Forces

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Dirk

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Forces
« on: April 12, 2018, 09:14:45 AM »
What FET forces are:
- keeping sun and moon near earth?
- keeping sun and moon from crashing into earth?
- keeping sun and moon circling above the earth?
- responsible for the peculiar movement of the sun to generate seasons?

This seems to be a rather complex and more importantly fragile 3 body system, which has very little chance to survive billions of years.

What FET forces are:
- responsible for tides? Not only at the region below the moon but also on the opposide side of the north pole (antipodal). With the moon very near to earth why is the tide effect not much greater directly below the moon? Or why is the effect not much lower more distant from the moon? How are tides possible with the moon being a hologram (see: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=75128.msg2047268#msg2047268 )?
- preventing the sun - which is not much farther away from earth than the moon - from causing tide effects as well?

Re: Forces
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2018, 10:21:16 AM »

This seems to be a rather complex and more importantly fragile 3 body system, which has very little chance to survive billions of years.


Some people would dispute that it only needs to have survived for 6022 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher_chronology

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wise

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Re: Forces
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2018, 11:25:30 AM »
If other rounders will not attack me like wild youths, so I want to reply it. Can you give me a guarantee of nobody will attack me.
He (somebody) is a troll homo playing role of girl.

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rabinoz

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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2018, 06:25:25 PM »
If other rounders will not attack me like wild youths, so I want to reply it. Can you give me a guarantee of nobody will attack me.
If you give a reasoned reply based on sound physics then no-one would attack you.
But if your explanation is not based on sound reasoning and evidence, then expect an appropriate reply criticising you answer.

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Re: Forces
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2018, 12:22:02 AM »
I don't see some posts, but in my opinion, they are waiting like wild dogs.
He (somebody) is a troll homo playing role of girl.

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Re: Forces
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2018, 02:35:38 AM »
Ahhh. Who started the insults?

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Red Bonar

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Re: Forces
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2018, 03:01:33 AM »
Wait a minute, are rounders wild youths or wild dogs?   I need to know so I can view the FE  response in the correct light. 

On the other hand, if the earth is round, why doesn't my son's basketball roll away? 

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Dirk

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Re: Forces
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2018, 02:27:07 PM »
On the other hand, if the earth is round, why doesn't my son's basketball roll away?

That is, becaus contrary to FET, RET allows the existence of gravity. This makes things easier to explain.

Why does your son’s basketball not stay in the air and even leaves earth if he throws it into the air? Is this because the earth disk moves up with 9.81 m/(s^2) as stated in FET FAQ of this website? If so, are objects with different masses affected differently by this unidirectional acceleration field? Wouldn’t this imply that earth, sun and moon now (capital letters) must have exactly (capital letters) the same mass?

Because of the acceleration field the earth disk, sun and moon already gained speed of light after less than one year. They are moving now at that high (capital letters) speed, that even the slightest (capital letters) change in mass could be catastrophic:
- additional mass because of meteorite impacts on earth
- loss of atmosphere
- loss of mass because of shooting rockets into space

Aren’t you afraid that the earth crashes into the sun because the sun’s acceleration and therefore velocity is reduced every moment because of loss of mass by radiation and solar eruptions and therefore affected differently by FET’s acceleration field?

Wait, if rockets (with less mass than earth) in space finish acceleration of their own, why does earth not crash into them? Is the rocket also accelerated by FET’s acceleration field with the same speed and acceleration as earth, sun and moon?

Why not your son’s basketball?
« Last Edit: April 15, 2018, 04:58:22 PM by Dirk »

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Re: Forces
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2018, 03:07:56 PM »
Dirk, you know you can actually TYPE the capital letters, RIGHT?

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rabinoz

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Re: Forces
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2018, 03:33:13 PM »
I don't see some posts, but in my opinion, they are waiting like wild dogs.
In other words, you have no answer to the questions in:
What FET forces are:
- keeping sun and moon near earth?
- keeping sun and moon from crashing into earth?
- keeping sun and moon circling above the earth?
- responsible for the peculiar movement of the sun to generate seasons?
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What FET forces are:
- responsible for tides? Not only at the region below the moon but also on the opposite side of the north pole (antipodal). With the moon very near to earth why is the tide effect not much greater directly below the moon? Or why is the effect not much lower more distant from the moon? How are tides possible with the moon being a hologram (see: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=75128.msg2047268#msg2047268 )?
- preventing the sun - which is not much farther away from earth than the moon - from causing tide effects as well?
Those seem very important and fundamental questions.

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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2018, 04:11:35 PM »
If other rounders will not attack me like wild youths, so I want to reply it. Can you give me a guarantee of nobody will attack me.
I promise you I will never attack you. I won’t even try to change your mind. All I want are explanations, though I likely will question some.

You can even attack me if you like. I won’t mind. I’d at least like to find 1 flat earth proponent willing to discuss. I thought there’d be more discussion. I don’t know any flat earth believers. Some in my church are young earth creationist, but no FE (at least not admitting it).

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Dirk

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Re: Forces
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2018, 05:15:57 PM »
Wait, if rockets (with less mass than earth) in space finish acceleration of their own, why does earth not crash into them? Is the rocket also accelerated by FET’s acceleration field with the same speed and acceleration as earth, sun and moon?

This would be to good to be true. Then you would have 1g gravity on each starship for free. No need for these spinning rings and anti-grav units.

And I already commented the benefit of 1g on the moon and all planets and exo-planets.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2018, 05:18:58 PM by Dirk »

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Dirk

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Re: Forces
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2018, 08:19:04 AM »
On the other hand, if the earth is round, why doesn't my son's basketball roll away?

Brotherhood of the Dome just wrote in another post, that most FEs do not agree with acceleration:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=75123.msg2048722#msg2048722

So, what even keeps your son’s ball and in fact your son (and everything else) to the ground and prevents it from floating into the sky?

Are we back to gravity?

Or do you have another explanation?
« Last Edit: April 17, 2018, 11:28:32 AM by Dirk »

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Yib

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Re: Forces
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2018, 04:05:55 PM »
If other rounders will not attack me like wild youths, so I want to reply it. Can you give me a guarantee of nobody will attack me.
I promise you I will never attack you. I won’t even try to change your mind. All I want are explanations, though I likely will question some.

You can even attack me if you like. I won’t mind. I’d at least like to find 1 flat earth proponent willing to discuss. I thought there’d be more discussion. I don’t know any flat earth believers. Some in my church are young earth creationist, but no FE (at least not admitting it).
Brother of the Dome,

I posted an invitation on the General forum asking for help with a sunrise observation measurement to see if we can triangulate the approximate position of the sun over the [flat] earth within the next couple of days.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=75099.msg2049475#msg2049475

Since you and I might be close to 12 hours apart, we could do this.

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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2018, 06:03:35 PM »
If other rounders will not attack me like wild youths, so I want to reply it. Can you give me a guarantee of nobody will attack me.

I think you are confusing being attacked with being disagreed with.  The purpose of a discussion is to hear all viewpoints and then come to an agreeable conclusion.  Your inability to consider information that does not agree with the conclusion you drew before having any information, makes you incapable of having a meaningful conversation.  You have no concern with being correct, you are only concerned with validation.

I see you constantly calling people idiots and insulting the intelligence of anyone who questions your delusions, yet you somehow feel like you get to be placed in a safe zone, immune to "attacks"?  The one sided rule enforcement on this forum only serves to perpetuate your delusional state.  You are on a discussion forum, not a dictation forum

I am very interested in what has caused you to withdraw from reality to the degree you have.

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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2018, 10:29:02 PM »
I don't see some posts, but in my opinion, they are waiting like wild dogs.

How do you know if you decided not to look? :)
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
The main goal in all that is simplicity.

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Dirk

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Re: Forces
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2018, 08:23:37 AM »
On the other hand, if the earth is round, why doesn't my son's basketball roll away?

Brotherhood of the Dome just wrote in another post, that most FEs do not agree with acceleration:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=75123.msg2048722#msg2048722

So, what even keeps your son’s ball and in fact your son (and everything else) to the ground and prevents it from floating into the sky?

Are we back to gravity?

Or do you have another explanation?

So, not even the slightest explanation to rescue Red Bonar's son from drifting into thin air?

And what about the other forces mentioned in my first post?