How will the world accept the truth?

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Rayzor

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2016, 12:48:39 AM »

It goes underneath, you silly goose.


It's always daytime some where on Earth,  so how can it go underneath?

No flat earth theory I've ever heard of has two suns,   you better read the wiki.    Or do you have your own version of the flat earth theory?

Just to help you out a bit here,  the flat earth theory says the sun is like a spotlight, and  it shines on a portion of the earth and circles around.  Actually it has to spiral, so as to account for the seasons.

But since you believe in multiple suns, I'd like to hear how that works.

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2016, 01:03:16 AM »

It goes underneath, you silly goose.


It's always daytime some where on Earth,  so how can it go underneath?

No flat earth theory I've ever heard of has two suns,   you better read the wiki.    Or do you have your own version of the flat earth theory?

Just to help you out a bit here,  the flat earth theory says the sun is like a spotlight, and  it shines on a portion of the earth and circles around.  Actually it has to spiral, so as to account for the seasons.

But since you believe in multiple suns, I'd like to hear how that works.

Truthfully, I may have been a tad presumptious saying there are definitively two suns. The truth is, us humans cannot fully understand the workings of nature. Whether or not there are two suns, we cannot say, but my personal theory is that there are two alternating suns, hence different parts of the earth being illuminated.

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2016, 01:17:03 AM »

It goes underneath, you silly goose.


It's always daytime some where on Earth,  so how can it go underneath?

No flat earth theory I've ever heard of has two suns,   you better read the wiki.    Or do you have your own version of the flat earth theory?

Just to help you out a bit here,  the flat earth theory says the sun is like a spotlight, and  it shines on a portion of the earth and circles around.  Actually it has to spiral, so as to account for the seasons.

But since you believe in multiple suns, I'd like to hear how that works.

Truthfully, I may have been a tad presumptious saying there are definitively two suns. The truth is, us humans cannot fully understand the workings of nature. Whether or not there are two suns, we cannot say, but my personal theory is that there are two alternating suns, hence different parts of the earth being illuminated.

Ok, so you're not a real flat earther,  you just thought it would be fun to come and pretend to be one,  so you could do a little trolling.   If you want lessons in trolling stick around, there are plenty here who would eat you just as a pre-lunch appetiser.   You don't stand a "ghost" of a chance. 

Come closer.....  click BOOM!   ....   now you are a real Ghost.

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2016, 01:22:15 AM »
Don't listen to this blind sheep. You are welcome here even though there are a lot trolls and paid shills here to torment us true believers. Welcome to TheGhost.
Thank you for the warm welcome, friend. I must say, it's surprising to see how many trolls are here. Definitely more than what I expected. As for the "paid shills" as you so delicately called them, I find them comically amusing. If the government/secret societies weren't afraid of the truth being accepted, they wouldn't need to hire these internet thugs. But alas, that's the tyranny we must endure.)
Sure I get the message! Anyone who disagrees with you is a troll, a paid shill and an internet thug!  Wow, such a reasoned way to discuss your case, but if you don't have a case I guess you use what you've got.
No, I am certainly not employed by anyone or paid by anyone (pity!)!  But, I have learnt a lot about the early development of the Heliocentric Globe Model and how and when the earth was measured since I came here!

Mind you to blatantly declare your views as the truth is being highly presumptive.  Once someone claims to have the truth, I immediately suspect that they are just pushing their personal ideas.

But, as I have written so often, fix your own house before worrying about the opposition.
How can you ever expect to be accepted when your model:
  • doesn't have a map that works.  You simply cannot expect acceptance without an accurate map!
  • doesn't get the observed directions of sunrise and sunset right.
  • cannot sensibly explain solar and lunar eclipses.
  • cannot explain how the sun and moon can stay the same size all the way from rising, the set behind the horizon.
  • cannot explain the observed (retrograde etc) motions of the planets.
  • cannot fit the observed dimensions of the earth onto a plane surface. It simply DOES NOT FIT!
  • cannot even properly explain gravity.
And the list goes on!
About the only argument you have is: "The earth looks flat so it must be!" - massive argument that!

The only other arguments you seem to come up with are negative things about parts of the globe you don't understand.  It seems to me like "I don't understand it, so it must be wrong!"

And then "But alas, that's the tyranny we must endure.", Oh, the pain, the pain -apologies to Fantasy Island.

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2016, 01:55:38 AM »
.......  you better read the wiki.

That is hilarious  :D
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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2016, 02:06:47 AM »
.......  you better read the wiki.

That is hilarious  :D

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2016, 02:30:56 AM »
.......  you better read the wiki.

That is hilarious  :D

Don't tell me we finally found something to agree on.     Wonders will never cease.

I was referring to wiki being your intellectual Bible    :D

That is hilarious   ;D


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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2016, 02:44:09 AM »
I was referring to wiki being your intellectual Bible    :D

That is hilarious   ;D

I wasn't aware you were also ignorant of flat earth theory,  so tell me about the two suns version of the flat earth model.    I'll get the popcorn.   

Or if you'd rather,  take option B, and explain how sunsets work on the flat earth,  you might risk exposing yourself as another who needs to read the wiki.  :)

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2016, 03:06:20 AM »
.......  you better read the wiki.
That is hilarious  :D
I would not be 100% sure, but I suspect that by "the wiki" Rayzor actually meant the Flat Earth Information Repository in http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?board=2.0] [url]http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?board=2.0[/url].
Had he meant Wikipedia, that's what he would have said!

Yes as you say it really is hilarious  :D

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2016, 03:16:00 AM »
Hi Rabinoz,

The number of flat earth youtube bunnies who haven't got the foggiest idea about flat earth theory is staggering,  numnuts like feuk,   ( who is mostly an incompetent  troll anyway )  wouldn't know his EA from his telluric currents, let alone a shadow object from a five-o-clock stubble. 

Yes, it really is hilarious.  bring on the youtube bunnies anytime.  Yum.


Hehe guess where feuk is right now,   why,  studying the wiki of course...   gotcha.
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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2016, 04:16:37 AM »
Hi Rabinoz,
The number of flat earth youtube bunnies who haven't got the foggiest idea about flat earth theory is staggering,  numnuts like feuk,   ( who is mostly an incompetent  troll anyway )  wouldn't know his EA from his telluric currents, let alone a shadow object from a five-o-clock stubble. 
Yes, it really is hilarious.  bring on the youtube bunnies anytime.  Yum.
Hehe guess where feuk is right now,   why,  studying the wiki of course...   gotcha.
But, do you think he has worked out which Wiki yet?
I think I can recognise the YouTube Mercenaries by now!  You know they come in like "newbies", then clearly do nothing but waste time, never really discuss anything!

What really gets me is the whole "accept the truth" idea, when they done have any idea what Flat Earth Model the believe anyway!

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2016, 05:41:49 AM »
Well,  you could go spend a day with a local surveyor,  and ask to help out on a geodetic survey.   They do it day in day out.   
Or you could explain why it is you can see further from a mountain top or a tall building.   

Maybe just watch a sunset, or sunrise.   

The proof of a round earth is right there,  you just need to look.

So, these surveying chaps can prove the earth is round? Do bring one here and have him share this elusive information in his grasp. I'll be most delighted to hear his tales.

It's not that you can see farther, it's the vantage point. There are no obstructions of your field of view whilst on a tranquil mountain. Go into a desert, where there is none of that pesky foliage clogging your retinas, and let your eyes wander. You'll see, (no pun intended) things are rather flat, and you can see quite a distance. Hmm, you might say, the same distance as from a mountain.  ;)

I've seen many sunsets and rises in my years, and none of them have shown me a round earth. To my apparently untrained eye, I must say the way the sun comes up lends credence to a flat earth. Much like a balloon rising over a table I believe, if you'll permit the analogy.

How does the sun set on a flat earth?

It goes underneath, you silly goose.

 
BOOK A FLIGHT TO ANTARCTICA RIGHT NOW.

No thanks, mate.

So...  It "Goes underneath."

Meaning the entire Earth would go dark simultaneously, as it would be BENEATH the Earth at that point.

Uh...  Nope.  That's not how that works.  See, there are these things called "Time Zones," and that dictates that when it's daylight in one place, it's night in another.  Very basic concept.  Don't have to be "Scientific" to figure that one out, just ring someone up or start a Skype chat with someone on the opposite side of the world from you.

There is no way that model works with reality.

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Didn't think I'd need to clarify for one that perceives himself to be a great scholar, but there are at least two suns. Surely you've read about all the "theories" we FE'rs believe. Oh, what's that? You didn't bother to study before you came here with your condescending attitude? My mistake.  :-X You seem rather blissful in your ignorance, but I do suppose that is what they say... ;)

Well, I read the FAQs, I've read several threads, and I've watched a crapload of YouTube videos.  None of them have brought up a "Two Sun" model.  One guy DID say a "Black Sun," which he also labeled as Niburu.  Most of the FE theories I see say the sun is 3000 miles up, 32 miles in diameter, and shines like a spotlight, but never actually goes UNDER the Earth.  So the insults about my not studying something first, I would say I'll wait for a retraction, but at this point I realize you're a troll, and a very poor one.

Also, I don't perceive myself as a "Great scholar."  I look up to and respect Alexander III of Macedon (i.e. "Alexander the Great.").  Last I checked, he was Emperor of the World, not a scholar.  His TEACHER, Aristotle, was.  And he has been reported to have said "Were I not Alexander, I would wish to be Diogenes," who of course, is the founder of Cynicism.

But, I thought having a picture of Alexander, quotes from him as my personal text and my signature would be quite enough to get that point across.  Hrm, didn't realized I'd have to explain it to someone so "enlightened" as to be able to talk down to anyone who don't know THEIR particular interpretation of the Flat Earth model, one which I should add, is either unique to you, or so roundly unaccepted (yes, that's a pun) by the majority as to not get a mention in this site's FAQ, most pages on it I've been able to google, or in ANY video of people trying to prove their point.

Ah well.

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2016, 08:30:52 AM »

It goes underneath, you silly goose.


It's always daytime some where on Earth,  so how can it go underneath?

No flat earth theory I've ever heard of has two suns,   you better read the wiki.    Or do you have your own version of the flat earth theory?

Just to help you out a bit here,  the flat earth theory says the sun is like a spotlight, and  it shines on a portion of the earth and circles around.  Actually it has to spiral, so as to account for the seasons.

But since you believe in multiple suns, I'd like to hear how that works.

Truthfully, I may have been a tad presumptious saying there are definitively two suns. The truth is, us humans cannot fully understand the workings of nature. Whether or not there are two suns, we cannot say, but my personal theory is that there are two alternating suns, hence different parts of the earth being illuminated.

Ok, so you're not a real flat earther,  you just thought it would be fun to come and pretend to be one,  so you could do a little trolling.   If you want lessons in trolling stick around, there are plenty here who would eat you just as a pre-lunch appetiser.   You don't stand a "ghost" of a chance. 

Come closer.....  click BOOM!   ....   now you are a real Ghost.

Of course, the age old assumption that because one does not claim to to be omniscient he/she must be a troll. Way to continue the discussion there, kid.

For your consideration:

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Among many more enlightening videos. Of course, I don't believe exactly as the educational videos state, but I've never been much of a sheep either. ;)

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2016, 08:52:56 PM »
I've believed in the earth being flat ever since I can remember. I was ridiculed in school for it, and later in life, co-workers and friends have tormented me over it.
And now you have come to a new place to be ridiculed.  Idiot.

Come now, do not sink to their levels!  Ad Hominem should be avoided whenever possible.  I understand, there are some instances in which trolls get to you--but rather than ridicule this individual, let's welcome them and find out WHY they believe that, and see if we can't work to change it.

If you drive them away before that opportunity...  That's sad.

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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2016, 09:54:07 PM »
I've believed in the earth being flat ever since I can remember. I was ridiculed in school for it, and later in life, co-workers and friends have tormented me over it.
And now you have come to a new place to be ridiculed.  Idiot.

Come now, do not sink to their levels!  Ad Hominem should be avoided whenever possible.  I understand, there are some instances in which trolls get to you--but rather than ridicule this individual, let's welcome them and find out WHY they believe that, and see if we can't work to change it.

If you drive them away before that opportunity...  That's sad.

The Light Must Shine.  You Can't Stop the Signal. 

Keep flying,
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Don't make fun of my roudie friend.  Not all roundies are as dumb as him.  He has a point every now and then.

I wasn't making fun of anyone.  I was suggesting that someone else not make fun of someone...  I'm not quite sure I follow you here.  What did I do wrong in this instance?  I was suggesting to let communication and ideas flow, is that not what "Free Thinkers" do?

Or am I wrong to tell someone to not engage in ad hominem attacks?

Your Move,
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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2016, 05:27:22 AM »
I've believed in the earth being flat ever since I can remember. I was ridiculed in school for it, and later in life, co-workers and friends have tormented me over it.
And now you have come to a new place to be ridiculed.  Idiot.

Come now, do not sink to their levels!  Ad Hominem should be avoided whenever possible.  I understand, there are some instances in which trolls get to you--but rather than ridicule this individual, let's welcome them and find out WHY they believe that, and see if we can't work to change it.

If you drive them away before that opportunity...  That's sad.

The Light Must Shine.  You Can't Stop the Signal. 

Keep flying,
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Don't make fun of my roudie friend.  Not all roundies are as dumb as him.  He has a point every now and then.

I wasn't making fun of anyone.  I was suggesting that someone else not make fun of someone...  I'm not quite sure I follow you here.  What did I do wrong in this instance?  I was suggesting to let communication and ideas flow, is that not what "Free Thinkers" do?

Or am I wrong to tell someone to not engage in ad hominem attacks?

Your Move,
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As much as CrabbyJim hates me, I will still defend his right to be an REtard 'till my dying breath.  It is people like you who make the other roundies seem like retard haters.  Why do you people have no sympathy for retards, like Jimmy?
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Re: How will the world accept the truth?
« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2016, 02:46:57 PM »
I've believed in the earth being flat ever since I can remember. I was ridiculed in school for it, and later in life, co-workers and friends have tormented me over it.
And now you have come to a new place to be ridiculed.  Idiot.

Come now, do not sink to their levels!  Ad Hominem should be avoided whenever possible.  I understand, there are some instances in which trolls get to you--but rather than ridicule this individual, let's welcome them and find out WHY they believe that, and see if we can't work to change it.

If you drive them away before that opportunity...  That's sad.

The Light Must Shine.  You Can't Stop the Signal. 

Keep flying,
~Xenos, Stranger in a Strange Land

Don't make fun of my roudie friend.  Not all roundies are as dumb as him.  He has a point every now and then.

I wasn't making fun of anyone.  I was suggesting that someone else not make fun of someone...  I'm not quite sure I follow you here.  What did I do wrong in this instance?  I was suggesting to let communication and ideas flow, is that not what "Free Thinkers" do?

Or am I wrong to tell someone to not engage in ad hominem attacks?

Your Move,
~Xenos, Stranger in a Strange Land

As much as CrabbyJim hates me, I will still defend his right to be an REtard 'till my dying breath.  It is people like you who make the other roundies seem like retard haters.  Why do you people have no sympathy for retards, like Jimmy?

Ad hominem attacks are ad hominem.  There was nothing in my post at all that suggested hatred, vitriol, or anything like it.

Although since the ad hominems keep coming, I don't know why I even bother. 

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