Earth in motion

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Xargo

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« on: November 25, 2006, 04:43:25 AM »
Flat Earth is travelling in a straight direction.

Can it tip over? Why/Why not?
Can it decrease/increase speed? Why/Why not?
Can it change direction? Why/Why not?

And explain how seismic activity have, or don't have, any effect on these elements.
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2006, 07:28:40 AM »
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Flat Earth is travelling in a straight direction.


I would say "mainly straight direction" - we don't know if it's actually completely straight or if there is some variation.  Some experiments such as pendulum experiments suggest there that is some other directional motion involved.

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Can it tip over? Why/Why not?


We don't know.  I would guess not because the energy pushing us forward is behind us, like if you blow up a balloon and let go of it, while it flies in lots of different directions - it has to keep generally facing the same direction relative to the propulsion and the direction.

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Can it decrease/increase speed? Why/Why not?


Again, we don't know.  I would say that there are two possible outcomes.  Either it will continue on at the same speed for ever, or it will slowly slow down.  Maybe it is already slowing down, but a t such a rate that it is unrecordable.  Of course it's also possible that rather than a linear deceleration, it will just suddenly stop.  That would obviously be apocalyptic for the world as we'd suddenly experience 0 gravity.  No doubt the socialists will blame capitalism for this occurrence (as they should).


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Can it change direction? Why/Why not?


We don't know.  Obviously it hasn't changed much as far as we know, but it could in the future.  It's hard to see a reason why it would change significantly.  Perhaps the propulsion is not symmetrical or perhaps we could fly through a certain higher density substance that would slow parts of it down.  This is merely speculation.  I think the answer would probably be that it could change direction for those reasons, but we can't be sure until it happens.


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And explain how seismic activity have, or don't have, any effect on these elements.


I would guess that it would have no activity although obviously we can't tell for sure.  It's just my impression that seismic activity is so small, relative to the entire Earth, that it wouldn't have any significant effect.

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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2006, 07:37:59 AM »
Actually, from an outside perspective, the earth's acceleration is slowing.  However, the earth is still increasing in speed.


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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2006, 08:10:00 AM »
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Actually, from an outside perspective, the earth's acceleration is slowing.  However, the earth is still increasing in speed.


How does that work? :?
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2006, 08:15:46 AM »
Uh, simple phyiscs?

Take a car that is accelerating at 10m/s^2, then 7m/s^2 then 4m/s^2.  It's acceleration is decreasing, but it is still gaining speed.


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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2006, 11:50:49 AM »
WOW

Going from 10 meters per second to 4 meters per second is now a net gain in velocity. This forum is amazing.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2006, 12:03:13 PM »
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WOW

Going from 10 meters per second to 4 meters per second is now a net gain in velocity. This forum is amazing.

WOW..Can you read?

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Take a car that is accelerating at 10m/s^2, then 7m/s^2 then 4m/s^2.


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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2006, 12:14:43 PM »
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WOW

Going from 10 meters per second to 4 meters per second is now a net gain in velocity. This forum is amazing.

WOW..Can you read?

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Take a car that is accelerating at 10m/s^2, then 7m/s^2 then 4m/s^2.

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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2006, 05:20:25 PM »
If the rate of acceleration is decreasing, why have we not fallen up?  Supposedly the only thing keeping us firmly planted on this planet is a constant acceleration.  Any increase or decrease would result in a change in what we observe as gravity.
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2006, 06:13:42 PM »
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If the rate of acceleration is decreasing,


It isn't... for you and me.  Just because we observe constant acceleration doesn't mean that everybody else will.
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2006, 07:32:08 PM »
I love relativity.


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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2006, 07:24:24 AM »
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Actually, from an outside perspective, the earth's acceleration is slowing.  However, the earth is still increasing in speed.


Explain how you came to this conclusion.
What experiments or instruments of observation, and so on..
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2006, 07:31:04 AM »
Obviously he's referring to special relativity.

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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2006, 10:12:58 AM »
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Actually, from an outside perspective, the earth's acceleration is slowing.  However, the earth is still increasing in speed.


Explain how you came to this conclusion.
What experiments or instruments of observation, and so on..

Special relativity holds that an observer being accelerated by the earth will measure the acceleration to be a constant 9.81m/s^2.
An object moving at a constant velocity, outside the earth, will measure the acceleration of the earth to be decreasing.

This is how the earth can accelerate at a constant rate, forever, and never reach the speed of light.


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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2006, 02:57:42 PM »
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Actually, from an outside perspective, the earth's acceleration is slowing.  However, the earth is still increasing in speed.


Explain how you came to this conclusion.
What experiments or instruments of observation, and so on..

Special relativity holds that an observer being accelerated by the earth will measure the acceleration to be a constant 9.81m/s^2.
An object moving at a constant velocity, outside the earth, will measure the acceleration of the earth to be decreasing.

This is how the earth can accelerate at a constant rate, forever, and never reach the speed of light.


This is an interesting theory.
However, I'd like to see answers to my other questions as well. Such as: How come seismic activity doesn't effect the flat earths motion? Or, if a meteor hits the Earth, is it not reasonable the Earth would tip over? Change direction or route? Explain. (I find the previous answers very amusing, too.)
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2006, 04:06:17 PM »
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How come seismic activity doesn't effect the flat earths motion?

The same way it doesn't affect the round earth.

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Or, if a meteor hits the Earth, is it not reasonable the Earth would tip over? Change direction or route? Explain.

Who says it wouldn't?

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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2006, 11:45:22 PM »
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How come seismic activity doesn't effect the flat earths motion?

The same way it doesn't affect the round earth.


Could you elborate?
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Xargo

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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2006, 01:43:53 AM »
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The same way it doesn't affect the round earth.

Oh, it does.
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Who says it wouldn't?

The FE theory.
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

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