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Supernovas in the FE theory
« on: February 18, 2007, 02:19:15 PM »
Since FE'ers appear to ignore gravity coming from the earth and claim a lot of other random BS like the sun being 32 miles in diameter as well as the moon and at the same distance from the earth. (How the moon is clearly larger then the sun still hasn't been explained to me)

So lets go with something that can't be called magic or a illusion. And simply put that topic is in fact.

Supernovas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova

Theres one that was quite visible for a week by the naked eye if i remember correctly. So I thought I'd bring this up because it seems impossible for something thats made almost entirely of gas, flat, and that is to also have gravity(wow) in the FE theory to perform said actions that a supernova does.

I'll even give Fe'er a workable theory on how the stars work so we don't see a random BS anwser. Lets say since they have gravity and are almost entirely made of gas that the gravity pulls them down into a nearly complete flat disc which inturn the gases heat up and that creates the spotlight effect.

Now with that said, how is it possible for this flat disc to explode in the manner a supernova?  Discuss and anwser, LOGICLY. :!:
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2007, 02:23:01 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2007, 02:30:22 PM »
Clearly they believe it was magic... or their heads are too far up their asses to answer.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2007, 02:34:45 PM »
Surely theres a  FE'er with the guts to take this subject on without a one line excuse. Perhaps maybe even the legendary Tom Bishop himself?
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2007, 02:46:31 PM »
Egads, I think you killed them from brain strain!
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2007, 02:49:54 PM »
The shadow object clouds your mind.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2007, 03:05:00 PM »
Moobs  man as much as I love you, I gotta ask you to stop that here. I want a real discussion if they'll ever show up. Same goes for you Prime. So unless you wanna add something constructive please don't post.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2007, 03:05:53 PM »
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Moobs  man as much as I love you, I gotta ask you to stop that here. I want a real discussion if they'll ever show up. Same goes for you Prime. So unless you wanna add something constructive please don't post.


If you want a real discussion you are in the wrong forum.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2007, 03:38:22 PM »
I'm honestly surprised that no one will post on this. I would have thought this would have been a perfect subject since it has happened and since it was visible to the naked eye it can't have been faked.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2007, 03:39:24 PM »
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I'm honestly surprised that no one will post on this. I would have thought this would have been a perfect subject since it has happened and since it was visible to the naked eye it can't have been faked.


The govt used very high tech fireworks to fake the supernova
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2007, 06:23:35 PM »
Since it's a new day and new days bring new people, lets try this one again. Do i have any takers on this discussion?
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2007, 06:27:33 PM »
Like my sig says on my old acc, they'll say one of the following:  optical illusions, dark matter, anti-matter, dark energy, the Force, or an Ice Wall.
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2007, 06:30:40 PM »
Quote from: sneamia2 on February 19, 2007, 06:27:33 PM
Like my sig says on my old acc, they'll say one of the following:  optical illusions, dark matter, anti-matter, dark energy, the Force, or an Ice Wall.

Once again, this is why I chose this subject. Being visible to the naked eye like it was cuts away a lot of those options.
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2007, 06:39:21 PM »
No, not really.  Optical illusions are able to be perceived with the naked eye, as are the effects of dark matter/energy (don't remember the diff).  So yea.
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2007, 07:00:31 PM »
What makes you think supernovas are problematic in the FE theory?
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2007, 07:06:52 PM »
Quote from: GeoGuy on February 19, 2007, 07:00:31 PM
What makes you think supernovas are problematic in the FE theory?

Because I find it hard to believe that the flat gas "spotlight" of 32 miles in diameter you claim we have can explode into a sphere and destroy at least this solar system?
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2007, 07:12:24 PM »
And? What makes you think the sun is a star?
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2007, 07:13:42 PM »
Quote from: GeoGuy on February 19, 2007, 07:12:24 PM
And? What makes you think the sun is a star?

Because its made of the exact same elements of a star and functions the same. I'm sorry  I believe i asked for logical anwsers. Was that part not clear enough for you?
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2007, 07:19:03 PM »
Quote from: Christopher Columbo on February 19, 2007, 07:13:42 PM
Because its made of the exact same elements of a star and functions the same. I'm sorry  I believe i asked for logical anwsers. Was that part not clear enough for you?
What makes you think the suns functions the same as other stars? Obviously if astronomers were wrong about its shape we shouldn't expect them to be right about the rest of it, should we?

Of course, as I myself see no reason why the sun cannot be round in the FE theory it really doesn't matter.
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2007, 07:22:51 PM »
Quote from: GeoGuy on February 19, 2007, 07:19:03 PM
What makes you think the suns functions the same as other stars? Obviously if astronomers were wrong about its shape we shouldn't expect them to be right about the rest of it, should we?

Of course, as I myself see no reason why the sun cannot be round in the FE theory it really doesn't matter.

So your saying that things subjected to extreme pressures don't give off energy which can come in the form of heat and light?
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2007, 07:27:57 PM »
Quote from: Christopher Columbo on February 19, 2007, 07:22:51 PM
So your saying that things subjected to extreme pressures don't give off energy which can come in the form of heat and light?

What makes you think the sun in subjected to these extreme pressures?
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2007, 07:41:41 PM »
Quote from: GeoGuy on February 19, 2007, 07:27:57 PM
What makes you think the sun in subjected to these extreme pressures?

Well I gave you a working sun theory based on the "spotlight" theory I see pitched out by the FAQ and most of the main FE'ers:

Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?"

A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator, located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions similar to a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light," the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions.

In the "accelerating upwards" model, the stars, sun and moon are also accelerating upwards.

The stars are about as far as San Francisco is from Boston. (3100 miles)


And it seems I missed a part of the FAQ myself more exactly this: The stars are about as far as San Francisco is from Boston. (3100 miles).

That alone creates a problem for Supernovas in the FE theory since they wipe out entire solar systems when they go off. Perhaps you should think a really long and hard time before you post again since this is truely impossible to challenge with a logical anwser or a mere question?
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2007, 07:44:40 PM »
I'm not challenging anything. I'm simply asking to see your evidence, as you haven't given any.

And as I said, despite what you've read in the FAQ, I do not believe the sun and moon to be flat.
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2007, 07:47:02 PM »
This is rather related to the subject, thought I'd post it here instead of making a new topic.  Since stars aren't accelerating up (they're accelerating away in all directions, which rules out UA as the cause), that means that all stars must have very nearly or exactly the same mass as our sun, moon, and the Earth, right?  Because if they had more or less mass, they would accelerate more or less, and they would fall behind us or accelerate ahead of us at a faster rate then us(assuming I stayed awake in physics [I did]).  What, exactly, ARE stars then, that can cause supernovae visible from Earth with the naked eye, but that are extremely close or equal to the mass of our sun?
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2007, 07:49:30 PM »
Quote from: GeoGuy on February 19, 2007, 07:44:40 PM
I'm not challenging anything. I'm simply asking to see your evidence, as you haven't given any.

And as I said, despite what you've read in the FAQ, I do not believe the sun and moon to be flat.

I'm sorry, do at LEAST hundreds of thousands of people who could see a Supernova with the naked eye not count? Or with telescopes? Since I know that pictures don't count. I would believe this alone is cold hard proof.
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2007, 07:51:55 PM »
I didn't ask for evidence of supernovas now, did I? I seem to remember asking about why you thought they a problem for the FE theory, why you thought the sun was a star, and why you thought the sun should have the same functions and properties as all the other stars.
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2007, 08:04:12 PM »
Quote from: GeoGuy on February 19, 2007, 07:51:55 PM
I didn't ask for evidence of supernovas now, did I? I seem to remember asking about why you thought they a problem for the FE theory, why you thought the sun was a star, and why you thought the sun should have the same functions and properties as all the other stars.

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And it seems I missed a part of the FAQ myself more exactly this: The stars are about as far as San Francisco is from Boston. (3100 miles).

That alone creates a problem for Supernovas in the FE theory since they wipe out entire solar systems when they go off. Perhaps you should think a really long and hard time before you post again since this is truely impossible to challenge with a logical anwser or a mere question?


I'm sorry I just pointed out my problem with them in the theory had you actually read my posts instead of breaking down into Tom Bishop mode and started typing without reading. And lets go over this again for you since you must be slow.

Stars = Objects of a solar system (tending to have planets orbiting them) that are made of helium and hydrogen and perform the function known as fusion, which gives off light and heat.

The Sun = an Object that gives off light and heat (yes heat believe it or not) and thats made of those same two elements called helium and hydrogen.

Wow  sounds pretty close to each other eh?  Hey guess what?  THEY ARE. If you wanna prove me wrong read the first two posts of this whole thread before you post again. I asked for LOGICAL ANWSERS not questions.
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2007, 08:13:53 PM »
Quote from: Christopher Columbo on February 19, 2007, 08:04:12 PM

Stars = Objects of a solar system (tending to have planets orbiting them) that are made of helium and hydrogen and perform the function known as fusion, which gives off light and heat.

The Sun = an Object that gives off light and heat (yes heat believe it or not) and thats made of those same two elements called helium and hydrogen.

That's what I want evidence for. It's easy to just say the sun and stars are made of hydrogen and helium, but can you prove it?
And if you can, what relevance does it have to the FE theory? As I said, I don't believe the sun and moon to be flat.
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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2007, 08:25:43 PM »
Quote from: GeoGuy on February 19, 2007, 08:13:53 PM
That's what I want evidence for. It's easy to just say the sun and stars are made of hydrogen and helium, but can you prove it?
And if you can, what relevance does it have to the FE theory? As I said, I don't believe the sun and moon to be flat.

1. I've stopped refering to them as flat, pay attention Tom jr.

2. Do a google for it we got it to work for 0.0001 seconds or something like that. Or better yet go try and perform it yourself, let me know how it works out.

3. The relevance that you seem keen on not seeing is that means that it will explode at some point  and when it does how is this 32 mile in diameter ball supposed to wipe out at least this solar system?

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Re: Supernovas in the FE theory
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2007, 08:28:38 PM »
Why must it wipe out the entire solar system?
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