are all planets flat?

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are all planets flat?
« on: January 17, 2006, 04:43:45 PM »
what about the other planets?  is mars flat?

what about stars?  is the sun flat?

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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2006, 05:28:19 PM »
Please, Marcus. That would be CRAZY. ;-)

Seriously though, what do you think flat-earthers?

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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2006, 11:24:48 AM »
The sun, most likely not since it's basically a fireball. The moon maybe though. The same side of the moon always faces the Earth no matter what. Does no one wind it slighlty unlikely that it happens to be rotating and orbiting at the exact speeds that would cause the two to, in effect, cancel out and only show one side? The moon therefore, may very well be flat. As for other planets, who know. Gas giants are probably round due simply to their make-up, but other like mars or mercury, I don't think there would be any way of telling.

And so ends my final post as a flat-earther. You guys obviously aren't able to answer even the simplest of questions, so why should I continue to do the work for you if I don't believe it myself?

Prepare to get destroyed  8-)

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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2006, 11:54:20 AM »
Quote from: "alex2539"
The sun, most likely not since it's basically a fireball. The moon maybe though. The same side of the moon always faces the Earth no matter what. Does no one wind it slighlty unlikely that it happens to be rotating and orbiting at the exact speeds that would cause the two to, in effect, cancel out and only show one side? The moon therefore, may very well be flat. As for other planets, who know. Gas giants are probably round due simply to their make-up, but other like mars or mercury, I don't think there would be any way of telling.


so some planets/moons/stars are flat and others are not?  but i was reading how our planet moves upwards (to explain why things fall) all the time but then if some planets were round then what do they do?  are there seperate laws of physics for each planet?  I'm a little confused here.

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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2006, 02:00:12 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2006, 05:25:03 PM »
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but i was reading how our planet moves upwards (to explain why things fall) all the time but then if some planets were round then what do they do?
Then you obviously didn't read the whole thing. There are a million reasons as to why that's wrong. Completely wrong. So wrong it's borderline idiotic.

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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2006, 06:19:39 PM »
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but i was reading how our planet moves upwards (to explain why things fall) all the time but then if some planets were round then what do they do?
Then you obviously didn't read the whole thing. There are a million reasons as to why that's wrong. Completely wrong. So wrong it's borderline idiotic.

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well all the topics dealing with the problem of gravity for a flat earth that i read said that the flat earth moves upwards....maybe i didn't read *all* the topics, but i don't see a point in reading past 10 seperate topics if they are all saying the same thing.

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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2006, 10:59:40 PM »
to answer the first questions: yes all planets and bodys in space are flat. just look at the waxing and waning of the moon, ITS OBVIOUS!

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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2006, 10:31:19 AM »
Quote from: "Crass"
to answer the first questions: yes all planets and bodys in space are flat. just look at the waxing and waning of the moon, ITS OBVIOUS!


ok, if the moon is flat, then why at certian times does the surface of the moon look different but later it will look the same as it was before?  Does it have multiple flat surfaces that rotate for us to view?

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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2006, 11:06:57 AM »
The idea of the moon being lit by the sun at night is simply ludicrous.  If it's dark, it's because there's no sunlight: so how could light be hitting the moon?  Think about it.

Clearly, the whole point of the space program was to place giant lamps on the moon that could be remote-controlled from secret radio stations in Colorado, Alaska, and Archangelsk, and other unknown locations.  The so-called "phases" of the moon correspond to different configurations of lit and unlit lamps.

The moon is of course a flat disc revolving around the Earth within its own heavenly sphere.  You can't "land" on the moon any more than you can land on the ceiling of the room you're sitting in.  So while the Russians were putting the lamps on the moon (the Luna missions), the U.S. was orchestrating "landings" to divert our attention away from the lamp operation.

This explains why the French hate Americans so much: the truth of moon lamp conspiracy has forced them to admit that all their precious culture involving ballads mentioning the full moon, or paintings containing crescent moons, etc., was all faked by a team of scientists in a think-tank in Maryland.

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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2006, 02:12:01 PM »
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what about the other planets? is mars flat?

what about stars? is the sun flat?


To answer the original poster:

All planets are probably flat, but who knows?  The Heavens may be laid out any way God wants.  The stars are so tiny.... go out and buy the biggest, most expensive telescope you can get and look at them.  They're still little points of light.  Scientists like to say they're big balls of gas burning brightly billions of miles away, but there's no observational evidence.  For all we know, they could be holes poked in a bit blanket.  I'm not saying that's what they are, but my point is, I dunno.

Anyway, the Sun probably is too.  Again, there's no good evidence, though since sunspots travel around it, it may be a sphere or coin-shaped.  

The Moon, though you don't mention it in your question, obviously is, as only one side is ever visible.  That is, unless, it rotates the Earth and, at the same time spins exactly in synch to keep it facing the Earth.  Bucko, you have a better chance at winning the lotterey than something as unlikely as that just happening, so I'm going to drop the (admitedly over-used) Occam's Razor and say the simplest solution is most likely right.  It's flat.

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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2006, 08:10:17 AM »
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what about the other planets? is mars flat?

what about stars? is the sun flat?


To answer the original poster:

All planets are probably flat, but who knows?  The Heavens may be laid out any way God wants.  The stars are so tiny.... go out and buy the biggest, most expensive telescope you can get and look at them.  They're still little points of light.  Scientists like to say they're big balls of gas burning brightly billions of miles away, but there's no observational evidence.  For all we know, they could be holes poked in a bit blanket.  I'm not saying that's what they are, but my point is, I dunno.

Anyway, the Sun probably is too.  Again, there's no good evidence, though since sunspots travel around it, it may be a sphere or coin-shaped.  

The Moon, though you don't mention it in your question, obviously is, as only one side is ever visible.  That is, unless, it rotates the Earth and, at the same time spins exactly in synch to keep it facing the Earth.  Bucko, you have a better chance at winning the lotterey than something as unlikely as that just happening, so I'm going to drop the (admitedly over-used) Occam's Razor and say the simplest solution is most likely right.  It's flat.



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ok, if the moon is flat, then why at certian times does the surface of the moon look different but later it will look the same as it was before?  Does it have multiple flat surfaces that rotate for us to view?

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2006, 09:47:30 AM »
It always looks the same to me... I mean, sometimes the shadows are different... but that's about it.

I didn't realize that was even a point of contention... doesn't everyone know that you see the same face of the moon?

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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2006, 09:58:06 AM »
Quote from: "Hardhead"
It always looks the same to me... I mean, sometimes the shadows are different... but that's about it.

I didn't realize that was even a point of contention... doesn't everyone know that you see the same face of the moon?


well, when you look at it in different parts of the world and different periods of time it has different features on the "face" of it.

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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2006, 12:49:43 PM »
I'm interested.  Can you post some pictures?

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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2006, 12:58:21 PM »
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The idea of the moon being lit by the sun at night is simply ludicrous. If it's dark, it's because there's no sunlight: so how could light be hitting the moon? Think about it.

Clearly, the whole point of the space program was to place giant lamps on the moon that could be remote-controlled from secret radio stations in Colorado, Alaska, and Archangelsk, and other unknown locations. The so-called "phases" of the moon correspond to different configurations of lit and unlit lamps.

The moon is of course a flat disc revolving around the Earth within its own heavenly sphere. You can't "land" on the moon any more than you can land on the ceiling of the room you're sitting in. So while the Russians were putting the lamps on the moon (the Luna missions), the U.S. was orchestrating "landings" to divert our attention away from the lamp operation.

This explains why the French hate Americans so much: the truth of moon lamp conspiracy has forced them to admit that all their precious culture involving ballads mentioning the full moon, or paintings containing crescent moons, etc., was all faked by a team of scientists in a think-tank in Maryland.

-Erasmus


Unless you have a reason for them to have gone to all the trouble to do this, your argument is based in nothingness, and is, therefore, meaningless.

You flat-earthers have so much almost-fact to rely on, why do you keep falling back on conspiracy theories to combat legitamite science?

And this joker:

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The sun, most likely not since it's basically a fireball. The moon maybe though. The same side of the moon always faces the Earth no matter what. Does no one wind it slighlty unlikely that it happens to be rotating and orbiting at the exact speeds that would cause the two to, in effect, cancel out and only show one side? The moon therefore, may very well be flat. As for other planets, who know. Gas giants are probably round due simply to their make-up, but other like mars or mercury, I don't think there would be any way of telling.

And so ends my final post as a flat-earther. You guys obviously aren't able to answer even the simplest of questions, so why should I continue to do the work for you if I don't believe it myself?

Prepare to get destroyed  8-)


Its good that you can be so cocky and collected when you have no actual facts backing up your statements, only meaningless opinions that smack of forty-five minutes in a middle-school earth science course, which you've beautifully mangled into a series of claims which are not only baseless, but presented by you in a manner that is aggravating simply because you compose your posts as if your words were fact.

The earth is round. Get over it. There is no reason for a conspiracy, which therefore means there isn't one, not to mention that theories are not a basis for argument in a debate of any kind. Additionally, none of you have given any actual scientifically researched facts as evidence. If you can't find any, there's probably a reason for it, that reason being that your cause was lost centuries ago. Until one of you brings some fact to the table, in the form of science, and stop stabbing into the dark with your idiotic conspiracy theories and baseless claims, I suggest you shut up. I'm all for debate, but both sides of a debate have to have something. Round earthers thus far have, to quote the aforementioned joker,
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the flat earthers into the ground with facts, research, and science.

To sum up my post for those of you flat-earthers who seem to skip down to the last line of any rebuttal before posting your argument to it,

Get some facts, don't rely on conspiracies, prove what you are saying, or shut the hell up.

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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2006, 01:32:16 PM »
Quote from: "Prince"
Unless you have a reason for them to have gone to all the trouble to do this, your argument is based in nothingness, and is, therefore, meaningless.


Actually in some post someplace I came up with a truckload of great reasons why the Cold War superpowers would want to go through all this trouble.  I mean, if the logical impossibility of "landing on the moon" isn't enough for you.

Quote from: "Prince"
You flat-earthers have so much almost-fact to rely on, why do you keep falling back on conspiracy theories to combat legitamite science?


Don't know you know that your so-called "legitimate science" is socially constructed by a patriarchal, imperialist culture?

Quote from: "Prince"
your cause was lost centuries ago.


Actually, it was only in the 60's that brilliant, rational men and women realized the errors in routhEarthism.  The idea that up until a few centuries ago, everybody knew the Earth to be flat is (and on this point I'm being serious) a fairly recently-invented myth.  Scholars as long ago as the ancient Greeks believed that the Earth was round.  It was the influence of the Catholic Church and of Romantic-era dreamers that spawned the common misconception of ignorant medieval thinkers, convinced the world was flat.

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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2006, 01:08:30 PM »
Hi,

On the subject of the moon being flat/round (and note; I'm a round earthist, so this opinion may be biased).

I'm an astronomy student, and part of my course involves photographing the moon. Recently I took a photograph and it is clear beyond doubt that the moon is round; the features bend towards the edges, and some can clearly be seen to be at an angle. I took these photographs myself (so no doubting their authenticity).

Was the post about the moon being lit up serious? It just seemed a bit tongue in cheek and, well, crazy (not that I mean to insult anyone's beliefs...).

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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2006, 02:13:38 PM »
Quote from: "Norminator"
Hi,

On the subject of the moon being flat/round (and note; I'm a round earthist, so this opinion may be biased).

I'm an astronomy student, and part of my course involves photographing the moon. Recently I took a photograph and it is clear beyond doubt that the moon is round; the features bend towards the edges, and some can clearly be seen to be at an angle. I took these photographs myself (so no doubting their authenticity).

Was the post about the moon being lit up serious? It just seemed a bit tongue in cheek and, well, crazy (not that I mean to insult anyone's beliefs...).


by you saying this all the flat-earthers now know you are a government spy [sic].

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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2006, 02:16:10 PM »
Cool, always wanted to be a spy  :D

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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2006, 02:17:51 PM »
Quote from: "Norminator"
Cool, always wanted to be a spy  :D


all non-flat-earthers seem to be spys here.

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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2006, 02:25:39 PM »
Any idiot with a telescope can see the curves at the edges of the moon etc.

If the moon isn't round, then what are these curves? Is it a giant cardboard cut out of a 'round' moon put into orbit (or whatever it is in a flat Earth) by the U.S.S.R. and the U.S.A.?

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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2006, 02:27:53 PM »
Yeah, duh...!

If the planets are flat, and we see them, they must be at a different angle... how does that work?

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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2006, 02:29:26 PM »
since all planets are moving "upwards" and we see the flat part, then all planets must be moving towards us.  this might be a problem when they hit the earth.

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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2006, 02:32:08 PM »
Hang on! What is causing this upward motion? Another government conspricy? Did this U.S.A. put gaint rockets on all the planets to cause this?

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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2006, 02:37:02 PM »
Quote from: "Nugget_N"
Hang on! What is causing this upward motion? Another government conspricy? Did this U.S.A. put gaint rockets on all the planets to cause this?


it's how god made the earth.

the world government that is hiding the flatness is just protecting us from the truth.

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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2006, 04:13:40 PM »
But why would they hide us from the truth? I really don't get why they would do this.

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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2006, 04:33:38 PM »
Quote from: "Norminator"
But why would they hide us from the truth? I really don't get why they would do this.


we will never know, according to what i've read...

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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2006, 11:42:55 PM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Clearly, the whole point of the space program was to place giant lamps on the moon that could be remote-controlled from secret radio stations in Colorado, Alaska, and Archangelsk, and other unknown locations.  The so-called "phases" of the moon correspond to different configurations of lit and unlit lamps.

-Erasmus


Dood, what happened all those years before the russians and the american's lauched "lamps" to light the moon at night?

e.g. it has been documented that ancient egyptians, greeks, chinese etc have observed the moon as we see it now obviously much before the americans and the russians even had the chance to tamper with anything.

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« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2006, 11:49:22 PM »
Quote from: "newty82"
it has been documented that ancient egyptians, greeks, chinese etc have observed the moon as we see it now


............ All fake.

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