Sailing across pacfic/atlantic

sorry if this has been asked before, I ran a search.

I was in the navy and have made trips from West coast america to East coast China/Japan across the pacific, as well as from east coast america to west coast eroupe across the Atlantic. Both trips take 1-2 weeks tops.

Now with a FE shouldn't one of them be a much longer trip? since you would have to turn before reaching the Ice wall and sail around two contintents without getting close enough to see them before reaching China (or eroupe depending on which side of america those land masses are on)   and we know Eroupe and China have to be connected becuase you can make that trip on land.

so how does FE explain this?

ok rereading the FAQ and looking at the maps I kind of see how it works.

Although it seems navigating by sun/stars/moon wouldn't work the way it does.

ok rereading the FAQ and looking at the maps I kind of see how it works.

Although it seems navigating by sun/stars/moon wouldn't work the way it does.

Oh really?  Alot of the current US Navy vessels navigating by the sun/stars/moon?

Quote from: sabrem on October 16, 2008, 06:32:05 PM

ok rereading the FAQ and looking at the maps I kind of see how it works.

Although it seems navigating by sun/stars/moon wouldn't work the way it does.

Oh really?  Alot of the current US Navy vessels navigating by the sun/stars/moon?

they still teach how to do it. And depending on how assholeish the nav officer is, he will want the QM's to do it along with GPS at least a few times. I know at least one who did.

They still taught celestial navigation to AF B/N's and Navs until recently. Both the Navy and the AF dropped celestial nav in the late 90's. I think the Navy still teaches how to use a sextant, but they don't teach how to do any real nav with it anymore. Too many damned computers to be bothered to learn how to actually work a fix.  I have it on good authority that several a/c in service have a computerized auto-plotting celestial nav for EMCON reasons.

They still taught celestial navigation to AF B/N's and Navs until recently. Both the Navy and the AF dropped celestial nav in the late 90's. I think the Navy still teaches how to use a sextant, but they don't teach how to do any real nav with it anymore. Too many damned computers to be bothered to learn how to actually work a fix.  I have it on good authority that several a/c in service have a computerized auto-plotting celestial nav for EMCON reasons.

What types?

I'm sure if you thought about which types might benefit from a long range navigation system that can't be jammed or easily disrupted, you would have a good idea.