[Quote from: Tintagel on December 15, 2012, 09:52:00 PM]
Most of your questions seem to be in regards to what is causing the accelation, and the simple answer is that we don't know, but the fact that universal acceleration is occuring isn't just something we made up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_universeAs an aside, here's a quote regarding what accepted science believes is causing this acceleration:
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Models attempting to explain accelerating expansion include some form of dark energy, dark fluid or phantom energy. The most important property of dark energy is that it has negative pressure which is distributed relatively homogeneously in space. The simplest explanation for dark energy is that it is a cosmological constant or vacuum energy.
Most of us believe that dark energy is causing the acceleration. Some of us substitute the term "aetheric wind" because refraction due to aether helps explain certain visible phenomena on a flat earth, such as sunsets and the southern celestial pole.
The disc of earth isn't rotating - the cosmos rather rotates around us, on several concentric axes (I'm working on a model of this, based upon Ptolemy's work with retrograde orbits). There are differing theories here as to whether the earth is a finite disc or an infinite plane, and indeed some of the infinite plane models nix the UA in favor of more traditional gravity, so there is still room for us to improve and solidify our model. Our method is based upon personal observation, and thus is highly subjective, but we generally welcome alternative interpretations.
The sun (and moon) rotate in a circle above the earth. The sun's orbit widens and narrows throughout the year - on the solstice this month it will make its smallest circle above the north pole, and then begin widening again.
Once again, thanks for well reasoned and civil discourse, it's always refreshing here [/quote]
What bothers me most is that you insinuate ENORMOUS complexities that you simply attribute to "dark energy". It really seems that people who follow this FET are adding one complexity at a time to try to account for each new piece of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Your theory(ies?) has (have?) already reached a point where there are absolutely gaping inconsistencies with reality. Assuming "dark energy" is causing the acceleration of the "disk" (I will flat out tell you that I don't believe you, but am playing along for the sake of argument), the "disk" is hugely unstable, and simply the radiation pressure from the sun (or whatever you substitute for it) would be enough to knock it off of its stable position (assuming the "dark energy acceleration" was in equilibrium to start with) where everything is nice and flat, causing it to tumble chaotically. This would of course lead to many horrible things, just use your imagination on a randomly tumbling flat earth disk and what it would entail for us... I know this is true through a rigorous study of classical mechanics. (and forewarning, don't even try to use advanced cosmological concepts such as the Hubble expansion if you choose to discredit their foundations in classical mechanics and General Relativity)
Again, assuming for the sake of argument that the earth is being accelerated by something (in a dynamically stable configuration, which is physically impossible as anyone who has spent time playing at gyroscopes, footballs, firearms... the list goes on... can tell you) at a constant rate of 9.8m/s^2, then even one year's worth of this (I've lived for 20-something years on this planet, so I know that 1 year is at least a reasonable assumption for the longevity of life on earth) would lead to 31556900 (seconds in a year) * 9.8m/s^2 = 309257620 which is 3.092*10^8. You seem to have accepted that relativity holds true, which depends on the fact that nothing can move faster than the speed of light. However, one year's worth of linear acceleration (a geocentric model would really have to have linear acceleration otherwise it wouldn't be geocentric) would mean that the earth is already moving faster than the speed of light! What about the other several billion years that this planet has been around?
With respect to the planets, stars, galaxies, galaxy clusters, galaxy super clusters, cosmological filaments, etc, etc, etc, all rotating about us, the energy that would be necessary for that to be true is enormous (truly universally enormous, not just enormous for someone like you or me to comprehend) and it is impossibly unlikely that the axis would be even parallel, let alone coincident. When faced by the absolutely incalculable odds (exponential with the number of atoms in the universe) that things just happen to line up the way they do and don't follow a set of very simple (General relativity is actually incredibly simple, it's just that our math system is set up in a way that makes computation rather annoyingly difficult) rules, why is it so hard to accept that the simplest answer is very often the truth.
So, as I see it, your description of the universe is becoming more and more complex (and you've been cherry picking from accepted physics, taking into account convenient cosmological theories, but disregarding the fundamental truths upon which they are based), and looks like it will continue to increase in complexity without bound. Perhaps you will someday find a model that works in local space, but I can promise you that it will not hold true universally, certainly not as well as mainstream physics does.
Why not simply accept that if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck? There's no need for all of these inanely complex and grandiose theories that you guys are perpetuating when there already exists one that has been, can be, and will be enormously tested and utilized. The classical world that we live in is actually quite pleasantly simple and only takes a few years (more like 5, but still a small commitment in the grand scheme of things) of dedicated study to thoroughly understand.
One last thought: I've read several people say that the earth must be flat because it looks flat. Let's say your standing on the edge of the disk (I understand that your model of gravity doesn't allow this, but lets say that due to some feat of engineering, you could stand directly off the edge of the disk, such that a line from your head to your feet would lay flat against the earth's surface).
From your position on the edge of the disk, would you be able to perceive its curvature? According to elementary geometry, there would be no way for a person to stand and look at the edge of the disk and know it is not a square plate because the curvature would be so small (1/radius of the earth "disk") that no one could tell the difference between the visible segment of the circle and the straight edge of a square plate.