Water drops resemble the earth

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be_smooth

Water drops resemble the earth
« on: January 18, 2007, 07:47:19 PM »
Ok, I know that I am presupposing two things when I challenge your belief.
I presuppose, that you believe in gravity, and that you believe that the Earth is placed in a vacuum filled Space.

Now, to somehow prove that the Earth is round, I will take a drop of water as an example.
Have you ever studied the shape of a drop of water in freefall? I'll be so kind as to provide you with a couple of pictures: http://misheli.image.pbase.com/v3/29/547829/1/47304883.IMG_6591.jpg
http://k41.pbase.com/u18/ronnie_14187/upload/36165836.WaterDropsLatest50.jpg

As you can see, the tiny droplet of water in each picture is distinctly round in shape. This is because matter attracts matter. Now, since there is a certain amount of water molecules in said amount of water in freefall, these molecules will be attracted by each other, leading to the given amount of molecules joining with each other, shaping the drop of water.

There is a reason why the drop is shaped as it is.
If you draw a circle on a piece of paper, and measure the radius from any part of the periphery of the circle, you will find, that the distance from the periphery to the center of the circle always is the same. This means that anywhere on the periphery, the distance to the center is as short as anywhere else on the periphery.
Lets project this picture to the drop of water. Each molecule will travel towards the center of the drop with equal force. If each molecule pushes with equal force, the droplet will take the shape of a sphere.

Now, let's look at Earth. The Earth is an amount of matter existing in an immense vacuum filled space. The Earth is as close to free fall as anything. Even more than the drop of water I spoke of, since there is no air to break the fall of it, and misshape it. Let's assume, that gravity not only works for small amounts of matter, like a drop of water, but also for large amounts, like Earth for instance. If the same rules that apply for the drop of water, apply to the Earth, then logically, the matter of the Earth would travel with equal force towards the center of the Earth, making the Earth round!

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BOGWarrior89

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Re: Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2007, 08:00:52 PM »
Quote from: "be_smooth"
Ok, I know that I am presupposing two things when I challenge your belief.
I presuppose, that you believe in gravity, and that you believe that the Earth is placed in a vacuum filled Space.

There are multiple versions of the theory; at least one of them fit this model.  I'm going to use it.

Quote from: "be_smooth"
Now, to somehow prove that the Earth is round, I will take a drop of water as an example.
Have you ever studied the shape of a drop of water in freefall? I'll be so kind as to provide you with a couple of pictures: http://misheli.image.pbase.com/v3/29/547829/1/47304883.IMG_6591.jpg
http://k41.pbase.com/u18/ronnie_14187/upload/36165836.WaterDropsLatest50.jpg

The Conspiracy is keeping me from viewing these photographs, as it says "Forbidden: You don't have access to the server."

Quote from: "be_smooth"
As you can see, the tiny droplet of water in each picture is distinctly round in shape. This is because matter attracts matter.

That's exactly right, and is why there are three books and a chair orbiting me as we speak ...

Quote from: "be_smooth"
Now, since there is a certain amount of water molecules in said amount of water in freefall, these molecules will be attracted by each other, leading to the given amount of molecules joining with each other, shaping the drop of water.

There is a reason why the drop is shaped as it is.

It's aerodynamic?

Quote from: "be_smooth"
If you draw a circle on a piece of paper, and measure the radius from any part of the periphery of the circle, you will find, that the distance from the periphery to the center of the circle always is the same. This means that anywhere on the periphery, the distance to the center is as short as anywhere else on the periphery.

Yeah, that's why it's a circle ...

Quote from: "be_smooth"
Lets project this picture to the drop of water. Each molecule will travel towards the center of the drop with equal force. If each molecule pushes with equal force, the droplet will take the shape of a sphere.

That's why gravity is different at different altitudes, huh?

Quote from: "be_smooth"
Now, let's look at Earth. The Earth is an amount of matter existing in an immense vacuum filled space. The Earth is as close to free fall as anything. Even more than the drop of water I spoke of, since there is no air to break the fall of it, and misshape it.

That's how water droplets get to be the shape they are; the air resistance forces them into a more aerodynamic shape.

Quote from: "be_smooth"
Let's assume, that gravity not only works for small amounts of matter, like a drop of water, but also for large amounts, like Earth for instance. If the same rules that apply for the drop of water, apply to the Earth, then logically, the matter of the Earth would travel with equal force towards the center of the Earth, making the Earth round!

1)  Gravity is not responsible for the shape of water droplets.
2)  Different gravity at different altitudes.
3)  The Earth could have an incrediblely large structural integrity that keeps it from forming a sphere; besides, if it did form a sphere, we'd die.

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Rick_James

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Re: Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2007, 08:22:32 PM »
Quote from: "be_smooth"
Ok, I know that I am presupposing two things when I challenge your belief.
I presuppose, that you believe in gravity, and that you believe that the Earth is placed in a vacuum filled Space.


1. No
2. Yes

hope this helps you out.

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Re: Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2007, 08:23:13 PM »
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3)  The Earth could have an incrediblely large structural integrity that keeps it from forming a sphere; besides, if it did form a sphere, we'd die.


if we're on the inside. But we aren't.
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Atmosphere gets thinner with altitude
And so does your theory

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Re: Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2007, 08:38:08 PM »
Quote from: "be_smooth"
As you can see, the tiny droplet of water in each picture is distinctly round in shape. This is because matter attracts matter.


No it isn't, it's because of hydrogen bonding. It has nothing to do with gravity.
the cake is a lie

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be_smooth

Re: Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2007, 09:20:07 PM »
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Quote from: "be_smooth"
As you can see, the tiny droplet of water in each picture is distinctly round in shape. This is because matter attracts matter.


No it isn't, it's because of hydrogen bonding. It has nothing to do with gravity.


That is true.
Doesn't change anything about gravity affecting the shape of the Earth though.
Unless you don't believe in Gravity like Rick James of course... But would anybody care to explain to me then, why it is, that I fall to the ground if I jump from a height?

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GeoGuy

Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2007, 09:20:53 PM »
Earth is accelerating "upwards" at 9.8m/s^2, creating the effects we feel as gravity.

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Re: Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2007, 09:21:02 PM »
Quote from: "be_smooth"
Quote from: "dysfunction"
Quote from: "be_smooth"
As you can see, the tiny droplet of water in each picture is distinctly round in shape. This is because matter attracts matter.


No it isn't, it's because of hydrogen bonding. It has nothing to do with gravity.


That is true.
Doesn't change anything about gravity affecting the shape of the Earth though.
Unless you don't believe in Gravity like Rick James of course... But would anybody care to explain to me then, why it is, that I fall to the ground if I jump from a height?


The upward acceleration of the earth at 9.8 m/s/s.

Duh.

Edit:  Damn.  Beat me to it.
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Re: Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2007, 09:23:11 PM »
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Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
3)  The Earth could have an incrediblely large structural integrity that keeps it from forming a sphere; besides, if it did form a sphere, we'd die.


if we're on the inside. But we aren't.


I'm sure that, in the transformation from a disc to a ball, some people would perish.

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Erasmus

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Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2007, 11:27:02 PM »
"Space is filled with vacuum" lolz.
Why did the chicken cross the Möbius strip?

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Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2007, 11:30:47 PM »
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
Earth is accelerating "upwards" at 9.8m/s^2, creating the effects we feel as gravity.
Question... how can something be accelerating at a constant pace?

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TheEngineer

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Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2007, 11:34:50 PM »
How is that not possible?


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beast

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Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2007, 11:35:09 PM »
Are you serious?

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Re: Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2007, 11:43:14 PM »
Quote from: "dysfunction"
Quote from: "be_smooth"
As you can see, the tiny droplet of water in each picture is distinctly round in shape. This is because matter attracts matter.


No it isn't, it's because of hydrogen bonding. It has nothing to do with gravity.


lol, just finsished studying that....

three anomalous properties of water... 1, higher than expexted m/b point, 2, surface tension (making it round) 3, ice is less dense than water.
good old chem, eh?

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The Conspiracy is keeping me from viewing these photographs, as it says "Forbidden: You don't have access to the server."

LOL! me too!

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Re: Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2007, 03:05:47 AM »
Quote from: "be_smooth"
...that the Earth is placed in a vacuum filled Space.


That's if you ignore the ether (which unfortunately the conspiracy successfully discredited).

Quote from: "be_smooth"
As you can see, the tiny droplet of water in each picture is distinctly round in shape. This is because matter attracts matter. Now, since there is a certain amount of water molecules in said amount of water in freefall, these molecules will be attracted by each other, leading to the given amount of molecules joining with each other, shaping the drop of water.


That contradicts Philipp Lenard who determined that:

Quote from: "Wikipedia"
Small raindrops are nearly spherical. Larger ones become increasingly flattened on the bottom, like hamburger buns; very large ones are shaped like parachutes.*


Now think of a hamburger bun, the bottom is flat. Now think of the flat earth, the part of the earth facing the direction of travel is flat. I can already imagine that you'll try and refute this by claiming that the reason raindrops flatten because of wind resistance and that because space is a vacuum there's no resistance to cause the flattening... in which case you've forgotten about the ether again.

The earth is flat, if it was smaller it would be spherical, if it was larger it would be shaped like a parachute and we would be living in a bowl.

*Rain in nature

EDIT: In this picture you can see how in this drop of water the bottom is already beginning to flatten...


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be_smooth

Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2007, 05:10:27 AM »
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
Earth is accelerating "upwards" at 9.8m/s^2, creating the effects we feel as gravity.


Accelerating upwards, towards what, and why?

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midgard

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Water drops resemble the earth
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2007, 05:20:55 AM »
Do a search. There's already threads for that topic and it's off topic to this thread.