Twilight and Rayleigh Scattering on Flat Earth?

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Re: Twilight and Rayleigh Scattering on Flat Earth?
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2018, 02:20:11 PM »

... and that variability is known, measured, and then described by inverse square law (the part you "conveniently skipped").

If you "refuse to know" it won't disappear.
I do not care what you call it or why it occurs.
This is exactly the sort of deliberate ignorance that irks me the most about FE'ers.  >:(
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Re: Twilight and Rayleigh Scattering on Flat Earth?
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2018, 09:53:36 PM »

Do you question globe while blindly believe in flat, against observations and measurements?


No.

Ok. Thanks.

Now, let's try this thing together:

Does Sun shine in every direction, regardless the model?

Let's not.

I don't know what kind of bizarre protracted Socratic dialogue you feel compelled to try to draw me into, but I don't have the patience with you to play this kind of game.

Your OP fabricated a model and then discredited it.
That's called using a straw man.
I called you out for using a straw man.
Don't use straw man arguments. They are logical fallacies.

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Macarios

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Re: Twilight and Rayleigh Scattering on Flat Earth?
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2018, 02:50:09 AM »

Do you question globe while blindly believe in flat, against observations and measurements?


No.

Ok. Thanks.

Now, let's try this thing together:

Does Sun shine in every direction, regardless the model?

Let's not.   <--- fear of facts :)

I don't know what kind of bizarre protracted Socratic dialogue you feel compelled to try to draw me into, but I don't have the patience with you to play this kind of game.

Your OP fabricated a model and then discredited it.
That's called using a straw man.
I called you out for using a straw man.
Don't use straw man arguments. They are logical fallacies.

For each of the three models I clearly said "THIS ONE IS NOT how it might work".
And I asked anyone to replace any or all of the three non-working models with the working one.

Could there be such model? How would it look like?
Could you even force one?

Sunlight can either be directed or not (Sun can shine in all directions, or in cone shaped area).
Sunlight can either have unlimited reach, or limited (if limited, we can calculate where is the limit).
So, how many combnations there is?
Can we have unlimited number of combinations from limited number of elements?

In addition, if the sunlight is cone-shaped, it obviously becomes irrelevant if the reach of sun rays is limited or not.

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Speaking of your way of using the phrase "Socratic dialogue", you apparently don't even understand what was the essence of his dialogues, and why was he killed. :)
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When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
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Re: Twilight and Rayleigh Scattering on Flat Earth?
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2018, 10:42:20 AM »

Do you question globe while blindly believe in flat, against observations and measurements?


No.

Ok. Thanks.

Now, let's try this thing together:

Does Sun shine in every direction, regardless the model?

Let's not.   <--- fear of facts :)



I would like to hear what facts I "fear" and why I fear them.

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Macarios

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Re: Twilight and Rayleigh Scattering on Flat Earth?
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2018, 11:48:03 AM »

Do you question globe while blindly believe in flat, against observations and measurements?


No.

Ok. Thanks.

Now, let's try this thing together:

Does Sun shine in every direction, regardless the model?

Let's not.   <--- fear of facts :)



I would like to hear what facts I "fear" and why I fear them.

"Why" is your personal thing.

"What" was exactly what I wrote: how many possibilities there is and which they are.
I asked you to examine them together, and you refused, so I did it "all alone".

You are free to add more.
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
The main goal in all that is simplicity.

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Re: Twilight and Rayleigh Scattering on Flat Earth?
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2018, 04:39:31 AM »
Thank you for this thread.

I have been wondering if there is a flat earth model that fully explains observable behaviour of the Sun, but not been sure how to frame the question. For what it is worth I think you have been open and fair in your assessments of the common explanations.

Over to you, flat proponents, for a better model.