Child Murderer or Atheist?

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Raist

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Re: Child Murderer or Atheist?
« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2009, 10:48:52 AM »
So let me get this straight, you belive the thing that best helps you reach your goals is logical right?

Well then you contradicted yourself, emotions do not prevent you from reaching your goals, at most they simply reevaluate your goals, or allow you to sacrifice more to reach them. Again, you can't find a standard for the term logical because it is simply a way for robot movies to make humans the good guys while we are treating another group of thinking beings like cattle. Robot movies usually are fucked up if you watch them from a neutral stance.

And then you qualified your statement, unless your goal is suicide. Why? So now anything that achieves your goals is logical unless your goal is killing yourself. What about things that make you unable to reproduce, that is genetically the same as suicide, so is getting your tubes tied illogical? Is cutting your balls off with a hatchet illogical? Did you all of a sudden realize that someone's "goals" can cover nearly everything?

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Re: Child Murderer or Atheist?
« Reply #61 on: July 05, 2009, 01:27:52 PM »
Except that I was making a distinction between universal goals and temporary goals/whims... To put it a different way, your standard priorities versus your impaired priorities.

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Re: Child Murderer or Atheist?
« Reply #62 on: July 05, 2009, 01:54:24 PM »
Except that I was making a distinction between universal goals and temporary goals/whims... To put it a different way, your standard priorities versus your impaired priorities.

So now people have universal goals? I bet next you'll claim life has a purpose.

Are you a christian now?

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Re: Child Murderer or Atheist?
« Reply #63 on: July 05, 2009, 01:59:05 PM »
So now people have universal goals?
Higher more pronounced goals that can be temporarily compromised for lower goals, yes. Survival and reproduction tend to be up there.

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I bet next you'll claim life has a purpose.

Are you a christian now?
No, but how would that make me Christian? We give purpose and meaning to live ourselves without needing a deity.