be MAGIC then that keeps us accelerating at such a constant speed.

Oh wait, your FAQ also states it could be an external force of gravity that acts on us to keep us on the ground... well that source would HAVE to be below our little "coin" and would thus be dragging us backwards... that would mean one of several things.  One, that since we are being dragged by it, we would have to be traveling backwards, and for us to be traveling at such as speed without flying off the Earth from the negative g's that it would cause, that would mean this object is pulling us powerfully enough that we would eventually crash into it, which also means this gravity would gradually get stronger and stronger.  For us to not get dragged into it, it would mean that we would have to be revolving around said object to maintain constant distance from this object.  That means centrifugal force (the same thing that tries to fling you off a merry go round if it spins too quickly) would fling us off anyway.

Or maybe that's magic too :rolleyes:

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To be moving "up" that means that has to be a "down" which means that has to be a starting point in order to reference direction. So where is this starting point?

Bend over.  That's "down".

Straighten out and look in a line perpendicular to the Earth's surface.  That's "up".

Any more stupid thoughts/questions?

A direction can't be a point.
You're a douche bag!
 :lol:

DouchebagCount++;

If we're coming from that direction, I'm guessing that's where we started, DER!

Good eye, guys.

BOG:  There's gotta be one stationary point for something to begin moving from, man... so where is it?

Good eye, guys.

BOG:  There's gotta be one stationary point for something to begin moving from, man... so where is it?

Um, no there doesn't.  We don't know enough about the universe to make that kind of statement.

Like hell.  If I'm standing in a spot and remaining stationary, that becomes the starting point from which I move anywhere.

Now try again.  Where is the starting point, if the Earth had to start moving "up" from somewhere?

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Bishop how do u know that the Big Bang was the start of the Universe? And what happens if we hit the roof of the Universe? Will I have to go into hospital??

I guess it's a good thing the universe is expanding.

The matter is.
Nobody said anything about the space.

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Do you want to keep going?

Like hell.  If I'm standing in a spot and remaining stationary, that becomes the starting point from which I move anywhere.

Now try again.  Where is the starting point, if the Earth had to start moving "up" from somewhere?

"Infinte yet finite" argument, Stephen Hawking.

You lose.

I see no answer, BOG... are you telling me you don't HAVE a logical answer, instead of an "I'm going to shoot you down without explanation"?

*sits around, still waiting*

I see no answer, BOG... are you telling me you don't HAVE a logical answer, instead of an "I'm going to shoot you down without explanation"?

Had you known to what I was referencing, you would have admitted defeat.

Stephen Hawking once said that the universe was infinite yet finite - much like the surface of a sphere.  You could walk around it forever (making it appear to be infinite in size), but it's really not.

Tell me, where's the midpoint in an infinitely large universe?

DonutGuard, you are the 5,000,000th person to present that argument, and will be the 5,000,000th person to realize that you are wrong.  Do a search.

I think you all missed the point of the "big bang" issue, if we were still accelerating from the big bang that means it is still "banging" either that or this little coin of a planet is in one COLOSSAL gun barrel and the "big bang" was actually a cartridge that is firing us towards the "enemy of God" in an effort to destroy that, in which case life on this bullet is accidental and thus there is no loving God.

That was sarcasm there, but really what is causing the earth to accelerate, because acceleration is a change in velocity over time which states there must be a force to cause acceleration. don't say "dark energy" because guess what even though DE may exsist there is still entropy which has to be explained if the earth is accelerating CONSTANTLY with respect to everything, then the energy must be disappating somehow. There is no way to accelerate a mass without having OTHER effects such as heat and such.

ON TOP OF THAT WHY HAVE ALL MY OTHER POSTS BEEN IGNORED AM I FUCKING INVISIBLE YOU ASSHOLES?

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I see no answer, BOG... are you telling me you don't HAVE a logical answer, instead of an "I'm going to shoot you down without explanation"?

Had you known to what I was referencing, you would have admitted defeat.

Stephen Hawking once said that the universe was infinite yet finite - much like the surface of a sphere.  You could walk around it forever (making it appear to be infinite in size), but it's really not.

Tell me, where's the midpoint in an infinitely large universe?

Didn't you basically say, that everything is accelerating at the same velocity, going in the same direction?  Doesn't that suggest that the big bang shot everything out all in one direction like a ray of light to have made everything go in such a uniform path?  How would it do this?  What sort of forces acted upon this emmense cosmic explosion to have made this sort of effect?

You're basically saying with this argument, that if you walk around a sphere it could make it appear infinite in size, but we're traveling in ONE direction CONSTANTLY at ALL TIMES.  Either the universe is infinite, or it is expanding directly upwards to make way for us and our entourage.  But you've already stated that the Universe is a sphere so I guess there's not much room here for you to say anything.  Unless you want to just forget all that and say something else, or come up with yet another hairbrained excuse.

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DonutGuard, you are the 5,000,000th person to present that argument, and will be the 5,000,000th person to realize that you are wrong. Do a search.

Oh is that so?  Okay then smart guy, explain it to me right now.  No FAQ, no links, just you and your wits.  Don't keep me waiting, and don't you dare disappoint me with some one lined run around.

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To be moving "up" that means that has to be a "down" which means that has to be a starting point in order to reference direction. So where is this starting point?

Bend over.  That's "down".

Straighten out and look in a line perpendicular to the Earth's surface.  That's "up".

Any more stupid thoughts/questions?

A direction can't be a point.
You're a douche bag!
 :lol:

DouchebagCount++;

If we're coming from that direction, I'm guessing that's where we started, DER!

Where specifically is las vegas?
Nerr, thata way!
Well thanks captain!
*drives into the fucking ocean*

YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT!
HAHA!

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I see no answer, BOG... are you telling me you don't HAVE a logical answer, instead of an "I'm going to shoot you down without explanation"?

Had you known to what I was referencing, you would have admitted defeat.

Stephen Hawking once said that the universe was infinite yet finite - much like the surface of a sphere.  You could walk around it forever (making it appear to be infinite in size), but it's really not.

Tell me, where's the midpoint in an infinitely large universe?

DonutGuard, you are the 5,000,000th person to present that argument, and will be the 5,000,000th person to realize that you are wrong.  Do a search.

Halfway between the starting point, and the starting point.

Didn't you basically say, that everything is accelerating at the same velocity

No, because that makes no sense.