Lunar eclipse notes

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Lunar eclipse notes
« on: November 15, 2022, 02:52:28 AM »
I would like to point out..  I dont know exactly what is happening with the lunar eclipse..  but when I put something in my shadow,  no matter how I adjust the light, the object in my shadow does not turn red.  Also, note that a lunar eclipse can happen while the moon and sun are both visible in the sky..

I dont know what is going on..  more info would be needed to come to a conclusion.. I dont feel.comfortable enough on any of my theories to present them..I can only point out that something doeant make sense with the "official story".
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Re: Lunar eclipse notes
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2022, 02:59:01 AM »
I would like to point out..  I dont know exactly what is happening with the lunar eclipse..  but when I put something in my shadow,  no matter how I adjust the light, the object in my shadow does not turn red.  Also, note that a lunar eclipse can happen while the moon and sun are both visible in the sky..

I dont know what is going on..  more info would be needed to come to a conclusion.. I dont feel.comfortable enough on any of my theories to present them..I can only point out that something doeant make sense with the "official story".

What's the "official story"?

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Re: Lunar eclipse notes
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2022, 03:02:38 AM »
I would like to point out..  I dont know exactly what is happening with the lunar eclipse..  but when I put something in my shadow,  no matter how I adjust the light, the object in my shadow does not turn red.  Also, note that a lunar eclipse can happen while the moon and sun are both visible in the sky..

I dont know what is going on..  more info would be needed to come to a conclusion.. I dont feel.comfortable enough on any of my theories to present them..I can only point out that something doeant make sense with the "official story".

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The only light reaching the moon’s surface will first pass through the Earth’s atmosphere, which is why the moon will take on a red hue. Just how red it appears will depend on how dusty the Earth’s atmosphere is.

https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2022/nov/07/total-lunar-eclipse-blood-moon-how-where-when-what-time-to-see-watch-november-2022-full-moon-australia-new-zealand


Why the ancient Greeks would wonder if the earth was casting a circular shadow on the moon why they would think the earth is spherical?  When a spherical earth also explains why a boat disappears bottom up as it goes over the horizon? 

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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2022, 03:11:17 AM »
Yes, only light reaching "this and that"...  but any object in my own shadow is not turning red..  "rules for thee but not for me"..  if you get what I'm saying...  I'm on my way to bed..  I will ponder and come back later.

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2022, 03:24:49 AM »
Btw..  I'm playing with the idea that there is a cloud of Tektites shards or some other reflective/semi transparent "dust" up there that is responsible for the red color...  but as I said, I'm not comfortable enough with the theory to put any kind of theoretical weight on it..  just presenting it here incase it might be a missing piece to someone else's puzzle.   Problem being..  sure..  some kind of filter or reflective trick (I can reflect white light onto a red piece of glass and the reflected light will have a red hue)..  but where is the light coming from to filter through the "dust cloud " to cast into the moon.  More puzzles.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2022, 03:43:30 AM »
Your shadow is quite small, and you don't have an atmosphere of your own.
A good comparison is this:

We see the glass appears blue because of light scattering at high angles.
And the "shadow" has light which was scattered much less, being red or orange.

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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2022, 09:52:44 AM »
Yes, only light reaching "this and that"...  but any object in my own shadow is not turning red..  "rules for thee but not for me"..  if you get what I'm saying...  I'm on my way to bed..  I will ponder and come back later.
Do you have a very thick atmosphere around your body to filter out light that wasn't already being filtered before it made it to your atmosphere?

Re: Lunar eclipse notes
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2022, 12:43:55 PM »
Also, note that a lunar eclipse can happen while the moon and sun are both visible in the sky.

There are always points on Earth where during a lunar eclipse you can see the sun in the sky at the same time ... the question is whether there is an observer there.

Your ideas of what *should* be happening are based on some assumptions that are not necessarily true ... for one, that light always travels in a straight line. It does not.

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Re: Lunar eclipse notes
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2022, 02:47:22 PM »
Yes, only light reaching "this and that"...  but any object in my own shadow is not turning red..  "rules for thee but not for me"..  if you get what I'm saying...  I'm on my way to bed..  I will ponder and come back later.

Light reaching “this and that” is exactly what you’re asking about.  The same rules of physics apply, but the situations are very different and give different results.

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Re: Lunar eclipse notes
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2022, 11:14:12 PM »
I will be watching the lunar eclipse to laugh at those globularists who think they can see both the sun and the moon while the earth beneath their feet getting in between the sun and the moon.
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2022, 11:51:05 PM »
I will be watching the lunar eclipse to laugh at those globularists who think they can see both the sun and the moon while the earth beneath their feet getting in between the sun and the moon.
Notice how it is the Earth beneath their feet, and that they are not inside Earth?

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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2022, 12:33:29 AM »
I will be watching the lunar eclipse to laugh at those globularists who think they can see both the sun and the moon while the earth beneath their feet getting in between the sun and the moon.
Notice how it is the Earth beneath their feet, and that they are not inside Earth?
I notice everything. You who needs to notice the reality.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2022, 12:45:38 AM »
I notice everything. You who needs to notice the reality.
The reality of a RE, which trivially explains both lunar and solar eclipses?
Including why there will always be locations on Earth during a lunar eclipse which can see both the sun and the moon, and why the moon turns red during a lunar eclipse, and why a lunar eclipse is for everyone who sees the moon while a solar eclipse depends on location?

Unlike the FE, which can't explain why eclipses occur in the first place?

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Re: Lunar eclipse notes
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2022, 02:38:33 AM »
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Unlike the FE, which can't explain why eclipses occur in the first place?
No. Just as you would never see 99 percent of it if the face of the moon we see was light reflected from the sun.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2022, 02:49:24 AM »
No. Just as you would never see 99 percent of it if the face of the moon we see was light reflected from the sun.
99% of the circle, or of the (slightly less than) half of the sphere that is visible, or of the angular span that is visible?
Regardless, do you have the math to prove that?

Edit: gave another option, and slightly corrected the half sphere.
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2022, 04:04:02 AM »
No. Just as you would never see 99 percent of it if the face of the moon we see was light reflected from the sun.
99% of the circle, or of the (slightly less than) half of the sphere that is visible, or of the angular span that is visible?
Regardless, do you have the math to prove that?

Edit: gave another option, and slightly corrected the half sphere.
Oh sure. This was geometrically demonstrated on an autocad drawing, proven and published. But you are talking wast in vain.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2022, 04:09:33 AM »
No. Just as you would never see 99 percent of it if the face of the moon we see was light reflected from the sun.
99% of the circle, or of the (slightly less than) half of the sphere that is visible, or of the angular span that is visible?
Regardless, do you have the math to prove that?

Edit: gave another option, and slightly corrected the half sphere.
Oh sure. This was geometrically demonstrated on an autocad drawing, proven and published. But you are talking wast in vain.

2D or 3D modeling? 

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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2022, 04:14:24 AM »
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What Is a Partial Lunar Eclipse?







https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/partial-lunar-eclipse.html


Please quote what you think is wrong with the article, and provide physical supporting evidence.
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Re: Lunar eclipse notes
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2022, 12:15:11 PM »
Oh sure. This was geometrically demonstrated on an autocad drawing, proven and published. But you are talking wast in vain.
So it should be easy for you to clearly identify which of the 3 different options for 99% you are talking about, and then providing the proof.

Yet instead, you are just talking in vain, claiming it has been demonstrated, without actually proving it.

And which of the options also relates to what it should look like.