No motive, no case

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Parsifal

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Re: No motive, no case
« Reply #150 on: September 11, 2008, 08:03:14 AM »
Why? If there's never been a functioning one, how would they know the difference?

We aren't talking tourists coming to visit a facility.  We are talking about the people that designed and run the facility.  They are sure to know the signs that it is running, and running correctly.

There only needs to be a few designers who actually know what they are looking at.
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Re: No motive, no case
« Reply #151 on: September 11, 2008, 08:07:57 AM »
There only needs to be a few designers who actually know what they are looking at.

Except the people that work with that equipment or do the maintenance.  As with most of our jobs, you can fool the people that "come to visit" but you can't "pull the wool over the eyes" of someone that is familiar with the operation.

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Re: No motive, no case
« Reply #152 on: September 11, 2008, 08:10:56 AM »
Except the people that work with that equipment or do the maintenance.  As with most of our jobs, you can fool the people that "come to visit" but you can't "pull the wool over the eyes" of someone that is familiar with the operation.

I don't agree. They can build it realistically enough to fool people, while still profiting from it.
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Re: No motive, no case
« Reply #153 on: September 11, 2008, 08:47:29 AM »
I don't agree. They can build it realistically enough to fool people, while still profiting from it.

I don't think so.  These are people that have spent their entire careers working with this equipment.

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Re: No motive, no case
« Reply #154 on: September 11, 2008, 08:50:29 AM »
I don't think so.  These are people that have spent their entire careers working with this equipment.

There are people who spend their lives in churches and monasteries without realising that God doesn't exist.
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Re: No motive, no case
« Reply #155 on: September 11, 2008, 08:54:19 AM »
There are people who spend their lives in churches and monasteries without realising that God doesn't exist.

Can you prove that?  I doubt it.

But it would also be difficult for you to come in and run a fake monastery that they would find completely believable.

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Re: No motive, no case
« Reply #156 on: September 11, 2008, 09:46:01 AM »
Say the conspiracy is correct, and there are a select few at NASA who know the truth of the earth being flat, surely they would be so high up within NASAs ranks that they would already command a substantial salary which would entitle them a powerful, rich and lavish lifestyle.

If they were skimming the money to increase their own personal wealth it would be an exercise in futility, they wouldnt be able to justify spending it on anything without the proper authorities, including auditors, picking up on it.

So to come back to the OP, where is the motive?


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Re: No motive, no case
« Reply #157 on: September 11, 2008, 04:02:52 PM »
When it comes to motive, what about crazy diaper lady? She fits the profile of someone with inside information, and nothing to lose.

"Her lawyer stated that she suffered from major depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder, Asperger's syndrome, insomnia, and "brief psychotic disorder with marked stressors" at the time of the incident."

She doesn't seem very stable. Why didn't she spill the beans?
Reality becomes apparent to the patient observer. Or you can learn a thing or two if you're in a hurry.

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Re: No motive, no case
« Reply #158 on: September 11, 2008, 06:51:10 PM »
I don't think so.  These are people that have spent their entire careers working with this equipment.

There are people who spend their lives in churches and monasteries without realising that God doesn't exist.

Unreasonable comparison. People who go to church don't go there seeking experimental data. They go and speak to themselves or the pastor/priest whatever.

I work in mining. If someone built a mineral processing plant that looked the goods and had computers telling me it was working, it would be very easy to determine if it was or wasn't and if it was just a prop.
Now I can't do that with a particle collider because I'm not a physicist or an electrical engineer or a software engineer.
The guys working on these particle colliders would know.