Why doesn't the FES fund a trip to the South Pole?

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trig

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Re: Why doesn't the FES fund a trip to the South Pole?
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2011, 12:05:31 PM »

I have also been in Punta Arenas. If anything else, the fact that the longest daytime (in December) is almost the whole day should be a good indication that FE "theories" are bunk. The Sun was taking the path that we all expected (a very long path without ever getting very high, giving enough light to not need artificial light from before we woke up till past 9 pm at night).

Leads to the real question - why so many of us here have been to Punta Arenas of all places?  Next thing we know we'll have a support group for all of us who went to the Galapagos.

Berny
Err yeah.  And Robinson Crusoe Island.


It is a very nice place to do a little natural tourism. But don't go if you want to prove that Earth is flat: you will end like John Davis, making a set of 15 boxes of absolute rubbish and promising a book for years to come.

I had never even heard about a FES when I was there, so I did not take a telescope or a sextant, in which case I could have shown the same observations that so many have done before. We will have to rely on the thousands upon thousands that have navigated through the nearby straights with a sextant and a map, with a sizable risk of death if you get lost. They will tell you that the maps are correct, that the stars are where they expected them to be, that the distances are the ones posted in the maps, and that there are no mysterious 100 knot currents that make you travel as fast as the FE'rs want you to believe.

Even if you do not get anthing else from the trip, you will see that all the "spotlight Sun theories" are bunk. The Sun is way too bright to be the minuscule portion of light that comes from a side of the spotlight and then disperses all around the pancake Earth after being bended in incredible ways to create an illusion.

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Re: Why doesn't the FES fund a trip to the South Pole?
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2011, 12:37:50 PM »

I have also been in Punta Arenas. If anything else, the fact that the longest daytime (in December) is almost the whole day should be a good indication that FE "theories" are bunk. The Sun was taking the path that we all expected (a very long path without ever getting very high, giving enough light to not need artificial light from before we woke up till past 9 pm at night).

Leads to the real question - why so many of us here have been to Punta Arenas of all places?  Next thing we know we'll have a support group for all of us who went to the Galapagos.

Berny
Err yeah.  And Robinson Crusoe Island.


It is a very nice place to do a little natural tourism. But don't go if you want to prove that Earth is flat: you will end like John Davis, making a set of 15 boxes of absolute rubbish and promising a book for years to come.

I had never even heard about a FES when I was there, so I did not take a telescope or a sextant, in which case I could have shown the same observations that so many have done before. We will have to rely on the thousands upon thousands that have navigated through the nearby straights with a sextant and a map, with a sizable risk of death if you get lost. They will tell you that the maps are correct, that the stars are where they expected them to be, that the distances are the ones posted in the maps, and that there are no mysterious 100 knot currents that make you travel as fast as the FE'rs want you to believe.

Even if you do not get anthing else from the trip, you will see that all the "spotlight Sun theories" are bunk. The Sun is way too bright to be the minuscule portion of light that comes from a side of the spotlight and then disperses all around the pancake Earth after being bended in incredible ways to create an illusion.

Bolded - I sailed to Punta Arenas, did not fly so I do have first had knowledge that sailing through the straights was no different than many other places.  In actual fact much less rough than what it was like rounding the Cape of Good Hope.

Berny
It was chilly though
To be fair, sometimes what FE'ers say makes so little sense that it's hard to come up with a rebuttal.
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Re: Why doesn't the FES fund a trip to the South Pole?
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2011, 09:05:22 PM »

I have also been in Punta Arenas. If anything else, the fact that the longest daytime (in December) is almost the whole day should be a good indication that FE "theories" are bunk. The Sun was taking the path that we all expected (a very long path without ever getting very high, giving enough light to not need artificial light from before we woke up till past 9 pm at night).

Leads to the real question - why so many of us here have been to Punta Arenas of all places?  Next thing we know we'll have a support group for all of us who went to the Galapagos.

Berny
Err yeah.  And Robinson Crusoe Island.


It is a very nice place to do a little natural tourism. But don't go if you want to prove that Earth is flat: you will end like John Davis, making a set of 15 boxes of absolute rubbish and promising a book for years to come.

I had never even heard about a FES when I was there, so I did not take a telescope or a sextant, in which case I could have shown the same observations that so many have done before. We will have to rely on the thousands upon thousands that have navigated through the nearby straights with a sextant and a map, with a sizable risk of death if you get lost. They will tell you that the maps are correct, that the stars are where they expected them to be, that the distances are the ones posted in the maps, and that there are no mysterious 100 knot currents that make you travel as fast as the FE'rs want you to believe.

Even if you do not get anthing else from the trip, you will see that all the "spotlight Sun theories" are bunk. The Sun is way too bright to be the minuscule portion of light that comes from a side of the spotlight and then disperses all around the pancake Earth after being bended in incredible ways to create an illusion.

Bolded - I sailed to Punta Arenas, did not fly so I do have first had knowledge that sailing through the straights was no different than many other places.  In actual fact much less rough than what it was like rounding the Cape of Good Hope.

Berny
It was chilly though

I've sailed though the Intracoastal Waterway (Amazing except for the gators) and must agree with Berny.
If we would all stop deflecting questions, maybe we could get somewhere.