Den Pressure vs Pin Art Board Please Explain

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JackBlack

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Re: Den Pressure vs Pin Art Board Please Explain
« Reply #120 on: May 19, 2023, 03:36:52 PM »
ok alors peut-être que vous aimeriez que je vous réponde dans cette langue vu que vous ne pensez pas que je parle anglais.
You aren't speaking any known language, as you just ignore the meaning of words.

Again, why doesn't helium just magically transmute back into air, just like steam transmutes into water?

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Den Pressure vs Pin Art Board Please Explain
« Reply #121 on: May 20, 2023, 03:17:32 AM »
If den pressure had any truth, it would solve the helium criss. But alas.  Den pressure snake oil pushed by a con.  Just more empty promises. 

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sceptimatic

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Re: Den Pressure vs Pin Art Board Please Explain
« Reply #122 on: May 20, 2023, 06:43:04 AM »
ok alors peut-être que vous aimeriez que je vous réponde dans cette langue vu que vous ne pensez pas que je parle anglais.
You aren't speaking any known language, as you just ignore the meaning of words.

Again, why doesn't helium just magically transmute back into air, just like steam transmutes into water?
It's been explained and if you can't be bothered to read it then you'll always be typing this and I'll be overlooking it until I actually see you pay some real attention.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Den Pressure vs Pin Art Board Please Explain
« Reply #123 on: May 20, 2023, 06:44:19 AM »
If den pressure had any truth, it would solve the helium criss. But alas.  Den pressure snake oil pushed by a con.  Just more empty promises.
There is no helium crisis.
There is no crisis other than those perpetrated by others for monetary gain or control, in my opinion.

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JackBlack

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Re: Den Pressure vs Pin Art Board Please Explain
« Reply #124 on: May 20, 2023, 06:52:40 AM »
It's been explained
No, it hasn't.
If it had, I wouldn't need to keep asking.

You just asserted garbage that it had to go up higher to convert back.
But observations of water show that is garbage.

Again, why doesn't helium just magically transmute back into air, just like steam transmutes into water?
In order to explain this, you need to consider both at once.
You can't just focus on the helium, while ignoring the water, to pretend some delusional BS explains it which would also prevent water condensing near the ground.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Den Pressure vs Pin Art Board Please Explain
« Reply #125 on: May 20, 2023, 07:31:41 AM »
If den pressure had any truth, it would solve the helium criss. But alas.  Den pressure snake oil pushed by a con.  Just more empty promises.
There is no helium crisis.
There is no crisis other than those perpetrated by others for monetary gain or control, in my opinion.

Yes.  The world is running low on helium.

If den pressure has any credibility then you have a moral obligation to put den pressure to use to produce helium.  But you’re just as big a hack as those you claim are “perpetrated by others for monetary gain or control.”

Do  If helium is being removed from the “atmosphere” why isn’t it regenerating itself in the “atmosphere?” 🤔

It’s this another thing you’re a hypocrite on.  You just have an opinion without actually measuring the “equilibrium” of helium in “atmosphere”. 

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sceptimatic

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Re: Den Pressure vs Pin Art Board Please Explain
« Reply #126 on: May 20, 2023, 07:57:06 AM »
It's been explained
No, it hasn't.
If it had, I wouldn't need to keep asking.

You just asserted garbage that it had to go up higher to convert back.
But observations of water show that is garbage.

Again, why doesn't helium just magically transmute back into air, just like steam transmutes into water?
In order to explain this, you need to consider both at once.
You can't just focus on the helium, while ignoring the water, to pretend some delusional BS explains it which would also prevent water condensing near the ground.
I explained it a bit further back so go and take a look and stop pretending I didn't.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Den Pressure vs Pin Art Board Please Explain
« Reply #127 on: May 20, 2023, 08:03:04 AM »
Yes.  The world is running low on helium.
No it's not.

Quote from: DataOverFlow2022
If den pressure has any credibility then you have a moral obligation to put den pressure to use to produce helium.
It's already happening but you just think the operations to produce it require gravity on a spinning globe and whatnot.



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If helium is being removed from the “atmosphere” why isn’t it regenerating itself in the “atmosphere?” 🤔
Because it's now helium.
All it can do from that point is be displaced and repacked back to Earth to then require breaking down once again.



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It’s this another thing you’re a hypocrite on.  You just have an opinion without actually measuring the “equilibrium” of helium in “atmosphere”.
We can't get up there to measure it. Only in movies and in books and whatnot, written by those who tell us all kinds of fairy stories.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Den Pressure vs Pin Art Board Please Explain
« Reply #128 on: May 20, 2023, 08:18:29 AM »

 No it's not.

Yes.  The world’s supply of helium is going to be used up faster than it is being created by radioactive decay.


It's already happening but you just think the operations to produce it require gravity on a spinning globe and whatnot.


How? Again..

It’s this another thing you’re a hypocrite on.  You just have an opinion without actually measuring the “equilibrium” of helium in “atmosphere”. 



Because it's now helium.
All it can do from that point is be displaced and repacked back to Earth to then require breaking down once again.


You love to contradict yourself.

Use your advice.

Read what was an actually posed.




We can't get up there to measure it. Only in movies and in books and whatnot, written by those who tell us all kinds of fairy stories.


Then how is helium collected.

Let’s follow your logic..

“No it's not.” “We can't get up there to measure it. ”  “Because it's now helium.” “repacked back to Earth”


If it can’t measured because “we can’t get up there.” how is it being collected? And if it’s up there, then how is this possible “repacked back to Earth”?

And what the hell is “Because it's now helium.” mean in the context of what was it before.  And whatever it is before, why can’t I put it in a tank and get helium. 

And what is the rate of equilibrium.  And if helium is being removed.  Then what is being broken down.
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JackBlack

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Re: Den Pressure vs Pin Art Board Please Explain
« Reply #129 on: May 20, 2023, 04:33:27 PM »
I explained it a bit further back so go and take a look and stop pretending I didn't.
No, you didn't.
You provided garbage which was quickly refuted.

Again, if your garbage was true and helium can't magically switch back at atmospheric pressure, then water can't either, instead water would need to go up high into the atmosphere to take its place before falling back down.

Again, stop trying to come up with an excuse for any tiny little bit of reality in complete isolation from the rest of your garbage.
If you want an explanation you need a coherent model, you need to have statements made be transferrable.

You don't have that, so you don't have an explanation.

Either helium should be able to convert back near sea level, or steam can't.

That is why there are 2 parts to the question:
Why doesn't helium just magically transmute back into air, just like steam transmutes into water?

To explain it, you need to address both.
You need to explain why water will switch back, without needing to go to its equilibrium level while helium just goes up.

And the simple fact is you can't, while mainstream science can.