GPS

So we still wait for an explanation, with facts, of how some know how GPS and satellite TV works.

Quote from: inquisitive on January 07, 2014, 06:58:50 AM

How does it work then, same on tablets with no phone.

The device knows where you are, and then tells you what satellites are supposed to be around you and where in the sky they are supposed to be.

Did you seriously think that an app can make your device magically detect all of the frequencies that satellites use?

If the device knows where I'm at and then tells me what satellites are supposed to be around me, how is it that when I disable all connections to the Internet (such as by placing my tablet in Airplane mode) and turn on the GPS receiver on my tablet, my tablet is able to pinpoint my location? I just tried this now, and it shows my location without any connection to the Internet.

Quote from: jroa on January 07, 2014, 07:01:55 AM

Quote from: inquisitive on January 07, 2014, 06:58:50 AM

How does it work then, same on tablets with no phone.

The device knows where you are, and then tells you what satellites are supposed to be around you and where in the sky they are supposed to be.

Did you seriously think that an app can make your device magically detect all of the frequencies that satellites use?

If the device knows where I'm at and then tells me what satellites are supposed to be around me, how is it that when I disable all connections to the Internet (such as by placing my tablet in Airplane mode) and turn on the GPS receiver on my tablet, my tablet is able to pinpoint my location? I just tried this now, and it shows my location without any connection to the Internet.

Because the software made by these competing companies: Google, Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, LG, HTC, Nokia, Huawei, Oppo, etc... are all part of a big cooperative conspiracy. Nevermind that any of these companies would gladly out the others if they knew a conspiracy existed, but certainly not in the name of this super important conspiracy that must be protected at all costs.

If the device knows where I'm at and then tells me what satellites are supposed to be around me, how is it that when I disable all connections to the Internet (such as by placing my tablet in Airplane mode) and turn on the GPS receiver on my tablet, my tablet is able to pinpoint my location? I just tried this now, and it shows my location without any connection to the Internet.

A "connection" with the WWW (not the internet) is not necessary for satellite positioning.  My digital camera includes the coordinates of the image's location all by its little self!  It's called geotagging.

A "connection" with the WWW (not the internet) is not necessary for satellite positioning.  My digital camera includes the coordinates of the image's location all by its little self!  It's called geotagging.

Receivers in cameras now....wow.

So we still wait for an explanation, with facts, of how some know how GPS and satellite TV works.

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Quote from: TPMS on January 13, 2014, 10:03:06 PM

If the device knows where I'm at and then tells me what satellites are supposed to be around me, how is it that when I disable all connections to the Internet (such as by placing my tablet in Airplane mode) and turn on the GPS receiver on my tablet, my tablet is able to pinpoint my location? I just tried this now, and it shows my location without any connection to the Internet.

A "connection" with the WWW (not the internet) is not necessary for satellite positioning.  My digital camera includes the coordinates of the image's location all by its little self!  It's called geotagging.

I know. I understand that my tablet has a GPS receiver. I was questioning jroa's claim that "The device knows where you are, and then tells you what satellites are supposed to be around you and where in the sky they are supposed to be.
Did you seriously think that an app can make your device magically detect all of the frequencies that satellites use?"

Look at what I quoted in my previous post for clarification. Sorry about the confusion.

GPS receivers use only 2 frequencies.

No comments yet to question posed about how live tv news links work from Iraq to Washington, other than by satellite.

Look at what I quoted in my previous post for clarification. Sorry about the confusion.

No worries.  Thanks.   

Because the software made by these competing companies: Google, Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, LG, HTC, Nokia, Huawei, Oppo, etc... are all part of a big cooperative conspiracy. Nevermind that any of these companies would gladly out the others if they knew a conspiracy existed, but certainly not in the name of this super important conspiracy that must be protected at all costs.

That's not an answer, sorry. You're in no way forced to use software from those companies. You can rig your own GPS receiver and software and examine the raw data.

Quote from: rottingroom on January 14, 2014, 06:25:01 AM

Because the software made by these competing companies: Google, Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, LG, HTC, Nokia, Huawei, Oppo, etc... are all part of a big cooperative conspiracy. Nevermind that any of these companies would gladly out the others if they knew a conspiracy existed, but certainly not in the name of this super important conspiracy that must be protected at all costs.

That's not an answer, sorry. You're in no way forced to use software from those companies. You can rig your own GPS receiver and software and examine the raw data.

I think the conspiracy companies must have built your sarcasm detector as well.

It seems to be on the fritz.  

Not necessarily but who can follow any more who says what around here... I mean, who is a true believer and who not... 

Not necessarily but who can follow any more who says what around here... I mean, who is a true believer and who not... 

I was being very sarcastic.

OK, I know now. However, the answer is still valid...

Not necessarily but who can follow any more who says what around here... I mean, who is a true believer and who not...

I agree.   Sometimes I have trouble differentiating the FE's theories and the RE's sarcasm.   

Quote from: ausGeoff on January 14, 2014, 02:00:37 PM

A "connection" with the WWW (not the internet) is not necessary for satellite positioning.  My digital camera includes the coordinates of the image's location all by its little self!  It's called geotagging.

Receivers in cameras now....wow.

Actually, for a few years now.  Not to mention the fact that most modern camera phones have GPS and therefore can geotag your photos.

Receivers in cameras now....wow.

An embedded GPS receiver module costs around or below $5. There is hardly any reason not to put one into anything nowadays...

Satellites don't seem to exist, it doesn't even seem possible.  NASA is all fraud, and there isn't even science behind satellites.  Just think about it.  It is supposed to be technology from the 60's right?  So it should have properties that are defined by now.  Well, there aren't any, and you will find contradictions over and over again.  We should stop being lied to, and start demanding what the hell is really going on.  This is just sad that we can be controlled like this.

Satellites don't seem to exist, it doesn't even seem possible.  NASA is all fraud, and there isn't even science behind satellites.  Just think about it.  It is supposed to be technology from the 60's right?  So it should have properties that are defined by now.  Well, there aren't any, and you will find contradictions over and over again.  We should stop being lied to, and start demanding what the hell is really going on.  This is just sad that we can be controlled like this.

You may not understand how it works, many others do.  All the science makes satellites work.

How else does satellite tv and GPS work.