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« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2006, 07:22:22 AM »
Quote from: "midgard"
Exactly, believing in Round Earth "science" doesn't make it any less about faith.

Of course. It would be faith if I didn't have proof that the Earth is round.

But I do. My proof is that the curvature of the Earth is clear from high altitudes. From a plane, it is obvious that the Earth drops off, and doesn't just fade out into the distance.

I also have several million photos to go by as well. You guys might claim that photos don't count as proof on this forum, but that doesn't make them any less proof in the real (round) world.

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Now instead of starting these pointless threads how about reading the material. You'll realise that you're wrong about Round Earth.

:lol: Of course we will. :roll:

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« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2006, 07:26:37 AM »
Quote from: "Masterchief2219"
Of course we will.


Good. There should be more of it.

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« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2006, 07:32:44 AM »
I left a response for you on page 2 midgard. i would like your opinion.

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midgard

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« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2006, 07:44:58 AM »
I would love to reply to you but you don't make any sense.

Let's start with some simple yes/no questions:
  • Do you believe Flat Earthers are Catholic?
  • Do you believe Catholicism created Flat Earth theory?
  • Do you believe that Flat Earth belief is fundamental to Catholicism?
A simple "yes" or "no" will help me start to understand what you're trying to say, then I can ask you more.

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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2006, 08:04:08 AM »
Quote from: "midgard"
I would love to reply to you but you don't make any sense.

Let's start with some simple yes/no questions:
  • Do you believe Flat Earthers are Catholic?
  • Do you believe Catholicism created Flat Earth theory?
  • Do you believe that Flat Earth belief is fundamental to Catholicism?
A simple "yes" or "no" will help me start to understand what you're trying to say, then I can ask you more.


No, i am comparing belief structures.
No, the scientist in 18th century did. (forgive me for forgetting his name)
How can it be fundamental since the belief in flat earth was believed before religion itself?

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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2006, 02:56:18 AM »
Quote from: "jbuck"
No, i am comparing belief structures.
No, the scientist in 18th century did. (forgive me for forgetting his name)
How can it be fundamental since the belief in flat earth was believed before religion itself?


Can you see the discrepancy between the second and third answer?

In the 2nd you said Flat Earth theory has been around only from the 18th century, in the 3rd you state that the belief has been around before religion itself.

The scientist you're talking about is Rowbotham. He proved that the Earth isn't round and that it is Flat. The cosmology he set out is different to the cosmology set out in the FAQ - if you'd bother to read either you'd know this.

All in all, none of that matters. The real question lies in the answer to your first question: "I am comparing belief structures."

To what end? In other words, why are you comparing belief structures? Are you hoping to point out that because the Catholic church dropped its stance on geocentrism (not flat earth/round earth) we should drop our belief in a Flat Earth? Or are you merely saying that we should be like you and have the same beliefs in the shape of the Earth as the Catholic Church?

What do you hope to achieve by comparing belief structures???

I have news for you:
The Catholic Church's belief was grounded in scripture.
Our belief is grounded in obvservations.

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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2006, 04:20:04 AM »
Quote from: "Masterchief2219"
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It's definitely a fact, why does it matter what the reason is?

"God definitely exists, why does it matter what the reason is?"

Truly believing it doesn't make it any less faith.


Quoting out of context is fun isn't it.  I was stating that it's definitely a fact that the majority of flat Earthers are Atheists.  Do you deny this?  That's completely different to stating that God definitely does or does not exist, or that the Earth is definitely flat.  I'm basing my statement that the majority of FEers are atheists on the countless polls that have been conducted on this forum regarding religion and have all shown that this is the case.  Unless you're an high school student philosopher, we have to accept the evidence that is presented to us in such a direct manner and that evidence always shows that flat Earth believers are also atheists.

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« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2006, 06:58:23 AM »
Which observations?

That the earth LOOKS flat when you stand on the ground? Not really? Really?

You know that the earth is big, do you? And that you're too fucking small to see the curve when you stand on it?
eel free to correct my language, thanks.

But if there aren't arguments there is ... THE CONSPIRACY! That's a practical little thing...

"In the grand scheme of things, those with the prettiest pictures will win." (Seriously)

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« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2006, 07:00:54 AM »
I got my own religion, its called "fucked up" its for people that belive in the Pyramid world or for sick people with hang of drugs and alchol problems.. haveing them all will just make it easyier to join! :D
fft who needs evidence when you can just say it's a conspiracy.
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Wise words of
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« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2006, 07:03:50 AM »
Yeh, apparently if something "looks" a certain way, it removes the need for actual evidence.
haseshifter was right when he said Watttttttup was right when he said joseph bloom is right, The Engineer is a douchebag.

PS This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated.

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« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2006, 10:18:06 AM »
Quote from: "Yeah, sure..."
Which observations?

That the earth LOOKS flat when you stand on the ground? Not really? Really?

You know that the earth is big, do you? And that you're too fucking small to see the curve when you stand on it?


again: WHICH OBSERVATIONS?
eel free to correct my language, thanks.

But if there aren't arguments there is ... THE CONSPIRACY! That's a practical little thing...

"In the grand scheme of things, those with the prettiest pictures will win." (Seriously)