Round Earth

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Round Earth
« on: January 16, 2014, 10:01:06 AM »
There are clear pictures of the earth from space that depict the earth being round... so this website is completely inconsequential.

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Son of Orospu

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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2014, 10:24:05 AM »
There are pictures from Earth that show a curved horizon.  It's called a wide angle lens. 

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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2014, 10:47:52 AM »
There are pictures from Earth that show a curved horizon.  It's called a wide angle lens.
A wide angle lens does NOT change a straight line into a curved one. Nice try.

correction.
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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2014, 11:00:25 AM »
Simple Solution I'm surprised I haven't seen it before.




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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2014, 04:53:26 PM »
There are pictures from Earth that show a curved horizon.  It's called a wide angle lens.
A wide angle lens does change a straight line into a curved one. Nice try.

Yes, it does.  Nice to finally meet an REer who admits this. 

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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2014, 05:18:18 PM »
There are pictures from Earth that show a curved horizon.  It's called a wide angle lens.
A wide angle lens does change a straight line into a curved one. Nice try.

Yes, it does.  Nice to finally meet an REer who admits this.

I don't think RE have ever failed to admit that this is what fish eye lenses do. Its just that FErs don't acknowledge the details of how this works.

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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2014, 02:06:48 PM »
There are pictures from Earth that show a curved horizon.  It's called a wide angle lens.

By a "wide angle lens" I'm assuming you mean something in the order of 8mm to 10mm focal length?

If so, you'll be interested to know that a "normal" focal length lens of 55mm will also produce an image with a slightly curved horizon—just not as pronounced as with a WA lens.  And a 55mm lens also approximates the field of view of the human eye.
 
 
 
[EDIT:  spelling gremlins... grrrrr]
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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2014, 12:27:10 PM »
There are pictures from Earth that show a curved horizon.  It's called a wide angle lens.

By a "wide angle lens" I'm assuming you mean something in the order of 8mm to 10mm focal length?
Actually, whether or not 8-10 mm would be considered "wide angle" would depend on the film/sensor size.  For a 35mm camera, then yes.  For a 1/1.7" point and shoot camera, it would be considered a "normal" lens.  For a 1/2.3" phone camera, it might be considered telephoto.
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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2014, 12:30:52 PM »
See correction above.

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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2014, 12:38:16 PM »
There are pictures from Earth that show a curved horizon.  It's called a wide angle lens.
A wide angle lens does NOT change a straight line into a curved one. Nice try.

correction.
Actually, it can:
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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2014, 12:39:07 PM »
There are pictures from Earth that show a curved horizon.  It's called a wide angle lens.
A wide angle lens does NOT change a straight line into a curved one. Nice try.

correction.

I wonder how these cows live on such a small planet, then?


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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2014, 02:49:33 PM »
Fish eye lens.

ps. How does satellite tv work?

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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2014, 03:09:56 PM »
Fish eye lens.

ps. How does satellite tv work?
I don't think anyone meant fisheye lens when talking about wide angle lenses. Jroa seems to assume all wide angle lenses are fisheye lenses.
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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2014, 03:34:32 PM »
Fish eye lens.

ps. How does satellite tv work?
I don't think anyone meant fisheye lens when talking about wide angle lenses. Jroa seems to assume all wide angle lenses are fisheye lenses.
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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2014, 08:31:01 PM »
Fish eye lens.

ps. How does satellite tv work?

Static Satellites...

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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2014, 01:46:41 AM »

Whether or not 8-10 mm would be considered "wide angle" would depend on the film/sensor size.  For a 35mm camera, then yes.  For a 1/1.7" point and shoot camera, it would be considered a "normal" lens.  For a 1/2.3" phone camera, it might be considered telephoto.


For the purposes of this exercise, I should've clarified that I was talking about a 36mm x 24mm sensor, or so-called "full frame" sensors, or a 135 film frame.

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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2014, 01:56:40 AM »

I don't think anyone meant fisheye lens when talking about wide angle lenses. Jroa seems to assume all wide angle lenses are fisheye lenses.


Agreed.  Fisheye lenses and wide angle lenses are two totally different things.  Admittedly, it's a subtle difference though, and possibly lost on non-photographers.

The image curvature caused by wide angle lenses (and particularly zooms) is known as "barrel distortion", and can be determined by the amount a reference line is bent (in pixels) as a percentage of the image height (in pixels).

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Re: Round Earth
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2014, 02:57:32 AM »
Here is the distortion chart for one of the widest full format Canon lens, namely the 14mm f2.8 L II
It has a field of view of 114°, considered as a very wide lens on a 24x36 sensor.



You may note the moderate distortion, and the absolutely rectilinear rendering of the chart's center lines.

(credits: photozone.de)