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How can people honestly believe the earth is round??? How do they describe how people on the "bottom" of the earth don't just fall off? I mean you can't stand on a sphere from every side.

It's all relative.  You may be on the bottom...

If you look at it from the Flat Earth viewpoint the only people standing up would be at the North Pole !. ROFLOL.

I know it's against rules but go to any astronomical observatory and they will explain it to you. But according to FES all you will get from those persons are lies about a globe shaped earth to which they have been "indoctrinated" to believe in.

How can people honestly believe the earth is round? How do they describe how people on the "bottom" of the earth don't just fall off? I mean you can't stand on a sphere from every side.

I guess that the majority of the population, 99.999999% accept that the earth is spherical due to the amount of scientific evidence that's pointed to that conclusion since the days of the ancient Greeks and Egyptians thousands of years BCE.

Modern science has also confirmed the findings of those ancients, and with far more accuracy.  To date, there's absolutely zero empirical evidence to support any shape other than a sphere.

Astronomically speaking, there's no such thing as up or down.  The way we generally view the planet is merely a convenient and common way to make communication easier globally.

Consider this projection for example:
 
 



 
 
Incidentally..... The force of gravity which originates at the CoG of the planet and is universally perpendicular to the surface of the planet is what holds you against the ground.
 
 

If you look at it from the Flat Earth viewpoint the only people standing up would be at the North Pole !. ROFLOL.

I know it's against rules but go to any astronomical observatory and they will explain it to you. But according to FES all you will get from those persons are lies about a globe shaped earth to which they have been "indoctrinated" to believe in.

Googleotomy, I know you love to tell FE'rs to go to an astronomical observatory, but how many of those astronomers have looked at the Earth through their telescopes?  Probably none.  Why would they be considered any kind of expert on the shape of the Earth?

[...] how many of those astronomers have looked at the Earth through their telescopes?  Probably none.  Why would they be considered any kind of expert on the shape of the Earth?

Uh... I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here?

The radio telescopes on the Hubble platform clearly show optical images of the earth.  Guys hunched over telescopes with their eye glued to the eyepiece have gone the way of Charles Dickens.


This is one of the images from the Hubble space telescope; Florida is in the middle running roughly left-right:
 
 

 
This image also clearly shows the curvature of the earth.
 
 

So, let me get this straight.  Astronomers just look at NASA provided pictures of the Earth all day, and that is supposed to make them experts at the shape of the Earth?  You people scrape more and more with each new thread, it would seem.

For your information, Astronomers like to look at things in the sky, i.e, above the Earth. 

So, let me get this straight.  Astronomers just look at NASA provided pictures of the Earth all day, and that is supposed to make them experts at the shape of the Earth?  You people scrape more and more with each new thread, it would seem.

For your information, Astronomers like to look at things in the sky, i.e, above the Earth.

Are you claiming to be an expert, jroa ? What evidence do You have to prove that the earth is flat ? You FE's make yourselves look more ridiculous every day on this forum IMHO. Astronomers look at the moon and other planets every day.
And they know what their shapes are. The shape of a flat earth exists only in the  minds and imaginations of FE's, sad to say.

As ausGeoff said, thanks to the Hubble Space Telescope they can also look at the earth. For your information this is
the 21st Century.

Wake up FE's ! If you will check just about anywhere else on the Internet, you will find that the general consensus is that the Flat Earth Society is "One great big hoax or one great big joke".....or maybe both. But FE's of course are never going to admit this.

My Grandmother, who emigrated from England, said there was an old Engish saying "Did you ever hear a fishmonger calling "Rotten fish for sale" ?

And........In the immortal words of "The Shadow" : "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men ? The Shadow knows ! Hehhehheh."

So, let me get this straight.  Astronomers just look at NASA provided pictures of the Earth all day, and that is supposed to make them experts at the shape of the Earth?  You people scrape more and more with each new thread, it would seem.

For your information, Astronomers like to look at things in the sky, i.e, above the Earth.

No; the astronomers who viewed this very image personally via a radio-telescope printed out this image themselves.  And yes; it does make them knowledgeable about the shape of the earth.  Or are you suggesting they're misinterpreting their own photos?  Or that they're a part of some imaginary NASA hoax?  Or they're just straight out liars?

Could you please post some similar photographic images that you consider more representative of the "true" shape of our planet.  There must at least be a handful of flat-earth astronomers out there capable of capturing some images proving—at least in part—the flat earth theory.

How can people honestly believe the earth is round??? How do they describe how people on the "bottom" of the earth don't just fall off? I mean you can't stand on a sphere from every side.

Gravity attracts objects toward the center of the Earth. This means that no matter where you stand on the Earth, you won't fall off because gravity is attracting you toward the center.

Quote from: t_yards on January 10, 2014, 08:04:10 AM

How can people honestly believe the earth is round? How do they describe how people on the "bottom" of the earth don't just fall off? I mean you can't stand on a sphere from every side.

I guess that the majority of the population, 99.999999% accept that the earth is spherical due to the amount of scientific evidence that's pointed to that conclusion since the days of the ancient Greeks and Egyptians thousands of years BCE.

Modern science has also confirmed the findings of those ancients, and with far more accuracy.  To date, there's absolutely zero empirical evidence to support any shape other than a sphere.

Astronomically speaking, there's no such thing as up or down.  The way we generally view the planet is merely a convenient and common way to make communication easier globally.

Consider this projection for example:
 
 

 
 
Incidentally..... The force of gravity which originates at the CoG of the planet and is universally perpendicular to the surface of the planet is what holds you against the ground.

Correction to the above:

People believe the Earth is round because they have not been exposed to FET.  They are compelled to read RET literature and be tested on ONLY that to pass exams in school. 

Before logically determining Earth shape they must have an understanding of FET or their input is not valid. Those percentages will change dramatically once FET is brought back into the educational system.

In addition, if a FE representation would replace the now popular "globe" in stores and classrooms it would also contribute to the inevitable disappearance of RE beliefs.     

Quote from: ausGeoff on January 10, 2014, 11:35:51 PM

Quote from: t_yards on January 10, 2014, 08:04:10 AM

How can people honestly believe the earth is round? How do they describe how people on the "bottom" of the earth don't just fall off? I mean you can't stand on a sphere from every side.

I guess that the majority of the population, 99.999999% accept that the earth is spherical due to the amount of scientific evidence that's pointed to that conclusion since the days of the ancient Greeks and Egyptians thousands of years BCE.

Modern science has also confirmed the findings of those ancients, and with far more accuracy.  To date, there's absolutely zero empirical evidence to support any shape other than a sphere.

Astronomically speaking, there's no such thing as up or down.  The way we generally view the planet is merely a convenient and common way to make communication easier globally.

Consider this projection for example:
 
 

 
 
Incidentally..... The force of gravity which originates at the CoG of the planet and is universally perpendicular to the surface of the planet is what holds you against the ground.

Correction to the above:

People believe the Earth is round because they have not been exposed to FET.  They are compelled to read RET literature and be tested on ONLY that to pass exams in school. 

Before logically determining Earth shape they must have an understanding of FET or their input is not valid. Those percentages will change dramatically once FET is brought back into the educational system.

In addition, if a FE representation would replace the now popular "globe" in stores and classrooms it would also contribute to the inevitable disappearance of RE beliefs.     

Shall I assume the current FET text book is from the 1800's?

Quote from: gotham on January 11, 2014, 05:00:29 PM

Quote from: ausGeoff on January 10, 2014, 11:35:51 PM

Quote from: t_yards on January 10, 2014, 08:04:10 AM

How can people honestly believe the earth is round? How do they describe how people on the "bottom" of the earth don't just fall off? I mean you can't stand on a sphere from every side.

I guess that the majority of the population, 99.999999% accept that the earth is spherical due to the amount of scientific evidence that's pointed to that conclusion since the days of the ancient Greeks and Egyptians thousands of years BCE.

Modern science has also confirmed the findings of those ancients, and with far more accuracy.  To date, there's absolutely zero empirical evidence to support any shape other than a sphere.

Astronomically speaking, there's no such thing as up or down.  The way we generally view the planet is merely a convenient and common way to make communication easier globally.

Consider this projection for example:
 
 

 
 
Incidentally..... The force of gravity which originates at the CoG of the planet and is universally perpendicular to the surface of the planet is what holds you against the ground.

Correction to the above:

People believe the Earth is round because they have not been exposed to FET.  They are compelled to read RET literature and be tested on ONLY that to pass exams in school. 

Before logically determining Earth shape they must have an understanding of FET or their input is not valid. Those percentages will change dramatically once FET is brought back into the educational system.

In addition, if a FE representation would replace the now popular "globe" in stores and classrooms it would also contribute to the inevitable disappearance of RE beliefs.     

Shall I assume the current FET text book is from the 1800's?

There is writing from that time period that would be part of the overall history of FET.  The totality of knowledge, of course, precedes that and also continues up to the present time.

Quote from: jroa on January 11, 2014, 04:02:48 AM

[...] how many of those astronomers have looked at the Earth through their telescopes?  Probably none.  Why would they be considered any kind of expert on the shape of the Earth?

Uh... I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here?

The radio telescopes on the Hubble platform clearly show optical images of the earth.  Guys hunched over telescopes with their eye glued to the eyepiece have gone the way of Charles Dickens.


This is one of the images from the Hubble space telescope; Florida is in the middle running roughly left-right:
 
 

 
This image also clearly shows the curvature of the earth.

The Problem I have with so called Horizons is the Clouds continue past the Curvature. It really just doesn't make any sense if the Earth was curved and light wasn't bending to produce the optical illusion of it curving.

Clouds are above everywhere. What is so difficult to understand? Follow the horizon.

People believe the Earth is round because they have not been exposed to FET.  They are compelled to read RET literature and be tested on ONLY that to pass exams in school.

This is illogical.  It's like saying people shouldn't accept evolutionary theory unless they've read the Bible.  Which would be nonsense.  Additionally, there is no such thing as "round-earth" literature.  The entire premise of scientific teaching is based on the empirical evidence for a spherical planet, based on centuries of geophysical research, human observations, data-logging, astrophotography and space exploration.   And students are not "compelled" to read scientific literature solely to pass school exams—that's a ludicrous claim.  Students are required to study in order to be educated; nothing more, nothing less.

Before logically determining Earth shape they must have an understanding of FET or their input is not valid.

There is no universally accredited flat-earth "theory" for science students to study.  Even the FEs cannot agree on a common model acceptable to all.  As a flat earth model defies all our known laws of physics, it'd be almost impossible to impart even an idea of what the flat earth theory is all about to students.

Those percentages will change dramatically once FET is brought back into the educational system.

You're implying that FET will be "brought back" into the education system.  In 200+ years of education in Australia (at least) it's never been in the education system.  And FET will never be introduced into our education system any more than religion will be.  They're both dead and buried in a secular country such as Australia.

In addition, if a FE representation would replace the now popular "globe" in stores and classrooms it would also contribute to the inevitable disappearance of RE beliefs.

     

The concept of a round earth model is in no way simply a "belief".  It's a universally accepted scientific tenet accepted completely across the entire planet.  There's also not one single state-accredited school teaching flat earth theory across the planet.  Your vain hope that the round earth model will ever be supplanted by a flat earth model is truly wishful thinking on a grand scale.

Before logically determining Earth shape they must have an understanding of FET or their input is not valid.

In order for someone to understand FET, there must be a coherent Flat Earth theory to understand.  If you could refer me to one, I would greatly appreciate it.

Clouds are above everywhere. What is so difficult to understand? Follow the horizon.

It is extremely difficult to understand indeed.  For the image that "clearly shows the curvature of the earth" also clearly shows three or four bunches of who knows what flowing from "atmosphere" right into "the outer space", in RE terms. Or is that coming from the "outer space"? Could you please explain the nature of those phenomena?