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« Reply #60 on: February 18, 2007, 01:35:21 PM »
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Mechanism of time, bitch.

Time is defined however we want it to be.  That's like saying what's the mechaninsm for length.


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« Reply #61 on: February 18, 2007, 01:35:55 PM »
Still no explaination for GPS without satellites in practice.

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« Reply #62 on: February 18, 2007, 01:36:36 PM »
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But there are no transmitters on Earth.

I've seen all kind of transmitters on earth.  My cell phone for one.


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« Reply #63 on: February 18, 2007, 01:37:09 PM »
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Still no explaination for GPS without satellites in practice.

Still no explanation for why the transmitter must be in orbit.


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« Reply #64 on: February 18, 2007, 01:37:30 PM »
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Says who?


Says me untilk you prove they are there. How else could you have come to the conclusion that they are there unless you had proof. Oh wait I forgot this was a conspiracy. Conclusion Y comes first then everything else is "...X must be the case because of conclusion Y..."

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« Reply #65 on: February 18, 2007, 01:38:53 PM »
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Still no explaination for GPS without satellites in practice.

Still no explanation for why the transmitter must be in orbit.


I didn't say it had to but you said that it definitely isn't so I'd like you to explain. I've explained (or can explain) how RE GPs works. Time for you to explain how FE GPS works. In full.

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« Reply #66 on: February 18, 2007, 01:40:24 PM »
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But there are no transmitters on Earth.

I've seen all kind of transmitters on earth.  My cell phone for one.


Oh dear.

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« Reply #67 on: February 18, 2007, 01:41:25 PM »
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Still no explaination for GPS without satellites in practice.

Still no explanation for why the transmitter must be in orbit.

Burden of proof is on you.
 once saw a video of a monkey washing a cat, that's CRAZY!!
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« Reply #68 on: February 18, 2007, 01:45:16 PM »
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Mechanism of time, bitch.

Time is defined however we want it to be.  That's like saying what's the mechaninsm for length.

Length is not an action or a force, it is a measurement of space.
Length does not inherently exist, it is a human invention.

Time observably exists, and can be manipulated by gravity.
Time is the method you use for accurately triangulating position using millions of cell phones.
EXPLAIN THE MECHANISM, OR YOU CANNOT BELIEVE IN TIME!
 once saw a video of a monkey washing a cat, that's CRAZY!!
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« Reply #69 on: February 18, 2007, 01:46:06 PM »
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Still no explaination for GPS without satellites in practice.

Still no explanation for why the transmitter must be in orbit.

Burden of proof is on you.

Quote from: "I"
he speed of light + accurate clock + known position + calculator = location.


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« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2007, 01:47:41 PM »
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I've explained (or can explain) how RE GPs works. Time for you to explain how FE GPS works. In full.

I have many times.  It is no different than the RE way.  I would like to hear your explanation including why the transmitters must be in orbit for it to work.


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« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2007, 01:47:45 PM »
Still no explaination of how FE GPS works. I don't think this guy knows. Maybe some head honcho will come and explain it for us.

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« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2007, 01:49:30 PM »
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Still no explaination for GPS without satellites in practice.

Still no explanation for why the transmitter must be in orbit.

Burden of proof is on you.

Quote from: "I"
he speed of light + accurate clock + known position + calculator = location.

penis + chinese guy + plutonium + a balloon = nucrear frusion
Proof? Or wild claim?
 once saw a video of a monkey washing a cat, that's CRAZY!!
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« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2007, 01:50:08 PM »
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Mechanism of time, bitch.

Time is defined however we want it to be.  That's like saying what's the mechaninsm for length.

Length is not an action or a force, it is a measurement of space.
Length does not inherently exist, it is a human invention.

Time observably exists, and can be manipulated by gravity.
Time is the method you use for accurately triangulating position using millions of cell phones.
EXPLAIN THE MECHANISM, OR YOU CANNOT BELIEVE IN TIME!

According to Einstein, "Time exists so that everything doesn't happen at once."  Time is basically what a clock reads.  Time dilation is due to the way we measure time.


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« Reply #74 on: February 18, 2007, 01:50:40 PM »
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I've explained (or can explain) how RE GPs works. Time for you to explain how FE GPS works. In full.

I have many times.  It is no different than the RE way.  I would like to hear your explanation including why the transmitters must be in orbit for it to work.


For the second time, I didn't say they must be in orbit. Please quote me saying this.

Please explain in full how FE GPS works in practice. Where are all the giant GPS towers. There should be millions of them all over the Earth yet I don't see any. I used my GPS today in my car yet there are no giant GPS towers anywhere near me.

Still waiting for explaination that won't come. Don't ask me to explain anything because I have already explained and I'm the one asking you to prove FE GPS. You have already seen how RE GPS works.

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« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2007, 01:51:33 PM »
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Still no explaination of how FE GPS works. I don't think this guy knows. Maybe some head honcho will come and explain it for us.

There is a thread titled "GPS satellites???"  in which I explained in detail how it works.  I've already given you the condensed version.  So where is your explanation?


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« Reply #76 on: February 18, 2007, 01:54:22 PM »
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Mechanism of time, bitch.

Time is defined however we want it to be.  That's like saying what's the mechaninsm for length.

Length is not an action or a force, it is a measurement of space.
Length does not inherently exist, it is a human invention.

Time observably exists, and can be manipulated by gravity.
Time is the method you use for accurately triangulating position using millions of cell phones.
EXPLAIN THE MECHANISM, OR YOU CANNOT BELIEVE IN TIME!

According to Einstein, "Time exists so that everything doesn't happen at once."  Time is basically what a clock reads.  Time dilation is due to the way we measure time.

"My penis exists to penetrate your mom."
Did I just explain the mechanism of how I had sex with your mother last week?
No?

EXPLAIN THE MECHANISM!
 once saw a video of a monkey washing a cat, that's CRAZY!!
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« Reply #77 on: February 18, 2007, 01:59:34 PM »
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Still no explaination of how FE GPS works. I don't think this guy knows. Maybe some head honcho will come and explain it for us.

There is a thread titled "GPS satellites???"  in which I explained in detail how it works.  I've already given you the condensed version.  So where is your explanation?


Just looked for it and found it to be many pages long and full of people saying exactly what you're saying here over and over again. So please for the love of God just explain to me where the GPS signals come from/go to on a Flat Earth. Please tell me where all the giant GPS towers are and why their signals aren't distorted but the light coming from the fake horizon is. Please just answer one question with a straight answer for once in your life. It's not that hard. If you want to ask me a question that's fine ask me all night long but please answer my one first before you do.

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« Reply #78 on: February 18, 2007, 02:05:48 PM »
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So please for the love of God just explain to me where the GPS signals come from/go to on a Flat Earth.

Just like in the RE, they come from a transmitter and go to a receiver.
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Please tell me where all the giant GPS towers are

I never said the signals came from towers, but it is possible.
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and why their signals aren't distorted but the light coming from the fake horizon is.

Why are signals from your 'satellites' not affected by the atmosphere but visible light is?


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« Reply #79 on: February 18, 2007, 02:41:25 PM »
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Since when is flying in a circle around the north pole, around the earth from Dallas, or Rio De Janeiro, or from Tazmania the same distance?


Back to the original problem already, sheesh. Anyway...

Because, and for the fricken fifth time already... NOT IN A CIRCLE, IN A STRAIGHT LINE. On a round earth this would be around the entire planet by going straight ahead. On a flat earth, you would either have to travel in a circle to get back to where you came from, or fly straight into the ice wall.

Get it yet? Or is this simple question too much for a FE to understand?

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« Reply #80 on: February 18, 2007, 02:43:46 PM »
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Since when is flying in a circle around the north pole, around the earth from Dallas, or Rio De Janeiro, or from Tazmania the same distance?


Back to the original problem already, sheesh. Anyway...

Because, and for the fricken fifth time already... NOT IN A CIRCLE, IN A STRAIGHT LINE.

Then you will be in space.


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« Reply #81 on: February 18, 2007, 03:17:36 PM »
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So please for the love of God just explain to me where the GPS signals come from/go to on a Flat Earth.


Just like in the RE, they come from a transmitter and go to a receiver.

Yeah....okay....hmmm....You see the problem here is you know exactly what I'm asking and you have the past several times I've asked but because you don't have any answer or explaination as to where the GPS signals come from and go to you just say the equivalent of "they go where they go and come from where they come from". I don't know if I should dumb down the question any more I might insult you by accident but really what i want to know is, concentrate now, WHERE ARE THE GPS TRANSMITTERS THAT MY GPS COMPUTER IN MY CAR COMMUNICATES WITH?

You might have to re-read it a few times but I think it's pretty simple.

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Please tell me where all the giant GPS towers are

I never said the signals came from towers, but it is possible.

Yes you did say the signals came from towers because that's what the forum's official stance is on the matter and that's where you reffered me. Yet we still see no towers so that's that theory out the window. Anyway finally we can move on from this. Glad you finally saw sense on this one.


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and why their signals aren't distorted but the light coming from the fake horizon is.

Why are signals from your 'satellites' not affected by the atmosphere but visible light is?


Oh no, you lost all your lives. You answered a question with a question. And not only that it was an incomprehensible question too! Never mind, you might get how discussions work one day. I doubt it but it's possible i suppose.

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« Reply #82 on: February 18, 2007, 03:34:47 PM »
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WHERE ARE THE GPS TRANSMITTERS THAT MY GPS COMPUTER IN MY CAR COMMUNICATES WITH?

Like I've said, they can be in a multitude of places.  Towers, and ligher than air platforms to name a couple.


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