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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2007, 12:39:49 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2007, 12:40:57 PM »
yes we "know" this so then when I take and measure out a "level" piece of ground and fire a laser across it why is it that the "relative" elevation of the laser increases in correspondence to the round earth "theory" i.e. the laser goes straight and ignores the curvature of the earth thus "increasing" it's relative elevation.
he earth IS round, there IS a God, and you can't accurately prove a negative. (i.e. the earth is NOT round)

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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2007, 12:42:37 PM »
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There is no part of GPS that requires the transmitter to be in orbit.


So wherever you are on Earth you're always within GPS distance of at least three magical giant radio towers that are also invisible?

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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2007, 12:43:42 PM »
Robotham would disagree.


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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2007, 12:44:36 PM »
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There is no part of GPS that requires the transmitter to be in orbit.


So wherever you are on Earth you're always within GPS distance of at least three magical giant radio towers that are also invisible?

Did I say that?  I stated that there is no part of the GPS location process that requires the transmitter to be in orbit.


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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2007, 12:47:01 PM »
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There is no part of GPS that requires the transmitter to be in orbit.


So wherever you are on Earth you're always within GPS distance of at least three magical giant radio towers that are also invisible?

Did I say that?  I stated that there is no part of the GPS location process that requires the transmitter to be in orbit.

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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2007, 12:47:05 PM »
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There is no part of GPS that requires the transmitter to be in orbit.


So wherever you are on Earth you're always within GPS distance of at least three magical giant radio towers that are also invisible?

Did I say that?  I stated that there is no part of the GPS location process that requires the transmitter to be in orbit.


But they are. Get a telescope point it towards one and you will see.
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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2007, 12:48:17 PM »
so how high are these towers? if they are constructed at the "ice wall" then why do they not obscure stars viewed through them? if you say they are invisible I will have to laugh and point at someone who has had a lobotomy. If it exsists it consists of matter, all matter can be measured, and will affect all other matter.
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2007, 12:50:38 PM »
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There is no part of GPS that requires the transmitter to be in orbit.


So wherever you are on Earth you're always within GPS distance of at least three magical giant radio towers that are also invisible?

Did I say that?  I stated that there is no part of the GPS location process that requires the transmitter to be in orbit.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/gps.htm
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What part of the location process requires the transmitter to be in orbit?


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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2007, 12:52:11 PM »
Can I just ask why the Radio waves from the giant invisible magic radio towers aren't distorted by the magical atmosphere that makes it look as though there is a horizon.

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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2007, 12:53:35 PM »
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Can I just ask why the Radio waves from the giant invisible magic radio towers aren't distorted by the magical atmosphere that makes it look as though there is a horizon.

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Perhaps the part that says there aren't millions of giant radio towers providing GPS locations to everyone on the planet.

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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2007, 12:53:40 PM »
The accurate to within yards part.
The part that without satellites there would have to be hundreds of towers taller than anything on earth, including everest, spread around the planet, even protruding from the ocean.
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« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2007, 12:54:48 PM »
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The accurate to within yards part.

Nope.  That part is due to very accurate clocks.

Try again.


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« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2007, 12:56:51 PM »
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The accurate to within yards part.

Nope.  That part is due to very accurate clocks.

Try again.


So your telling me that pretty much my atomic clock is infact a GPS device even though it only tells me what time i need to take pills or go to sleep.
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« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2007, 12:58:54 PM »
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The accurate to within yards part.

Nope.  That part is due to very accurate clocks.

Try again.


Do explain how GPS works on a flat Earth then I'd love to know. Don't just say "Radio towers" I want as detailed an explaination as I could give you for how it works with satelites.

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« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2007, 12:59:20 PM »
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The accurate to within yards part.

Nope.  That part is due to very accurate clocks.

Try again.


So your telling me that pretty much my atomic clock is infact a GPS device even though it only tells me what time i need to take pills or go to sleep.

Nope.  However, they are the reason GPS is so accurate.


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« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2007, 01:00:28 PM »
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The accurate to within yards part.

Nope.  That part is due to very accurate clocks.

Try again.

Explain the mechanism for time.
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« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2007, 01:01:24 PM »
What mechanism?


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« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2007, 01:13:09 PM »
The mechanism where accurate clocks can give your location on a rf gps tranciever.
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« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2007, 01:15:35 PM »
The speed of light + accurate clock + known position + calculator = location.


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« Reply #50 on: February 18, 2007, 01:20:19 PM »
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What mechanism?

How does time work?
What is the mechanism for time?
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« Reply #51 on: February 18, 2007, 01:24:19 PM »
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What mechanism?

How does time work?
What is the mechanism for time?

The second law of thermodynamics.


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« Reply #52 on: February 18, 2007, 01:27:32 PM »
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The speed of light + accurate clock + known position + calculator = location.


Where does the known position come from? Known from what source? Also Known position = location.

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« Reply #53 on: February 18, 2007, 01:27:43 PM »
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What mechanism?

How does time work?
What is the mechanism for time?

The second law of thermodynamics.

Entropy requires time.
The mechanism for time can't be time.
That's unpossible.

EXPLAIN THE MECHANISM FOR TIME, OR YOUR THEORY OF RADIO TOWER GPS IS BULLSHIT

Also, draw me a diagram of your radio towers working with under a million of them.
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« Reply #54 on: February 18, 2007, 01:30:21 PM »
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The speed of light + accurate clock + known position + calculator = location.


Where does the known position come from? Known from what source? Also Known position = location.

Known position of the transmitter.  It can come from wherever it wants to.


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« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2007, 01:31:25 PM »
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What mechanism?

How does time work?
What is the mechanism for time?

The second law of thermodynamics.

Entropy requires time.
The mechanism for time can't be time.
That's unpossible.

There is no mechanism for it.  However we choose to measure it is how it's defined.


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« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2007, 01:31:29 PM »
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The speed of light + accurate clock + known position + calculator = location.


Where does the known position come from? Known from what source? Also Known position = location.

Known position of the transmitter.  It can come from wherever it wants to.


But there are no transmitters on Earth.

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« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2007, 01:31:56 PM »
Says who?


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« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2007, 01:32:40 PM »
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The speed of light + accurate clock + known position + calculator = location.


Where does the known position come from? Known from what source? Also Known position = location.

Known position of the transmitter.  It can come from wherever it wants to.

Mechanism of time, bitch.
Gravity is not to be believed in until the mechanism is known, neither is time to be believed.
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« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2007, 01:34:04 PM »
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Says who?

Says 7 billion people that haven't seen any 'taller than everest' radio towers.
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