Earth's Shadow

asphalt roads are fundamentally smooth

The Gvernment must be rubbing them roads down with baby oil

Please explain gravity.  I have been waiting for an RE'er to do it for 10 months.

Answer: "the force of attraction between all masses in the universe; especially the attraction of the earth's mass for bodies near its surface."
Source: omnipotent forces of Google

Your wait is now over.

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Please provide evidence of the shadow object's existence.

For direct observational evidence take look at the crescent moon on any night.

I see a shadow but no resulting shadow object. You lose once again, Tom. Sorry.

Quote from: MooBs on February 19, 2007, 02:56:41 PM

Provide evidence of the shadow object, back this evidence up with maths and science. Thanks.

The shadow object obscures moon in the picture you posted. What kind of 'maths and science' is necessary to prove this?

Don't you mean the shadow of the Shadow Object obscures the moon.  Because if it was purely the Shadow Object (excluding its shadow), a silhouette of the Shadow Object would be shown.

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 23, 2007, 02:27:11 PM

Please explain gravity.  I have been waiting for an RE'er to do it for 10 months.

Answer: "the force of attraction between all masses in the universe; especially the attraction of the earth's mass for bodies near its surface."
Source: omnipotent forces of Google

Your wait is now over.

Yep, still waiting.

Quote from: Troll on March 12, 2007, 07:34:53 PM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 23, 2007, 02:27:11 PM

Please explain gravity.  I have been waiting for an RE'er to do it for 10 months.

Answer: "the force of attraction between all masses in the universe; especially the attraction of the earth's mass for bodies near its surface."
Source: omnipotent forces of Google

Your wait is now over.

Yep, still waiting.

If you are wondering what causes gravity, its merely just the property of mass. If you are still waiting for that special someone, Tom Bishop is available.  You should discuss with him about how gravity from the moon effects tides.

If you are wondering what causes gravity, its merely just the property of mass. If you are still waiting for that special someone, Tom Bishop is available.  You should discuss with him about how gravity from the moon effects tides.

A property of mass?  Then how can it affect stuff without mass?

Quote from: Troll on March 12, 2007, 08:24:28 PM

If you are wondering what causes gravity, its merely just the property of mass. If you are still waiting for that special someone, Tom Bishop is available.  You should discuss with him about how gravity from the moon effects tides.

A property of mass?  Then how can it affect stuff without mass?

Because mass bends spacetime, which you already know.   

Because mass bends spacetime, which you already know.   

But he said:

the force of attraction between all masses in the universe

Quote from: sokarul on March 12, 2007, 08:53:54 PM

Because mass bends spacetime, which you already know.   

But he said:

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the force of attraction between all masses in the universe

Which is still right.  Since anything with mass has gravity.  But he should of said something about masses affecting things with no mass too. 

But gravity does not exist.  Only acceleration.

But gravity does not exist.  Only acceleration.

But it does.  It had been seen and proven.  Thats why the came up with an equation for it.  I already drew you a picture. 

That picture illustrates acceleration, not gravity.

That picture illustrates acceleration, not gravity.

How are two objects not moving accelerating?   

The light sure is accelerating.

The light sure is accelerating.

O I see what your saying, because its curving, but what is causing it?  Mass.  And thats not how you use acceleration.
Not to mention the light is actually going straight and not curving,  your coordinate system is wrong.  But you already knew that.

Added: Stop contradicting yourself.  If its accelerating then you agree mass cause what people call gravity.  And thus the Earth would have gravity and the 9.8m/s/s acceleration that comes from that magical force you call UA.   

Quote from: TheEngineer on March 12, 2007, 09:47:40 PM

The light sure is accelerating.

O I see what your saying, because its curving, but what is causing it?  Mass.  And thats not how you use acceleration.

No, it's the curvature of spacetime that causes it.

Quote from: sokarul on March 12, 2007, 09:50:19 PM

Quote from: TheEngineer on March 12, 2007, 09:47:40 PM

The light sure is accelerating.

O I see what your saying, because its curving, but what is causing it?  Mass.  And thats not how you use acceleration.

No, it's the curvature of spacetime that causes it.

Which is curved by mass.

And acceleration.

And acceleration.

Acceleration doesnt curve spacetime.

If the Equivalence Principle is to hold true, it sure as hell better.

If the Equivalence Principle is to hold true, it sure as hell better.

Yeah bu tthat doesnt mean it bends spacetime. 
Im sure you know the space elevator thought experiment or do I need to explain it? 

Since he is offline I will post it.  Anyone can comment on it.

The space elevator thought experiment.  Imagine a elevator accelerating at 9.8m/s/s in space.  You could do any experiment in that elevator and get the same results as you would get here on Earth, thus equivalence.   Now shine a laser from one wall to the other.  You would see nothing.  Now make the elevator one light year wide.  Shine the same laser from wall to wall.  The laser would never make it to the other wall.  It would bend and hit the floor.  The laser light is not curving, rather it appears to curve.  There is no force on the laser beam.  There is your equivalence between gravity and acceleration.  But they are not truly the same.

Yeah bu tthat doesnt mean it bends spacetime. 

Sure it does.

If one were to read on some physics, one could see TheEngineer is obviously right.
So shut up.

You guys didnt even read the experiment.  It does not bend spacetime. 

You didn't read the experiment.
You fail.

You guys didnt even read the experiment.  It does not bend spacetime. 

Then EP is false, as there is a local experiment that could be performed to differentiate between gravity and acceleration, and General Relativity is false, as not all frames of reference are equivalent.

Quote from: sokarul on March 13, 2007, 11:22:02 AM

You guys didnt even read the experiment.  It does not bend spacetime. 

Then EP is false, as there is a local experiment that could be performed to differentiate between gravity and acceleration, and General Relativity is false, as not all frames of reference are equivalent.

What experiment would that be?  Pull your compass out of your pocket?