A Simple Level.

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rabinoz

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Re: A Simple Level.
« Reply #60 on: December 28, 2016, 03:34:55 PM »
No.I am telling you the animated bullshit in that video is not taking place. The Earth is not hurtling through space chasing around the Sun.

You are telling us me!  ;D What wonderful evidence  ;D !
Your trying to convince me that the sky was blue, would be enough to send me racing outside to double check!

Simply you saying somethings means nothing at all. Your not believing something is no evidence that is not true.

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Space Cowgirl

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Re: A Simple Level.
« Reply #61 on: December 28, 2016, 03:49:11 PM »
The late Terry Pratchett's "Discworld" shows why they look like elephant's legs.
Don't ask me what supports the turtle,  :P probably dark energy :P!

It's turtles all the way down, silly.

I don't see any more turtles, and by my Zetetic reasoning that means that there can't be any more! That proves that it  :P probably is dark energy :P!

I loved Discworld, but you do know that he didn't come up with the idea that the world rests on the back of a turtle?

No, I used to debate with a Jehovas Witness who insisted there were turtles all the way down. I believe this story has religious roots.

Even the Jehovah's didn't come up with that saying. The World Turtle is a more ancient belief, Terry Pratchett just borrowed it.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: A Simple Level.
« Reply #62 on: December 28, 2016, 04:03:54 PM »
No.I am telling you the animated bullshit in that video is not taking place. The Earth is not hurtling through space chasing around the Sun.

You are telling us!  ;D What wonderful evidence  ;D !
Your trying to convince me that the sky was blue, would be enough to send me racing outside to double check!

Simply you saying somethings means nothing at all. Your not believing something is no evidence that is not true.
No.I am telling you the animated bullshit in that video is not taking place. The Earth is not hurtling through space chasing around the Sun.

You are telling us!  ;D What wonderful evidence  ;D !
Your trying to convince me that the sky was blue, would be enough to send me racing outside to double check!

Simply you saying somethings means nothing at all. Your not believing something is no evidence that is not true.

Was the post written to you Geoff?

Was it?

Did I write, "I am telling you and Geoff and everyone else here the animated bullshit in that video is not taking place."?

The answer to that question is, "no."

Once more with clarity. Despite your assertions to the contrary, I do not accept the idea you are writing for each and every member here. When you write and use the word, "we," you are communicating that impression; that, or perhaps signifying you are royalty. Either way, it is poor form to claim the ability to answer for every member here or brag about your current order of precedence.

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Re: A Simple Level.
« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2016, 04:38:28 PM »
You did actually write "Anybody who believes that bullshit video is actually taking place needs their _ _ _ _ _ _ _ head examined.". And I for one assume that when you write "anybody", you do mean anybody in the strictest and quite frankly only meaning of the word.


Why exactly do you think that I need my head examined?
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Re: A Simple Level.
« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2016, 04:40:58 PM »
So how fast is the freefall? The speed of revolution and orbit notwithstanding.
Do you mean how fast is Earth travelling, or do you mean what is the free fall itself?
Earth is currently travelling around the sun at a rate of roughly 30 km/s.
We can determine the acceleration in 2 ways.
One is by using our orbit, the other is by using calculations for gravity.
Using our orbital velocity of 30 km/s, and our radius of 150 000 000 km, this gives an acceleration of 0.006 m/s^2.
Using more precise values, it gives 0.00593 m/s^2.
Using gravity, we get a value of 0.00593 m/s^2.

Does that answer your question?
Or ssomething like this:
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Anybody who believes that bullshit video is actually taking place needs their _ _ _ _ _ _ _ head examined.

Hello totallackey (i like the irony of your nickname anyway... :P),

So...are you telling me that we're living in something like this?




Oh my... ::)

No.I am telling you the animated bullshit in that video is not taking place. The Earth is not hurtling through space chasing around the Sun.
Well, you are somewhat right.
Those trails aren't left. The sun goes up and down in the galactic plane as well as its circular path.
I'm not sure if they get the angle right either.

But that pretty much does happen.

If you wish to assert those those that believe it does need to have their head examined, you will need to back up your claim.

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Re: A Simple Level.
« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2016, 06:06:02 PM »
It's an artistic rendering, just like NASA's pictures of the Globe. Amazing how they have differed so much over the years except for one thing...it retains it's absolutely perfect globe shape.
Ever think what you are saying? Obviously not. You mean this sort of thing?
Quote from: Mick West, Metabunk
This month NASA released a new photo of the Earth from space, taken from the DSCOVER satellite, 930,000 miles above the Earth. Some people have claimed that this new image shows an increasingly hazy Earth, and that this is evidence of an increase in pollution, or a secret geoengineering program (using "chemtrails"). Some more extreme theorist have suggested that the image is fake because the continents (particularly North America) appear to be a different size to earlier photos.

The misconception comes from a misunderstanding about how the photos are taken. This new 2015 image is noteworthy because it's the first time since 1972 that a good quality single image photograph has been taken of the Earth. The previous last image (in 1972) was taken by an astronaut from on board the Apollo 17 spacecraft during the last manned mission to the Moon. This was the first image called the "Blue Marble", although there had been similar images taken before (such as the 1967 images taken by the ATS3 satellite), the 1972 Blue Marble image became iconic, and remains the last such image taken by an actual person.

From Debunked: "Blue Marble" Photos show a Changing Earth
Yes, the continents that are visible depends on which part of the globe is facing the camera and their relative size depends on the distance from Earth that the photo was taken. To get most of the globe in the photograph the distance needs to be at least 20,000 miles, and even there almost 8° is missing, usually near the poles. See this simulation using a desktop globe:

Any more complaints?
Well it wasn't a complaint it was a statement, but yeah I've got one...How can the size of the continents change but the size of the globe doesn't? This was obviously staged, just like the NASA "photos", they are probably still laughing about it.

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rabinoz

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Re: A Simple Level.
« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2016, 06:32:57 PM »
No.I am telling you the animated bullshit in that video is not taking place. The Earth is not hurtling through space chasing around the Sun.

You are telling us me!  ;D What wonderful evidence  ;D !
Your trying to convince me that the sky was blue, would be enough to send me racing outside to double check!

Simply you saying somethings means nothing at all. Your not believing something is no evidence that is not true.

Was the post written to you Geoff?

Was it?

Did I write, "I am telling you and Geoff and everyone else here the animated bullshit in that video is not taking place."?
The answer to that question is, "no."

Once more with clarity. Despite your assertions to the contrary, I do not accept the idea you are writing for each and every member here. When you write and use the word, "we," you are communicating that impression; that, or perhaps signifying you are royalty. Either way, it is poor form to claim the ability to answer for every member here or brag about your current order of precedence.
There now Your Royal Highness, Totally Crappy I fixed that offending post. Always happy to oblige the local Royalty!

You do read an awful lot into one word! I do not "claim the ability to answer for every member here or brag about" my "current order of precedence."

Climb down off you high horse!

The post may not have been written TO me, to Geoff or even to Uncle Tom Cobley and all, but it was written on a public forum in answer to a post on a public forum.

But when you write utter crap in answer to anybody, I'll answer if I see fit and not be stopped by such as you!

Bye bye,

have a  :) nice day!  :)

PS As I told you before:
      "Clancy's gone to Queensland droving, and we don't know where he are." Geoff's gone with him and last I heard he they met up with a
      "Jolly swagman camped by a billabong,
       Under the shade of a Coolibah tree, singin' Waltzing Matilda."

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Re: A Simple Level.
« Reply #67 on: December 28, 2016, 06:39:20 PM »
The late Terry Pratchett's "Discworld" shows why they look like elephant's legs.
Don't ask me what supports the turtle,  :P probably dark energy :P!

It's turtles all the way down, silly.

I don't see any more turtles, and by my Zetetic reasoning that means that there can't be any more! That proves that it  :P probably is dark energy :P!

I loved Discworld, but you do know that he didn't come up with the idea that the world rests on the back of a turtle?

No, I used to debate with a Jehovas Witness who insisted there were turtles all the way down. I believe this story has religious roots.

Even the Jehovah's didn't come up with that saying. The World Turtle is a more ancient belief, Terry Pratchett just borrowed it.

I wasn't trying to say it originated with the Jehova's, I was illustrating the fact that this belief predates Pratchett's writings

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rabinoz

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Re: A Simple Level.
« Reply #68 on: December 28, 2016, 07:28:16 PM »
Yes, the continents that are visible depends on which part of the globe is facing the camera and their relative size depends on the distance from Earth that the photo was taken. To get most of the globe in the photograph the distance needs to be at least 20,000 miles, and even there almost 8° is missing, usually near the poles. See this simulation using a desktop globe:

Any more complaints?
Well it wasn't a complaint it was a statement, but yeah I've got one...How can the size of the continents change but the size of the globe doesn't? This was obviously staged, just like the NASA "photos", they are probably still laughing about it.

Do you mean to say that you really don't know the answer to "How can the size of the continents change but the size of the globe doesn't?"

The "the size of the continents" do not change and the "the size of the globe" does not change.

What changes is the sizes of the images of the continents. The focal length of the cameras used is set to give a suitable size of the whole globe.

Do you have a camera with a zoom lens?  Those photos of the desk globe were taken with the lens set to different focal lengths so as to keep the Globe about the same size.

Here are a couple of photos I took, not as good as those desk globe ones, but I know that these are just as taken - and you could easily do the same.

Tennis Ball - 35 mm equiv focal length = 24 mm
     

Tennis Ball - 35 mm equiv focal length = 500 mm

If you regard the seam on the tennis ball as a "continent", you can see how its proportion of the globe changes drastically from the close photo (24 mm) to the far one (500 mm). Yes, I know I didn't get the outsides of the ball exactly the same size, but I tried!

And I can imagine that in NASA it would be a case of "they are probably still laughing about it", if they only realised the absolute ignorance of FE earthers comments!

Well, I honestly tried to explain this simply concept to you. Please go and read up on focal length and perspective!

Maybe read up a bit in Learn My Shot, TELEPHOTO LENS PERSPECTIVE COMPRESSION AND THE ANGLE OF VIEW.

It has this video: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Telephoto Lens Compression Photography Technique that might be worth a look.

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rabinoz

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Re: A Simple Level.
« Reply #69 on: December 28, 2016, 07:34:49 PM »
The late Terry Pratchett's "Discworld" shows why they look like elephant's legs.
Don't ask me what supports the turtle,  :P probably dark energy :P!

That image of "Discworld" does not come directly from any of Terry Pratchett's work, but from a fan club for Terry Pratchett's "Discworld".

The site was Geekly Inc, ENTER THE DISCWORLD: GOODBYE TO SIR TERRY PRATCHETT

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Re: A Simple Level.
« Reply #70 on: December 28, 2016, 07:52:21 PM »
Well it wasn't a complaint it was a statement, but yeah I've got one...How can the size of the continents change but the size of the globe doesn't? This was obviously staged, just like the NASA "photos", they are probably still laughing about it.
It is called scaling.

The photos are scaled to show the object in question.
In some cases zooms are applies, potentially before the photo is even taken.

So no, they are not obviously staged or fake or the like.

And they don't actually change size, just apparent size.