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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2015, 07:36:10 AM »
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The moon today has been visable in the eastern sky since 4.45 pm here in central victoria. Its 6.11pm . Could some one in the USA step out side  & confirm if the moon is visable over there. & the time .It would help settle this matter.

I've been in Geelong for the day,  but I can confirm that the moon was visible  about 6:00 pm,  If we had a clear view it would have been earlier.  So now what you are saying agrees with what I said yesterday, there is NO way you could have seen the moon Friday morning at 10:00am.

So who's the low down lying scum now,   you owe me an apology.   

I stand by 10.00 am . I was with company at the time . They actually pointed it out . Fullmoon 12.50 pm. 28th September 2015 .melb & victoria . What will the moon be doing in the USA ? & how can we be seeing it at the same moment the USA is ?.

Whatever you saw wasn't the moon,   you said as much yourself

http://www.timeanddate.com/moon/australia/melbourne

Moonrise tomorrow  ( full moon ) is at  6:34 PM  AEST    Today it was  5:21PM .     

Where are you getting this 12:50 PM time from,  the moon won't even be up in Australia at that time.
http://museumvictoria.com.au/planetarium/discoverycentre/moon-phases/moon-phases-2015/
Top of the page of your link fullmoon 28th 12.50 pm moonset 5.54 am

That's weird,  the moon isn't even up till  6:34PM,    maybe they got PM and AM mixed up?
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2015, 08:07:43 AM »
Quote from: Rayzor on September 27, 2015, 07:36:10 AM
Quote from: charles bloomington on September 27, 2015, 06:44:00 AM
Quote from: Rayzor on September 27, 2015, 05:50:39 AM
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Quote from: charles bloomington on September 27, 2015, 01:14:55 AM
The moon today has been visable in the eastern sky since 4.45 pm here in central victoria. Its 6.11pm . Could some one in the USA step out side  & confirm if the moon is visable over there. & the time .It would help settle this matter.

I've been in Geelong for the day,  but I can confirm that the moon was visible  about 6:00 pm,  If we had a clear view it would have been earlier.  So now what you are saying agrees with what I said yesterday, there is NO way you could have seen the moon Friday morning at 10:00am.

So who's the low down lying scum now,   you owe me an apology.   

I stand by 10.00 am . I was with company at the time . They actually pointed it out . Fullmoon 12.50 pm. 28th September 2015 .melb & victoria . What will the moon be doing in the USA ? & how can we be seeing it at the same moment the USA is ?.

Whatever you saw wasn't the moon,   you said as much yourself

http://www.timeanddate.com/moon/australia/melbourne

Moonrise tomorrow  ( full moon ) is at  6:34 PM  AEST    Today it was  5:21PM .     

Where are you getting this 12:50 PM time from,  the moon won't even be up in Australia at that time.
http://museumvictoria.com.au/planetarium/discoverycentre/moon-phases/moon-phases-2015/
Top of the page of your link fullmoon 28th 12.50 pm moonset 5.54 am

That's weird,  the moon isn't even up till  6:34PM,    maybe they got PM and AM mixed up?

Maybe you are just wrong again, Razor.
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2015, 09:28:38 AM »
Quote from: Yendor on September 27, 2015, 08:07:43 AM
Quote from: Rayzor on September 27, 2015, 07:36:10 AM
Quote from: charles bloomington on September 27, 2015, 06:44:00 AM
Quote from: Rayzor on September 27, 2015, 05:50:39 AM
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Quote from: charles bloomington on September 27, 2015, 01:14:55 AM
The moon today has been visable in the eastern sky since 4.45 pm here in central victoria. Its 6.11pm . Could some one in the USA step out side  & confirm if the moon is visable over there. & the time .It would help settle this matter.

I've been in Geelong for the day,  but I can confirm that the moon was visible  about 6:00 pm,  If we had a clear view it would have been earlier.  So now what you are saying agrees with what I said yesterday, there is NO way you could have seen the moon Friday morning at 10:00am.

So who's the low down lying scum now,   you owe me an apology.   

I stand by 10.00 am . I was with company at the time . They actually pointed it out . Fullmoon 12.50 pm. 28th September 2015 .melb & victoria . What will the moon be doing in the USA ? & how can we be seeing it at the same moment the USA is ?.

Whatever you saw wasn't the moon,   you said as much yourself

http://www.timeanddate.com/moon/australia/melbourne

Moonrise tomorrow  ( full moon ) is at  6:34 PM  AEST    Today it was  5:21PM .     

Where are you getting this 12:50 PM time from,  the moon won't even be up in Australia at that time.
http://museumvictoria.com.au/planetarium/discoverycentre/moon-phases/moon-phases-2015/
Top of the page of your link fullmoon 28th 12.50 pm moonset 5.54 am

That's weird,  the moon isn't even up till  6:34PM,    maybe they got PM and AM mixed up?

Maybe you are just wrong again, Razor.
No, that's the time when the Moon will be full, not necessarily that you will be able to see it from any particular location. Mainframes pointed this out many posts ago.

It will also be eclipsed at that time and in the eastern side of the sky in North America. I plan to watch it.
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2015, 04:55:15 PM »
What bullshit are you talking now. Ive been seeing the moon for the past 6 days .during the day while the suns out & as you  know I have damaged eye sight. So if I'm seeing it, then it must be clear as day. With no chem trails to hide it like they were doing . Now tell me how that is posible to be seeing the moon here & in the USA at the same moment in time. If your RE model was correct. 
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2015, 05:09:57 PM »
You know what the worst thing in all of this RE/ FE crap.I dont really care for it. I just want a friend,  one stinken friend . Thats not lying to me ,going to lie to me, not trying to deceive me or make money off me.
Poke fun at me, judge me , imbarase me or ambush me.Just  "One "stinking pharken human friend.
They dont exsist.
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2015, 08:23:48 PM »
Quote from: charles bloomington on September 27, 2015, 05:09:57 PM
You know what the worst thing in all of this RE/ FE crap.I dont really care for it. I just want a friend,  one stinken friend . Thats not lying to me ,going to lie to me, not trying to deceive me or make money off me.
Poke fun at me, judge me , imbarase me or ambush me.Just  "One "stinking pharken human friend.
They dont exsist.

People like that exist, they are just, sadly, few and far between, and hard to find. I actually moved *back* to Arizona because when I lived in Jacksonville Florida, I think I met maybe *one* decent person. So sometimes it can actually be where you live.
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2015, 08:30:55 PM »
There's only 7 hours difference between Melbourne and Phoenix, Arizona (western USA). 

The 12:50pm (Melbourne time) for the full moon was when it "went" completely full, not for when it was visible in Melbourne.   
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2015, 08:34:42 PM »
It's SOOOO obvious the eclipse is not caused by the earth's shadow.

Use your brains folks... the shadow went left to right across the moon in about 30 minutes while the moon barely moved in the sky at all... Are you claiming that the sun moved south to north behind the earth in that short amount of time? When the sun has moved a straight line east to west nearly the same exact route as the moon ALL DAY?

Give me a break....
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2015, 08:40:48 PM »
The Moon moves West to East.

The Moon moved into the Earth's shadow from the right.

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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2015, 10:37:52 PM »
Quote from: Chris Valentine on September 27, 2015, 08:30:55 PM
There's only 7 hours difference between Melbourne and Phoenix, Arizona (western USA). 

The 12:50pm (Melbourne time) for the full moon was when it "went" completely full, not for when it was visible in Melbourne.

That makes sense,  thanks for the explanation.    You might have to explain the time difference,    Phoenix is UTC-7,  Melbourne is UTC+10,  so that's 17 hours difference  going one way,  going backwards is  24 - 17 = 7

Right now, it's  15:20PM Monday Afternoon in Melbourne,   and  in Phoenix Arizona it's  10:20PM Sunday Night,   The moon is overhead in Phoenix,  but below the horizon in Melbourne.
In a few hours ( about 6:30PM AEST== 08:30AM UTC)  the moon will rise in the East in Melbourne, and  will set in the west in Phoenix at  6:54AM Mountain Time which is 13:54PM UTC
so from  8:30 UTC to 13:54 UTC the moon will be visible from both Melbourne and Phoenix. 


Quote from: iWitness on September 27, 2015, 08:34:42 PM
It's SOOOO obvious the eclipse is not caused by the earth's shadow.

Use your brains folks... the shadow went left to right across the moon in about 30 minutes while the moon barely moved in the sky at all... Are you claiming that the sun moved south to north behind the earth in that short amount of time? When the sun has moved a straight line east to west nearly the same exact route as the moon ALL DAY?

Give me a break....

Ok,  I'll give you a break.   I think you might want to recheck your logic.   
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2015, 04:38:28 AM »
Quote from: Chris Valentine on September 27, 2015, 08:40:48 PM
The Moon moves West to East.

The Moon moved into the Earth's shadow from the right.
In central victoria the  moon follows the same path as the sun , so on a full moon it rises  in the east sets in the west. Could I tell you what time I saw it rise no.why because they fired up their harrp &  the morning went from a sunny clear blue sky , to a cloudy day . Not a hope of seeing when the full moon was first visable time wise.
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2015, 06:01:18 AM »
Can somebody please explain to me WTF Bloomington's problem is? Because I still can't understand it.
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2015, 06:10:34 AM »
Quote from: iWitness on September 27, 2015, 08:34:42 PM
It's SOOOO obvious the eclipse is not caused by the earth's shadow.

Use your brains folks... the shadow went left to right across the moon in about 30 minutes while the moon barely moved in the sky at all... Are you claiming that the sun moved south to north behind the earth in that short amount of time? When the sun has moved a straight line east to west nearly the same exact route as the moon ALL DAY?

Give me a break....

Lol what's that crap? The moon revolves around the Earth approximately every 27 days, so approximately 13 degrees a day, and about 0.5-6 degrees an hour. It takes the moon approximately 2 hours to get from one side of the Earth's shadow to the other. So... What was your problem again?
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2015, 08:53:07 PM »
Did anyone watch the lunar eclipse? I saw it from the midwest (usa). It took a couple of hours for the earth's shadow to completely cross the moon's surface as the moon moved through it. One thing that stood out, the shadow of the earth on the moon was curved. The moon was far above the surface of the earth, away from the horizon. Only a sphere could make such a shadow. Just food for thought.
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2015, 01:37:48 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on September 30, 2015, 01:34:58 AM
The sun shining this morning at 8 oclock from the East and to the west, there is the moon. Both fairly close in.
Now why would a supposed 240,000 mile moon be visible inside the blue sky?
Why would the so called moon be opposite the shining sun?


The answer is simple.
The moon is a reflection of the reflection from the sun an d it is reflected in the sky; especially on colder clearer days where reflections are more crisp for our eyes.


If the moon was not on the opposite side of the sky from the sun, ti would not be visible as the sun would nto shine on the side we can see.
Why wouldn't we be able to see the moon? It is reflecting strong sunlight back at earth.
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2015, 01:44:03 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on September 30, 2015, 01:42:37 AM
The sun shining this morning at 8 oclock from the East and to the west, there is the moon. Both fairly close in.
Now why would a supposed 240,000 mile moon be visible inside the blue sky?
Why would the so called moon be opposite the shining sun?


The answer is simple.
The moon is a reflection of the reflection from the sun an d it is reflected in the sky; especially on colder clearer days where reflections are more crisp for our eyes.

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If the moon was not on the opposite side of the sky from the sun, ti would not be visible as the sun would nto shine on the side we can see.
Why wouldn't we be able to see the moon? It is reflecting strong sunlight back at earth.
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2015, 02:05:44 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on September 30, 2015, 02:03:22 AM
The sun shining this morning at 8 oclock from the East and to the west, there is the moon. Both fairly close in.
Now why would a supposed 240,000 mile moon be visible inside the blue sky?
Why would the so called moon be opposite the shining sun?


The answer is simple.
The moon is a reflection of the reflection from the sun an d it is reflected in the sky; especially on colder clearer days where reflections are more crisp for our eyes.

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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2015, 03:27:57 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on September 30, 2015, 02:52:08 AM
The sun shining this morning at 8 oclock from the East and to the west, there is the moon. Both fairly close in.
Now why would a supposed 240,000 mile moon be visible inside the blue sky?
Why would the so called moon be opposite the shining sun?


The answer is simple.
The moon is a reflection of the reflection from the sun an d it is reflected in the sky; especially on colder clearer days where reflections are more crisp for our eyes.

Guess the bot broke down.

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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2015, 05:24:39 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on September 30, 2015, 03:29:31 AM
The sun shining this morning at 8 oclock from the East and to the west, there is the moon. Both fairly close in.
Now why would a supposed 240,000 mile moon be visible inside the blue sky?

Because its brighter than the blue sky....

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Why would the so called moon be opposite the shining sun?

Have you ever noticed how the lit part of the moon is always pointed directly towards the sun....?

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The answer is simple.
The moon is a reflection of the reflection from the sun an d it is reflected in the sky; especially on colder clearer days where reflections are more crisp for our eyes.

So why does the sun always appear to be a sphere / circle and the moon changes from crescent through to full and back to crescent again?
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2015, 06:06:58 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on September 30, 2015, 05:36:22 AM
The sun shining this morning at 8 oclock from the East and to the west, there is the moon. Both fairly close in.

Very good. By "close in" do you mean low in the sky? That's exactly what would be expected about two days after a full moon.

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Now why would a supposed 240,000 mile moon be visible inside through the blue sky?

Quote from: Mainframes on September 30, 2015, 05:24:39 AM
Because its brighter than the blue sky....

It really is that simple.

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Why would the so called moon be opposite the shining sun?

Because it's on the opposite side of the Earth and they're both far away. Note that the Moon doesn't stay opposite the shining Sun. It changes position in the sky relative to the Sun. Sometimes it's on the same side of the sky as the shining Sun and is a crescent shape. Did you ever notice that? Occasionally it comes between the Sun and the Earth. Those are called solar eclipses.

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The answer is simple.

Yes, it is.

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The moon is a reflection of the reflection from the sun an d it is reflected in the sky; especially on colder clearer days where reflections are more crisp for our eyes.

No, that's not it.

[There are a couple of edits for clarity in the quoted text. No charge!]


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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2015, 10:39:14 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on September 30, 2015, 06:58:58 AM
The sun shining this morning at 8 oclock from the East and to the west, there is the moon. Both fairly close in.
Now why would a supposed 240,000 mile moon be visible inside the blue sky?
Why would the so called moon be opposite the shining sun?


The answer is simple.
The moon is a reflection of the reflection from the sun an d it is reflected in the sky; especially on colder clearer days where reflections are more crisp for our eyes.
The recognised model of the solar system has been proven.  Full stop.
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2015, 10:42:02 AM »
The sun shining this morning at 8 oclock from the East and to the west, there is the moon. Both fairly close in.
Now why would a supposed 240,000 mile moon be visible inside the blue sky?
Why would the so called moon be opposite the shining sun?


The answer is simple.
The moon is a reflection of the reflection from the sun an d it is reflected in the sky; especially on colder clearer days where reflections are more crisp for our eyes.
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Re: Total lunar eclipse September 27
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2015, 11:59:10 AM »
The sceptipigeonbot has broken down.

Maybe because it was a clear day and the reflections were too crisp for his eyes.
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